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Enkei 92 15's Do they Fit on R53's?

has anyone ran these Enkei 92 15x8 et25 4x100 hub bore 72.6 or 15x7 et38

do they fit on an r53?

 
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What suspension do you have? Any plans to lower it?

Do you have JCW brakes in front or standard MCS brakes? The JCW brakes are larger and don't always fit over 15" wheels.

What tires do you plan to use?

Compared to OEM

15x8 et25 should fit OK, wheel sticks out about 28mm or 1.1" farther.
205/50-15 or 205/55-15 are the standard tires used for 15" rims but usually are best fitted with rims only up to 7.5". 225/50-15 is workable but is taller than OEM tire diameter at 24.9" which may risk rubbing if you lower your suspension. If you have adjustable coilovers then you can lower just enough to clear the tires.

15x7 et 38 fits fine and leaves more room. It sticks out about 15mm or 0.6" more than OEM. It's likely that the rim will be about 2+ lbs lighter and fit 205mm wide tires better.
 
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thanks for the serious answer and not a smart a** answer... But anyways i have standard MCS breaks sitting on koni yellow adj struts. I do plan on lowering, will this be a problem? If i get a lower offset, for example et25 will i not be able to lower my suspension?

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will an offset like 25 have a bigger lip size than an offset of 35? I like the bigger lip look, so i am hoping these enkei 92 15x8 et25 4x100 hub bore 72.6 will fit...
 
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Originally Posted by atraain
thanks for the serious answer and not a smart a** answer... But anyways i have standard MCS breaks sitting on koni yellow adj struts. I do plan on lowering, will this be a problem? If i get a lower offset, for example et25 will i not be able to lower my suspension?

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will an offset like 25 have a bigger lip size than an offset of 35? I like the bigger lip look, so i am hoping these enkei 92 15x8 et25 4x100 hub bore 72.6 will fit...
Yes, et25 moves the wheel farther outward so the lip may be deeper.

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A lowered suspension gives you less room for clearance on a taller or wider than OEM tire.

A wide rim with an aggressive offset will stick out much farther than OEM so when you put a wide tire on that rim and you lower your suspension you risk rubbing the top outer edge of the tire against the inner upper plastic fender arch.

You can increase clearance in the rear by:
-Using a more narrow tire than would normally fit a wider rim- this is called tire stretching. The tire edge tucks under the fender even though the wide wheel sticks out.
-Making rear camber more negative, not hard to do using stock MINI parts or by adding adjustable lower control arms. Keep the toe setting to 1/8" toe in for the rear and even with lots of negative rear camber you will be OK on tire wear and for most street driving. For performance driving excessive rear negative camber can make understeer worse.
- Using a tire size that is smaller than OEM in tire diameter so that you can adjust ride height enough for just enough clearance, this is best done with ride height adjustable coilovers. If you are only adding lowering springs then you can control how much drop you get.

What are you using the tires for? Street use only? Are your roads smooth or full of potholes. If you have poor roads you don't want to make the sidewalls of the tires too low or ride quality will suffer.
 
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im just looking for a clean look, i like the et25 with a bigger lip, now i just have to order one wheel to see if they will fit, and then order the other three if they do, thanks...i still want to see these on a MCS if anyone has a pic it would be amazing to see what the car will look like

My road quality is average....pot hole here and there...so i want a tire with a bigger lip?
 
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Originally Posted by atraain
im just looking for a clean look, i like the et25 with a bigger lip, now i just have to order one wheel to see if they will fit, and then order the other three if they do, thanks...i still want to see these on a MCS if anyone has a pic it would be amazing to see what the car will look like

My road quality is average....pot hole here and there...so i want a tire with a bigger lip?
Tires don't have lips, rims do. When using a rim with a larger lip it refers to the distance from the outer rim edge to the start of the spoke area that leads to the hub.

Using a 15x8" rim requires usually a wider than stock tire, from 225m or wider is possible but the wider the tire the less clearance you have and more risk of rubbing especially under load or over uneven surfaces.

When the road has potholes you want tires that have a taller sidewall like 55 or 60 series not 45 series which is very short and stiff, it rides very firmly over bumps and is too jarring for some owners.



An example of a Konig Flatout 15x8" wheel with et25 and 225/50-15 tires on a lowered suspension (1.5"). Front camber -3.0 degrees using adjustable front camber plates and rear camber -1.5 degrees.
 
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[QUOTE838]Tires don't have lips, rims do. When using a rim with a larger lip it refers to the distance from the outer rim edge to the start of the spoke area that leads to the hub.

Using a 15x8" rim requires usually a wider than stock tire, from 225m or wider is possible but the wider the tire the less clearance you have and more risk of rubbing especially under load or over uneven surfaces.

When the road has potholes you want tires that have a taller sidewall like 55 or 60 series not 45 series which is very short and stiff, it rides very firmly over bumps and is too jarring for some owners.



An example of a Konig Flatout 15x8" wheel with et25 and 225/50-15 tires on a lowered suspension (1.5"). Front camber -3.0 degrees using adjustable front camber plates and rear camber -1.5 degrees.[/QUOTE]

Hey Thanks For The Pictures, I Wasn't Sure If 15'S Would Fit An R53 , Are You Running Springs Or Coil Overs To Lower YouR Suspension? So You Think ThE Enkei92 Will Fit?
 
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Assuming you decide on the 15x8" rim.

You don't want a tire that is more than OEM tire diameter or about 24.3".

Options include-

195/60-15 this will fit but is a narrow tire on a wide rim, will have a stretched look, will also give a little more clearance against rubbing. A good example is Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Ultra High Performance All Season tire, $91 each, 400 treadwear.
205/50-15 will fit up to 7.5" rims so an 8" rim is fine, tire diameter is small at 23.1" but again will give more clearance, would increase wheel gap with stock suspension.
Example tire: BF Goodrich g-Force Super Sport A/S Ultra High performance All Season tire, $102 each 400 treadwear.
225/50-15 fits rims 6-8" wide, tire diameter is good at 23.9", example tire: Kumho ecsta AST High Performance All Season tire, $68 each, 400 treadwear and Falken Ziex ZE-912 All Season tire, 360 treadwear.
 
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Originally Posted by atraain

Hey Thanks For The Pictures, I Wasn't Sure If 15'S Would Fit An R53 , Are You Running Springs Or Coil Overs To Lower YouR Suspension? So You Think ThE Enkei92 Will Fit?
R53 came with either 16" or 17" wheels OEM but will fit 15" to 18" MINI wheels as well. Problem was with the large JCW front brake calipers which did not allow for any OEM 15" wheels.

The pictures are of a sample MINI using 15x8 et25 wheels not my own MINI.

I have a 2003 R53 with Bilstein PSS9 coilovers and have run wheels from 15" to 17" in widths from 5.5" to 8" wide and many tire sizes.

The Enkei 92 in 15x8" will fit if you plan accordingly. The more you can adjust the suspension the better to allow for clearance. Full ride height adjustable coilovers would be better than just lowering springs, you can fine tune your drop to get the clearance you need. You may also need adjustable front camber plates to increase front negative camber which is the tilt inward of the front tire so it doesn't rub against the fender arch.
 
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I will be purchasing the Enkei92's soon and I will post pics soon
 
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Pics!!!!!!
 
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Yes, et25 ..... so the lip may be deeper.
15x7 ET38 - 42mm lip
15x8 et25 - 70mm lip
 
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Originally Posted by atraain
I will be purchasing the Enkei92's soon and I will post pics soon
Did you have buy and install these? Are you lowered?

I just installed coilovers, but I haven't adjusted the height yet so my car is only slightly lower than stock right now. When I attempted to mount my Enkei92's the rears fit perfectly but the fronts wouldn't even spin because the lower ball joint is hitting the inside of the rim. Did you have this issue? Any ideas on how to fix it? I would probably need a decent size spacer if we measured correctly, but I don't want my wheels to stick out so far that they look dumb, or like a truck.

Any suggestions would be very helpful!
 
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Originally Posted by minihune



An example of a Konig Flatout 15x8" wheel with et25 and 225/50-15 tires on a lowered suspension (1.5"). Front camber -3.0 degrees using adjustable front camber plates and rear camber -1.5 degrees.
This MINI looks to have R56 / R53 JCW front calipers. So it looks like they clear the calipers
 
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