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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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This is my first post, so I apologize if this has been answered.

Did a search and only got the "carry a compressor and fix-a-flat" answer.

I have a new S and want to rplace the 16" Dunlops with 205/50/16 P Zero Nero's from Tire Rack. What's the objectin to going to a junkyard and grabbing a small Civic spare doughnut? Why is the compressor and the possible mess from Fix-a-flat superior to a small doughnut spare that you could strap in the boot?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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Check wheel fitment, for particularly supension clearances. This is the area we had to focus on when making steels for the Mini. Also beware of load capacties, Civis tend to run smaller tires, with less ability to bear load. You requirment is 1170 lbs a tire, most civics use about 1000 lbs a tire.

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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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>>Check wheel fitment, for particularly supension clearances. This is the area we had to focus on when making steels for the Mini. Also beware of load capacties, Civis tend to run smaller tires, with less ability to bear load. You requirment is 1170 lbs a tire, most civics use about 1000 lbs a tire.
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Dan,

Do you have steel spare wheels (the little guys) that'll fit the MinI? And the doughnut spares? Or should I go the fix-a-flat routin on the Pirellis?

Re the Civic wheels, the load requirement shouldn't be too large, as it'd be a "limp-home" application.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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I do not have mini spare wheels. I only have fullsize, I can get mini spare tires, but not wheels. Might be worthy of a civic test fit

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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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Would a civic spare fit behind the seats? Does it have the same bolt pattern? If so, its just what I need to replace the runflats. I can live with it not having quite enough load or even it being slightly too small - it's just for emergencies.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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Bolt patterns are the same , I recomed a testfit. Makesure that the mini spare fully inflated can take 1170 lbs each. We dont want emergencies to become bigger emergencies.

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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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Why does it need to handle 1170lbs? A car with driver is going to put 750lbs on each wheel so handling 1000lbs leaves a decent margin.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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if you index the OE tire size at the OE pressure, you derive 1170 lbs a tire.
1170 lbs S car
1094 NON S car

I do not claim to know more tha Mini engineers, as far a what they expect the car to be set up to handle.

Thats why I adhere so closley to OE tollerances.

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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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>>Why does it need to handle 1170lbs? A car with driver is going to put 750lbs on each wheel so handling 1000lbs leaves a decent margin.

... that's Static forces .... when the car is at rest; When cornering, look at one side of the car vs. the other ...
... and who wants to stay at rest for long??

 
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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>>What's the objectin to going to a junkyard and grabbing a small Civic spare doughnut? Why is the compressor and the possible mess from Fix-a-flat superior to a small doughnut spare that you could strap in the boot?
Why not just buy the Cooper spare tire from the dealer and stick it behind the seats?

I was a bit surprised about your choice of Neros as i have been led to believe that they are for heavy high performance cars - neither of which the MINI is :smile:
 
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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>>>>What's the objection to going to a junkyard and grabbing a small Civic spare doughnut? Why is the compressor and the possible mess from Fix-a-flat superior to a small doughnut spare that you could strap in the boot?
>>Why not just buy the Cooper spare tire from the dealer and stick it behind the seats?

>>I was a bit surprised about your choice of Neros as i have been led to believe that they are for heavy high performance cars - neither of which the MINI is :smile:

It's not writ in stone (although the Dunlop runflats may be made of it). But the P Zero Nero performance appeared to be almost unmatched. And the size the S needs (205/50 - or 45/16) isn't exactly for heavier cars.

I've also considered Yoko EVS 100 and Toyo T1. What's your suggestion?
 
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