Well I have a 2011 mcs and I had a set of used bc racing coilovers. They were ok they rode a little rough but nothing I couldn't handle with it being a daily driver. I've thought about swapping them out because they probably have 25k miles on them and they are starting to make some noise (thinking it's the pillow ball bearing on the top plate, if that's what it's even called). I hear such great reviews on koni yellow. Don't know much about them, do i use stock spring or can I use a lowering spring with them? I liked the look of my car lower (not slammed) but I liked less wheel gap. Will a lowering spring damage the shocks because of reduced shaft play? I was also considering kw v1 or v2 coilovers. Which will ride better? It is a daily driver I don't track the car but if like to try a couple events and have some fun though. Any input would be awsome.

 

Scooter - It depends on what you want. Koni shocks are adjustable for handling (not height). There are other options out there. Bilstien B8s are none adjustable. Both will accept lowering springs, but they take a stock style spring. You will need the stock top mount with either of those. Lowering springs will be stiffer than stock springs. I have the B8s with the MINI sports suspension springs. The ride is acceptable and actually much better than the MINI sports suspension shocks. There are used lowering springs for sale on the NAM market place. The KWs are a viable options. Seem to be good quality but can't really say anything about them as I have never used them.

 

I've installed every kind of suspension you can think of. I can tell you I feel the BC's are a little harsh, and worse depending on how low you go.
I would for sure the Koni Yellows would ride better even with stock springs. I've had customers use both Bilstien and Koni, but actually had them prefer the Koni and do agree they ride better.
Both the Bilstien and Koni can use with lowering springs. I've actually had people that got just lowering springs found the ride too harsh, but then we switched to the Yellows and the ride improved 10x.
If you do go Bilstein go with the sport as they are designed with more travel for lowering springs https://www.waymotorworks.com/bilste...6-r55-r57.html

Now changing gears and going to KWs. That is the hands down best of both worlds if you go with our custom TSW Special KWs. We have exclusive to us the KW V2 and V3 made to our spec with special linear springs. This setup will ride better than stock, but still be firm enough to out perform others on the track or mountains as the linear rate is matched and makes the car a monster being super predictable and inspiring confidence. If your budget allows the KWs for sure a no brainer.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/kw-var...r55-56-57.html

 

The TSW me u guys sell, what is different than kw from somewhere else? Is it just the springs? And will kw in general ride all around better than koni with lowering spring?

 

they are built to the TSW specs and have linear springs. Also the springs we use are 60mm so you can get more camber in the front. Unlike the standard KWs you get off the shelf anywhere are the standard KW spec with larger beehive style progressive springs.

I can say our TSW setup will ride better than the lowering springs.

The standard KWs I feel ride similar or just a little better than lowering springs. We can get you these standard KWs, but with how much better the TSW ones are we don't get request for the standard KWs.

The big thing with both sets of KWs the amount of shock travel you will still have even with lowering.

 

Are the TSW linear springs available to purchase separately? I've got KW V2s with the standard beehive springs but they're sagging and even at max ride height they're sitting too low. They're also rubbing on the tyre's inside sidewall.

 

Sorry the TSW setup only comes as a kit we don't offer just springs as that wouldn't encourage people to just buy the complete kit from us.

 

Do you know of any other linear springs that work with the KW coilovers?

 

I used swift springs on my kw v3, ended up with 8kg in front and 9kg/mm in rear

I had to buy some spacers and greene performance made me a top hat retainer to convert to straights

 

With the TSW KW Kits, I see only come in V2 and V3, and does not come with the B-spec which appears to be an all out race setup. Is the B-spec adjustable like the KWV3? Lastly how does either of the TSW KW kits compare to the Bilstein P10 which seems like a direct comparison to the V3.

 

Yes we only offer them in V2 and V3. Most people just do the V2.
The Bspec is totally different as it is NOT adjustable. The rules for Bspec don't allow for adjustable valving. So we tested and set it to what was ideal for track use and matched springs we wanted at a higher rate for race only. Also Bspec mandated a 6inch ride height. So these are no way ideal or cost effective for a customer not in Bspec. As you would want the adjustability of the V2 or V3 so you can set it up for your actual use.
We do also sell the Bilstein PSS10, but again it's an off the shelf setup with progressive springs so it doesn't compare to our custom setup. Also it cost more.

You can get all kinds of different brands of linear springs. You would just have to get the correct upper spring perch to make them work. We use the KW upper perches, or the Vorshlag camber plates include the correct perch.

 

When it comes to the kw coilovers I noticed that adjusting ride height is a little different than my bc racing coilovers. On the bc the shock is threaded into a housing so the spring preload isn't adjusted. When adjusting the kw ride height is preload affected? I noticed that there is a "smaller" spring on top of the "main spring". Is the smaller spring compressed and expanded during ride height adjustment and since it is a smaller spring the preload of the main spring isn't affected, since the smaller spring takes less force to move? Or am I missing somthing?

 

on the stock springs it changing preload, when converted to straight springs with the right length and helper springs, it's really just taking up slack in the helper spring, not preloading the main spring. Much better this way

 

I want with the Koni pro sports my self ‘ with Eibach springs & powerflex Black series shock tops still waiting on the spring pads to come in , I forget to get them with the first order ,

 

we have our new coilover kit out. Guaranteed to ride better and handle better too
spent some time with a Formula Atlantic suspension specialist to design our different versions. If you don't think so....SEND THEM BACK! That's how much we believe we have the right product. I've setup championship winning cars and have ridden in every single setup out there. All come with SWIFT springs and camber plates.
street/track = great for everyday driving and track days $1800 shipped
competition = slightly rougher ride but custom valved for the type/compound tire you are going to run $2000 shipped

2 way with external reservoirs $3500

3 way with external reservoirs $4900

 

 

yes, I just haven't gotten them up yet on the site
feel free to PM me for payment options and which model you want/need