R60 I want a freaking back-up camera!
#26
I don't need one; you don't need one. Maybe some folks kind of do.
#27
If you have kids, you appreciate having the backup camera. The reason we have them is because too many people were accidentally running over their own kids in the driveway with tragic results. Even in our house we've run over kids bikes twice because the old SUVs didnt have cameras. I want a camera!
#28
I agree as well …Especially coming from past vehicles..Audi's & Infinity's..almost standard. So once you get use to it…you sure do miss it!
Has nothing to do with being lazy…more with safety. I paid in low 40's with taxes & fees. Got everything but alarm & summer wheel package…bit would of spent a bit more if a camera were available…could not of been that much more…screen, video it's all there except for the little bullet camera.
Especially knowing all the issues with the cradle…would of happily spent in on a rear view camera & eliminated the armrest.
Has nothing to do with being lazy…more with safety. I paid in low 40's with taxes & fees. Got everything but alarm & summer wheel package…bit would of spent a bit more if a camera were available…could not of been that much more…screen, video it's all there except for the little bullet camera.
Especially knowing all the issues with the cradle…would of happily spent in on a rear view camera & eliminated the armrest.
#30
I think anyone that has regularly used a good rear backup camera in conjunction with parking sensers would not question the idea of including one as an option in a a vehicle of the calibre of a Countryman. I also don't see them making claims that they can back up just as well with their mirrors only. My Audi Q7 has an excellent rear backup camera system. With that car, I typically back up listening to the audible signal, but still peek at the camera when I start out. It gives confidence that a small child or shopping cart is not out of view of my mirrors behind my rear bumper. Yes, I know the parking sensers should pick this up, but having driven systems with and without a camera, it is just not the same with an audible-only parking assist system.
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#34
I'm not sure what about this topic brings out the unkind, judgmental streak in some people. A backup camera is a fun little doodad. My car has like fifty fun little doodads, so why would I judge somebody for liking one that I don't need?
Heck, the ambient lighting has no practical application. The anthracite headliner is $250 and is functionally no different than the standard one. The cockpit trip is $250 and adds no functionality at all. Nobody's judging those (and they shouldn't).
Having a MINI is about being able to spend your money on the features that make you happy. For me, that's a manual without parking assist (and with the grey headliner and piano black trim). But if somebody's having fun in an automatic, why not let them have fun? And if somebody thinks a backup camera might be more safe, comfortable, or convenient, so what? What's the point in comments that belittle other people's choices in options and doodads?
Heck, the ambient lighting has no practical application. The anthracite headliner is $250 and is functionally no different than the standard one. The cockpit trip is $250 and adds no functionality at all. Nobody's judging those (and they shouldn't).
Having a MINI is about being able to spend your money on the features that make you happy. For me, that's a manual without parking assist (and with the grey headliner and piano black trim). But if somebody's having fun in an automatic, why not let them have fun? And if somebody thinks a backup camera might be more safe, comfortable, or convenient, so what? What's the point in comments that belittle other people's choices in options and doodads?
#35
LOL, backing into a garage, a camera might come in even more handy, particularly if you have kids who leave bikes and trikes all over the place.
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#36
Get the park distance control in conjunction with the MINI Connected (or just nav) screen. Then the backup system displays a cool map showing you where things are behind you - this is showing the edge of my garage door just behind and to the left )it's actually being a bit conservative as in real life from this position I could back straight out).
With that in place, I feel very little need for a camera and in fact the current display is easier to read quickly and judge distance than a camera image.
With that in place, I feel very little need for a camera and in fact the current display is easier to read quickly and judge distance than a camera image.
#37
Get the park distance control in conjunction with the MINI Connected (or just nav) screen. Then the backup system displays a cool map showing you where things are behind you - this is showing the edge of my garage door just behind and to the left )it's actually being a bit conservative as in real life from this position I could back straight out).
With that in place, I feel very little need for a camera and in fact the current display is easier to read quickly and judge distance than a camera image.
With that in place, I feel very little need for a camera and in fact the current display is easier to read quickly and judge distance than a camera image.
#38
http://www.cartronics.com/Mini.html
Saw this back up camera set up for mini. but dont know if this would work on 2011 and up countryman.
Would be a nice upgrade
Saw this back up camera set up for mini. but dont know if this would work on 2011 and up countryman.
Would be a nice upgrade
#39
really coool stuff
thanks alot,
you just found me more ways to spend my money Ianit got
you just found me more ways to spend my money Ianit got
http://www.cartronics.com/Mini.html
Saw this back up camera set up for mini. but dont know if this would work on 2011 and up countryman.
Would be a nice upgrade
Saw this back up camera set up for mini. but dont know if this would work on 2011 and up countryman.
Would be a nice upgrade
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#42
What is the issue you are having with your clutch? I'm considering starting a thread on the Countryman clutch issues we have been having and am curious what your experience has been. I believe there is an endemic problem with the clutch, at least on early production Countryman.
#44
Don't forget that $42K doesn't get you power seats, either. My Routan even has power seats (as well as a back-up camera), and it was only $28K.
The MINI isn't exactly a luxury car. You're paying a premium for the name and reputation (it delivers), which should pay back in the form of higher resale and enjoyment. Personally, I eschewed the park assist option, which was the only option I left off other than leather seats and automatic transmission. I ended up around $35K.
The MINI isn't exactly a luxury car. You're paying a premium for the name and reputation (it delivers), which should pay back in the form of higher resale and enjoyment. Personally, I eschewed the park assist option, which was the only option I left off other than leather seats and automatic transmission. I ended up around $35K.
#45
I actually think park assist and the mini connected system is better than a backup camera.
A backup camera suffers from a visual lack of perspective, so you can't really tell how far away objects are, whereas the mini connected system shows the actual distance to objects from an overhead perspective.
The whole point of the system is to avoid backing up over a child or animal. For that purpose the audible alarm works best, because as soon as you hear that alarm, you stop. Everything else is just fluff.
A backup camera suffers from a visual lack of perspective, so you can't really tell how far away objects are, whereas the mini connected system shows the actual distance to objects from an overhead perspective.
The whole point of the system is to avoid backing up over a child or animal. For that purpose the audible alarm works best, because as soon as you hear that alarm, you stop. Everything else is just fluff.
#46
Wow pretty judgmental there. Based on not knowing you whatsoever except for this single post, I can also pass blind judgement: I bet you're one of those people that puts truck-nutz on your Dodge truck. I mean you are in Texas and all...
#47
And, have you noticed that the audible alarm is in stereo from the rear speakers? It sounds from the right speaker if the object sensed is on the right side of the car and vice versa. May be overkill in combination with the video display but cool, none the less.
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I agree with the Op its not that its a strong need for the camera its just that these are expensive cars and it wouldnt change the bottom line to throw in a back up camera. I have owned many BMW's and fyi for the op I have a 2012 5 series and it ha no back up camera sticker price 58k. LOL Bmw focuses more on the engine and ride than they do interiors. OHH . since im complaining $2000 extra for leather seats in a $30 K ++ car is also crazy. But I still bought one lol