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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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ok, here are the pictures anyway...












as you can see from the last two pictures, the stock brake hose will not work, it has a 90deg fitting. the R56 caliper has the fitting on top. other than that, works great!
 

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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great info!!!

So I need the R56 cooper S brakes/discs and brakes hoses and then it is a straight bolt-on ? ?

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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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yep. i'm just waiting for some decent pads to become available for the 2007 mini s. what's taking so long?!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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thanks for the info m8!!! :D

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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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wow this aught to set up some r53 owners with a very cheap, very solid brake upgrade. good work!
 
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Hawk makes pads that fit them now.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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FWIW, late '06 R53s had the JCW brakes standard. Mine has 'em.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 05:42 AM
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i'm holding out for ferodo DS2500's...
 
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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you should have went with the JCW 07 rotors also. They are a bolt on also if you have a JCW brake kit. Mines an 05 with the JCW brake kit and they bolted right on. The 07 JCW rotors are drilled & slotted. The new rotors cost about $200.00 for both.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by checkers
you should have went with the JCW 07 rotors also. They are a bolt on also if you have a JCW brake kit. Mines an 05 with the JCW brake kit and they bolted right on. The 07 JCW rotors are drilled & slotted. The new rotors cost about $200.00 for both.
i disagree. I think the oem aero non drilled rotor is a better choice. Drilled rotor + track temps = cracked rotor.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by checkers
you should have went with the JCW 07 rotors also.
i'm planning on tracking this car occasionally, so no drilled rotors for me. i'm sure powerslot will come out with rotors for the R56, which is what i would like to get.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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I'll let you know if they crack. I track mine a few time a year. I feel they stop a little quicker. But that's just me.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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WOW! Nice bonus for you on that one!

I wonder how that would play into Stock autocross classing?

Originally Posted by BSUCardinalfan
FWIW, late '06 R53s had the JCW brakes standard. Mine has 'em.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:20 AM
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Slightly OT. Can I assume that the late 2006/07/08 rear pads are the same as 2002/05??? I have an extra set of rear Carbotech #10's that I hope will fit on a new 2008. I have used the Ferodo DS2500's. Like the Carbotech better. Better initial grip and better fade resistance on a track with not much time for cool down between turns.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 03:32 AM
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Got mine a while back, painted and they are sitting in the closet awaiting for the S/S lines and warmer weather.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pmello
I have used the Ferodo DS2500's. Like the Carbotech better. Better initial grip and better fade resistance on a track with not much time for cool down between turns.
i'm planning on running these pads on the street so i am willing to sacrifice some performance. i picked the ds2500 because of the high coefficient of friction that stays stable over a large temperature range. what carbotech compound are you comparing the ds2500 to and can you run it on the street?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fishbulb
WOW! Nice bonus for you on that one!

I wonder how that would play into Stock autocross classing?
since it came from the factory, it is perfectly legal. goes along the same lines as the LSD and non-LSD cars are in the same class.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by BSUCardinalfan
since it came from the factory, it is perfectly legal. goes along the same lines as the LSD and non-LSD cars are in the same class.

I should have finished that thought - I think it was late (or early!)

is backdating allowed? Does that open the door to anyone with a 2006 to add the same brakes? What about other years?

Strictly academic here, I already have a pulley - so it doesn't matter to me. I am just curious what would happen, esp. at a national level event.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 02:45 AM
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Sonichris:
Carbotech 10's front and rear. I ran them through the winter and saw a few 10deg days. Good initial bite even at that temp. They do have some noise (not squeal) at light pressure and slow speeds (less than 5 mph). They wear well both on the street and track. There is no accelerated wear on pads or disks on the street when driven slowly.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fishbulb
I should have finished that thought - I think it was late (or early!)

is backdating allowed? Does that open the door to anyone with a 2006 to add the same brakes? What about other years?

Strictly academic here, I already have a pulley - so it doesn't matter to me. I am just curious what would happen, esp. at a national level event.
I'm pretty sure you can't update/backdate in stock. All of the other classes (ST, SP, etc) allow update/backdate.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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I've got a set of R56 front brakes for sale guys!

More info here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=123685
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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PM Sent omgzilla, AUS member here

Happy Christmas for those in the States.

Question for everyone else...

Has anyone driven and confirmed that the lug bolt size on the r53 does not need to be changed to suit the larger r56?

I am interested in the upgrade, but want to be sure that i'll work!

Cheers

Roland
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Another question...

If i got the r56 calipers... and if i wanted to upgrade the rotors, couldn't i just get gen1 spec JCW rotors? then there wouldn't be any lug size issue? Would that work?
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by auscoops
PM Sent omgzilla, AUS member here

Happy Christmas for those in the States.

Question for everyone else...

Has anyone driven and confirmed that the lug bolt size on the r53 does not need to be changed to suit the larger r56?

I am interested in the upgrade, but want to be sure that i'll work!

Cheers

Roland
Originally Posted by auscoops
Another question...

If i got the r56 calipers... and if i wanted to upgrade the rotors, couldn't i just get gen1 spec JCW rotors? then there wouldn't be any lug size issue? Would that work?
the holes in the R56 rotors are bigger, so the lugs will fit no problem. the pictures above are my R53 with stock lugs and R56 rotors.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sonichris
the holes in the R56 rotors are bigger, so the lugs will fit no problem. the pictures above are my R53 with stock lugs and R56 rotors.
So that being said, are there no reliability issues to be had with having a rotor that has bigger holes than the lug? So, this straight swap from r53>r56 rotors/calipers is as simple as swapping it out?

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