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Track pads, something with less torque than DTC-60

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Track pads, something with less torque than DTC-60

I'm running dtc 60 now on my R53 JCW, but I would like to go to a little less torque and longer pad life. Anyone have suggestions? Looking for a little more pressure range before I hit abs, or a little less initial bite
 
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I've been running DTC60's front and rear for many years and love them. I rarely hit ABS and get great tactile feel, easy, smooth release while trail-braking, etc.; excellent pad and rotor life.
 
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You might have more tire, I'm running hankook r-s3 and now r-s4's

are you on stock calipers ?
 
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Hawk compound guide from ECS tuning sight.





DTC-30 would be step in right direction. You do lose high temp performance though.
 
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Just running stock MCS calipers (w/ducts), cheap CENTRIC rotors, 215/45x17 (NITTO NT-01 for dry and a set of Bridgestone RE71R's for rains) on 7x17, ATE Typ 200, SS lines. Have been doing track duty for over 40 years so I've learned how to "get on 'em and get off 'em" as quickly as possible. Fortunately, have never lost my brakes in the MINI. I tried HT-10's, then switched to DTC-60 when they came out w/them.
 
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with re71 I did not abs too bad, with the rs-3 & rs-4 they do not have the same grip, so there is very little peddle pressure difference from hard braking and abs

I emailed hawk, unless they know something that graph does not show I'm switching to glock 10's
 
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nc trackrat do you have any VIR data? I would love to compare to someone else

I use a 25hz data logger, it'll export to circuit tools via harry's laptimer
 
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Hawk replied they make nothing between the hp+ and the dtc60. I'm gonna try some g-lock 10's
 
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nc trackrat do you have any VIR data? I would love to compare to someone else

I use a 25hz data logger, it'll export to circuit tools via harry's laptimer

Sorry, I'm so "old school", I can barely use a smart phone. My "data logger"
is the seat of my pants (known as a "butt dyno").
 
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well fast does feel right, after it's done feeling scary as ****
 
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Keep in mind that, if you change to a different pad compound, you really should change rotors at the same time because your old rotors have been impregnated with the old pad material. However, if there's enough rotor thickness left, you could take a light pass on them or, while not as effective, burnish with rough emery paper. BTW, CARBOTECH makes excellent track pads with a variety of compounds.
 
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rotors are so cheap with this car I just change them out, hit them with a flapper wheel and use them on my autocross car

I'm gonna go with g-lock they guys that designed carbotech are now g-lock
 
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I'll chime in about Carbotech XP-10's. I haven't personally had the DTC-60's on my car yet, but, I hear they're very comparable. The XP-10's apparently have a little less initial bite and more modulation in comparison. I was debating between the two awhile back and decided to give the Carbotechs a go. I've done a few track weekends (I don't AX) on them now and I'm really liking them. I have MCS calipers w/ ducts, SS lines and run plain high carbon Centric rotors too. If you go with the G-loc's, please post your thoughts. I didn't realize that about them designing Carbotech's. I'd love to hear how they do.
 
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I will I have the same setup, R53 JCW calipers with ducts ss lines, centric "premium" rotors. I only ax this car a couple times a year to test changes, it's primary mission is trackdays.

There was some kinda split with engineers leaving to form g-lock
 




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