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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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I'll await your tests. The 6UL looks the business, and worth the wait. I have 215/40/17's right now, so maybe if there's not much difference, I can live with it.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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225/45 =22.9 inch OD
225/50 = 23.9 inch OD

225's are complicated above 23.3 inches - a search will yeild much discussion of these fitments.

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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Will these wheels work with the new 14mm lug bolts?

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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
Will these wheels work with the new 14mm lug bolts?
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They're designed for 12mm studs. The 14mm would be too fat.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 949Racing
They're designed for 12mm studs. The 14mm would be too fat.
Oh well, for that price, I could just have them drilled out and it would still be a bargain.

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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
Oh well, for that price, I could just have them drilled out and it would still be a bargain.
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I wouldn't reccommend strongly against that, no warranty if you do.
Is the 14mm stud an option or did they change in some year?
 
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 949Racing
I wouldn't reccommend strongly against that, no warranty if you do.
Is the 14mm stud an option or did they change in some year?
The later 2006 MINIs and all of the 2007+ models have 14mm X 1.25 wheel bolts. It's really making it a pain to pick wheels, since no one lists bolt-hole diameter in their specs.

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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What finish looks good to owners?

Nickel (costs more) has a slight gun metal like finish
Silver - Brighest
Black with machined lip- doesn't show as much dirt

Are they all the same 12.8 pounds weight?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
The later 2006 MINIs and all of the 2007+ models have 14mm X 1.25 wheel bolts. It's really making it a pain to pick wheels, since no one lists bolt-hole diameter in their specs.
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I did a little research into this and the information I have is that no change to the lugbolt diameter was made. Did you measure your lugbolts?

The +36 Mini version is 13.1lbs
 

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 949Racing
I did a little research into this and the information I have is that no change to the lugbolt diameter was made. Did you measure your lugbolts?

The +36 Mini version is 13.1lbs
The diameter change is real enough. I have two 2006 'S' cabrios, one with 12mm bolts and one with 14mm bolts. The stock MINI wheels will fit either size, because the bolt holes are 16mm. I measured my 14mm bolts, and they actually measure about 13.8 mm across.

Another owner in our local MINI group had to have a set of SSR Comps drilled out to get them to fit on his new car.

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by minihune
What finish looks good to owners?

Nickel (costs more) has a slight gun metal like finish
Silver - Brighest
Black with machined lip- doesn't show as much dirt

Are they all the same 12.8 pounds weight?
Originally Posted by 949Racing
The +36 Mini version is 13.1lbs
So do you mean all finishes (Nickel, Silver, and Black) for the +36 MINI version are 13.1 pounds?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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So do you mean all finishes (Nickel, Silver, and Black) for the +36 MINI version are 13.1 pounds?
Yes. The +40 version that doesn't fit the rear of the Minis is 12.8.

re: lugbolt diameter change

Cars produced after 7/12/2006 do indeed use a 14x1.5 lugbolt
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 949Racing
Yes. The +40 version that doesn't fit the rear of the Minis is 12.8.

re: lugbolt diameter change

Cars produced after 7/12/2006 do indeed use a 14x1.5 lugbolt
Life would be easier if they were in fact 14mm X 1.5, since that's a more common size. The new MINI lugbolts are 14mm X 1.25 (not that the thread pitch matters when it comes to picking wheels).

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by riquiscott
Life would be easier if they were in fact 14mm X 1.5, since that's a more common size. The new MINI lugbolts are 14mm X 1.25 (not that the thread pitch matters when it comes to picking wheels).

Scott

Scott;
Sean, aka MPETUOUS on HRMINI, had his SSRs drilled out and has been very happy with them.
They're his daily wheels so if there was an issue he would know by now.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by obehave
Scott;
Sean, aka MPETUOUS on HRMINI, had his SSRs drilled out and has been very happy with them.
They're his daily wheels so if there was an issue he would know by now.
Yep, he was the one I was referring to that had his wheels drilled. I'm comfortable enough with the drilled wheels that I'm considering buying his when he moves up to SM.

Scott
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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You say you like to do hard to find wheel sizes....any chance of a 16x8? They are nearly impossible to find from high quality companies without going custom. Just out of curiosity.....i think what you guys are offering is GREAT
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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Hoosier AS 03,4,5,6 - 225/45-15 - auto-x fitment

Originally Posted by 949Racing
I haven't had a set of RS304's in my shop for over a year but remember they were significantly wider than the RA-1's I usually run. The 245/40 Avon has a 9.4" tread and wasn't even close to fitting the Mini no matter what the offset. Time will tell.
For auto-x, using negative camber of approx. 2.1-2.4 in front, and 1.3-1.5 in rear, the tires rubbed ever so slightly on the inside. This is with two different MCS I've owned since 2003.

Wheels were/are 15 x 7 Kosei K1-TS, with a 38 mm offset.

I added the 3mm spacers from TCE. Never had a rubbing issue - of any kind - since. Did need to convert to longer studs for peace of mind.

Since the 225/45-15 Hoosiers clear comfortably with the Koseis at 35mm total ET, they should clear with the 949s as well, once the correct offset is determined. I'd think it would have to be further out though, more on the order of 25mm (using the appropriate spacer).

But that's only a guess...
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 949Racing
Yes. The +40 version that doesn't fit the rear of the Minis is 12.8.

re: lugbolt diameter change

Cars produced after 7/12/2006 do indeed use a 14x1.5 lugbolt

Very pleased to see you guys had already updated your web page to reflect this last night.
I ordered a set BTW.

Car isn't lowered and I can only get a mac of -1.4 camber in the front since my OEM spring perches contact the strut tower on the drivers side.

Guess I'll find out about tire clearances later
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by obehave
Car isn't lowered and I can only get a mac of -1.4 camber in the front since my OEM spring perches contact the strut tower on the drivers side.
I'm having this issue on my 06, but not the 03. Driver's side perch doesn't appear to be mounted symmetrically with the passenger side.

My car is lowered. But to get -2.4 on the driver's side, I have to move the Konis so far over that I can't adjust them once the auto-x camber is set. I end up having to adjust for rotation at the auto-x with tire pressure only.

Works sorta, but negates the adjustbility of the Koni yellows.

I suppose the spring perch cannot be relocated...
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 07:17 AM
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Are these going to need centering rings, or is the hub bore 56.1mm ?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by inimmini
Are these going to need centering rings, or is the hub bore 56.1mm ?
Supposedly the hubcentric rings aren't needed.

Guess we'll know for sure fairly soon whether or not this is true.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 08:56 AM
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Are these going to need centering rings, or is the hub bore 56.1mm ?
Hub bore on the 15x8 rims is 59.1mm
They don't need a centering ring since the MINI hub bore is 56.1mm.

The difference is slight and it's been designed to work as is.

Reason for 59.1mm hub bore is to fit a range of autos:
(Mazda 54.1, Honda/Toyota 56.1, Mini 56.1, BMW 57.1, Nissan 59.1)
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by minihune
Hub bore on the 15x8 rims is 59.1mm
They don't need a centering ring since the MINI hub bore is 56.1mm.

The difference is slight and it's been designed to work as is.

Reason for 59.1mm hub bore is to fit a range of autos:
(Mazda 54.1, Honda/Toyota 56.1, Mini 56.1, BMW 57.1, Nissan 59.1)
most VW also (57.1)

Minihune....since this came up. I assume this means i could safely run (street AND autocross) a wheel that has a hub bore of 57.1 right?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
most VW also (57.1)

Minihune....since this came up. I assume this means i could safely run (street AND autocross) a wheel that has a hub bore of 57.1 right?
Yes, you can run these rims for autocross, track or street use with no centering rings.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
You say you like to do hard to find wheel sizes....any chance of a 16x8? They are nearly impossible to find from high quality companies without going custom. Just out of curiosity.....i think what you guys are offering is GREAT
Brian Goodwin has 16x8 Enkei RP-F1s. See: http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda.../21-1051c.html
 
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