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pfunk Mar 26, 2006 10:30 AM

UFS on Webb's Mule!
 
Hello from Vegas!!

Many people already know that Randy won the race at the Speedway yesterday. He tested the Under Floor Spoiler for me. I wanted to make sure I wasn't dreaming about the downforce that these unassuming small wings create.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...m/P1000262.jpg

He set up to the "aggressive" angle since it wasn't a fast track.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...m/P1000263.jpg

No Contest!
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...m/P1000268.jpg

After winning the race.


Everybody else was understeering. I wasn't. They do work!
There were several others with the UFS on their cars and told me how much stickier the car feels. It was great to finally meet you guys!!

I have few more sets if anyone wants them. Please email me at minijdm@mac.com

MINIotaple Mar 26, 2006 12:19 PM

Finally. At least some people will listen now that Randy has spoken. :lol:

onasled Mar 26, 2006 12:52 PM

these would not be legal in most every class of racing that I know about. Not sure what the rules are in whatever Randy was racing in.

It's usually not allowed to have any aero mods under the car between the front and rear axels.

pfunk Mar 27, 2006 09:24 AM

This was just a "tuner challenge" type race. There were cars that had different degrees of mods running all together..:lol: I just wanted to let you know that Randy thinks they work.:thumbsup:

RandyBMC Mar 27, 2006 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by onasled
these would not be legal in most every class of racing that I know about. Not sure what the rules are in whatever Randy was racing in.

It's usually not allowed to have any aero mods under the car between the front and rear axels.

The North American MINI Cooper Challenge. They are legal there, and most NASA events that require a weight and dyno sheet to determine the class you are running. The are probably legal in a few other series as well - SCCA ITE for instance.

I am going to do some more testing at Pueblo as well, but it is certainly a testament that EVERYONE was understeering and I could actually make the car loose.

Hope that helps!
Randy

cooper99 Mar 27, 2006 09:49 AM

I know this is off topic, but what tires was Randy using for the race?

kyriian Mar 27, 2006 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by cooper99
I know this is off topic, but what tires was Randy using for the race?

they are toyo ra1s i believe, the tread pattern only could mean either ra1, or a much longer shot of victorracers

SpiderX Mar 27, 2006 12:09 PM

very cool....I have been interested in these but wanted some more confirmation

RandyBMC Mar 27, 2006 12:17 PM

Toyo RA1 in a 235/40-17 (and they don't just fit right on without some mods) :wink: .

Randy

onasled Mar 27, 2006 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by RandyBMC
The North American MINI Cooper Challenge. They are legal there, and most NASA events that require a weight and dyno sheet to determine the class you are running. The are probably legal in a few other series as well - SCCA ITE for instance.
Hope that helps!
Randy

The three classes you mention are really not classes in the sense. They are more open to cars that actually don't fit anywhere else. Fact is that the only place in SCCA for a Mini S with even the smallest of mods is ITE, and there you will be racing 600hp twin turbo 944s. :sad:
So yes, there may be classes that underbody aero is legal, but none that the Mini competitively fits into.

m332is Mar 28, 2006 07:40 AM

You can get 600 HP Porsches and Vettes, but most of the time, my 325i JP car would be in the top few cars and my car was not prepared to the limit. I had M3 cams, but basically a stock e36 325i motor. I even won ITE in the 3 hour enduro at the Glen. I think a well prepared MSC can do well in ITE assuming you can get the power to the ground.

pfunk Apr 6, 2006 11:38 PM

Hey Randy,

Sorry you couldn't finsh the race! Any feedback on the UFS?

SpiderX Apr 7, 2006 05:12 AM

how much $ and do you have any in stock...pm me please

RED FURY Apr 7, 2006 07:12 AM

I have one for sale ...New, never even opened the box

Phil


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