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TVPostSound 02-08-2018 04:23 PM

H&R Sway Bar Kit
 
Just arrived, ordered 4 days ago from Germany!!! Through Tunershop.com
Kit # 33803-2
27mm Solid front bar, 2 way adjustable
25mm Solid rear bar, 2 way adjustable.


Rear sway bar installed by me, but I had the dealer install the front one!!!



Heres a shout out to Mini of Valencia!!! No attitude about modding.
They gave me way, way better price than any indie shop.
They are open to doing more of these, there were absolutely no hiccups during install, except for the tech telling me that
these end links won't last long!!!

I knew that!! Moog End Links on the way:
http://www.fme-cat.com/overlays/part-detail.aspx?brandId=MC&pNum=K750807&partType=Stabi lizer%20Bar%20Link

Handling felt so much better, will run it harder this weekend, after, I install the new links!!

Springs next week.




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Moog stabilizer links:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...6baf94026d.jpg

Wheel gap is gone!!

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TVPostSound 02-08-2018 06:58 PM

Yup
Got H&R springs too!!

aubcar 02-08-2018 09:21 PM

Can't wait to see these on

Mini_Vinnie 02-09-2018 06:07 AM

27mm front, dang!

Im curious to hear how much of a pain it is to get the front in

TVPostSound 02-09-2018 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie (Post 4366652)
27mm front, dang!

Im curious to hear how much of a pain it is to get the front in

Subframe has to be dropped!!

Minnie.the.Moocher 02-09-2018 09:03 AM

You didn't pull an all nighter to install it ?

TVPostSound 02-09-2018 09:19 AM

Used to be that!!

I have too much work, have to plan accordingly now.

Mini_Vinnie 02-09-2018 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by TVPostSound (Post 4366716)
Subframe has to be dropped!!

yeah, no thanks

TVPostSound 02-10-2018 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie (Post 4366741)
yeah, no thanks

Not up for a challenge??:grin:

Mini_Vinnie 02-11-2018 10:14 AM

I’m allergic to hard work :)

Nader230 03-29-2018 04:34 AM

Have you installed them yet?
Thoughts? Quick review?

TVPostSound 03-29-2018 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Nader230 (Post 4378694)
Have you installed them yet?
Thoughts? Quick review?

Im 2 weeks out of some major surgery, can't do anything strenuous for another 4 weeks.:mad:


Way (Motor Works)

If you're reading this, whats the book labor on installing a front sway bar??:popcorn:

Minnie.the.Moocher 04-02-2018 12:33 PM

Apparently the end links OEM, are plastic. Local shop advises replacing those if going to HD rear bar. Also a few online sources mention this as well.

Did you do that with prior sway or planning to do so with this one?

TVPostSound 04-02-2018 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Minnie.the.Moocher (Post 4379836)
Apparently the end links OEM, are plastic. Local shop advises replacing those if going to HD rear bar. Also a few online sources mention this as well.

Did you do that with prior sway or planning to do so with this one?

Nope.

Have had the rear 23mm for a few months, at highest setting, no issues.

Composite, not plastic.:eek2:

Mini_Vinnie 04-02-2018 01:14 PM

If you went through the hassle of taking all the parts off to get the sway bars off, might as well replace the end links.

You will be amazed how flimsy they look after you get a pair of NM or other aftermarket ones in your hand.

Minnie.the.Moocher 04-02-2018 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie (Post 4379856)
If you went through the hassle of taking all the parts off to get the sway bars off, might as well replace the end links.

You will be amazed how flimsy they look after you get a pair of NM or other aftermarket ones in your hand.

Of course once you start down the road of replacing flimsy parts, you might have only a 50% OEM car. :roll:

TVPostSound 04-02-2018 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Mini_Vinnie (Post 4379856)
If you went through the hassle of taking all the parts off to get the sway bars off, might as well replace the end links.

You will be amazed how flimsy they look after you get a pair of NM or other aftermarket ones in your hand.

They look flimsy, bit they work, and haven't broken.

If I need new ones, they take 10 minutes to replace.

But you're allergic to work, right!!!:grin:

Mini_Vinnie 04-02-2018 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by TVPostSound (Post 4379867)

But you're allergic to work, right!!!:grin:

Correct ..... so I should say my installer went through the hassle :nod::grin:

Eddie07S 04-02-2018 03:17 PM

Wow, a 25mm solid RSB and a solid 27mm FSB, and with springs too!
This car will corning like it is on rails. :nod:
And, if the Gen III is like my Gen II, the dreaded understeer that people think will come on with the larger FSB will not happen. The car should be pretty neutral and, with that large RSB, possibly a bit on the oversteer side.

I am very interested in hearing what the OP thinks of the ride. Mine got stiffer just with the upgraded bars alone; without upgraded the springs.

As for replacing the end links, I had to replace mine. The OEM end links clunked like crazy with the stiffer bars. I have also heard of the OEM ones bending with bigger sway bars. The MINI ones aren't the best, at least for the Gen IIs.

TVPostSound 04-02-2018 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Eddie07S (Post 4379898)
Wow, a 25mm solid RSB and a solid 27mm FSB, and with springs too!
This car will corning like it is on rails. :nod:
And, if the Gen III is like my Gen II, the dreaded understeer that people think will come on with the larger FSB will not happen. The car should be pretty neutral and, with that large RSB, possibly a bit on the oversteer side.

Correct, the bigger bar will NOT create dreaded understeer. According to H&R, you will lean slightly to understeer, and any snap oversteer will be non existent.


Meanwhile, I used Moog greasable links on my R56 ,
I have these to install for my F56 at $15 a piece from Rock Auto, well worth it:
FRONT http://www.moog-suspension-parts.com/moog-k750807
REAR in development.

Eddie07S 04-02-2018 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by TVPostSound (Post 4379902)
Correct, the bigger bar will NOT create dreaded understeer. According to H&R, you will lean slightly to understeer, and any snap oversteer will be non existent.

Do you plan to track the car or just canyon carving? And, have you added any front camber? There are steering knuckles for the Gen III that will add a bit more camber than what the S comes with.

Yes, on the track, my car does tend towards a slight understeer. But I would not say that oversteer is nonexistent. I found that the car will still oversteer in the right (or is it "wrong"?) circumstance. It has happened to me when I have trail-braked deep into a corner and then released the brake too abruptly. On the other hand, the car is very stable with an abrupt off-throttle in the middle of a full throttle curve, which is a very good thing in my mind.

I am looking forward to hearing what your impressions are when you get these installed.

TVPostSound 05-22-2018 04:21 PM

It has begun!!!

See first post!!!!

Yoshimura 1 05-22-2018 04:44 PM

Waiting to hear about the performance handling.

TVPostSound 05-22-2018 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Yoshimura 1 (Post 4392663)
Waiting to hear about the performance handling.

Right now with only the solid 25mm rear, it over rotates!!
It'll be a monster with he front bar!!

TVPostSound 05-24-2018 12:18 PM

Both front and rear installed!!!


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