Suspension Springs, struts, coilovers, sway-bars, camber plates, and all other modifications to suspension components for Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

Suspension Ok, I thought the pulley was good... then I got a swaybar...

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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The car feels very neutral with the Alta bar on the stiffest setting, very much an extension of the driver.

And yes, I have been through several driving schools, quite a few open track events, as well as winning a regional autocross annual championship, so I think I can judge it fairly well.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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>>If there is understeer and oversteer what exactly is "neutral"? What does the car do when you exceed the friction coefficient of the tires? Slide laterally with all four?

I'm not an experienced pro driver but this is my understanding of how it works:
With neutral handling, you can actually make your car oversteer or understeer depending on how much weight (increased friction coefficient) you place on the front or rear by easing up on or increasing the throttle (or coming on or off the brakes). More throttle, more understeer; less throttle, more oversteer (for a front wheel drive car). So, the car is "balanced" well that slight changes in weight distribution (traction) change the behaviour of the car between oversteer and understeer. A good driver can therefore get the proper reaction from the car for the particular situation. In theory, you are right that all four tires should skid equally, but in reality, road, tire and dynamic (throttle/brake application) conditions lead the car to behave on way or the other.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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Hang on, correction to comment above: it doesn't matter if it is front or rear wheel drive...
 
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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I have the 22mm swaybar set in the middle and have done some autocrossing and about 15 track days in the past two summers. I have the car in some extreme situations on track and have had to correct from oversteer just twice. Both were induced by a sudden and strong steering input. It ended in than a second as I straightened the wheel just a fraction. At optimnal speed and with a smooth steering input, the car is neutral and will drift out as you finish the turn. This will not happen in daily driving and should only be tried on a track.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Can't wait for some track time when I get my MCS. The track is the only place to go really fast and learn your car really fast.
 
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