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ChrisMCS04 04-29-2008 07:03 PM

Your MCS coilover reference thread. Pictures and info
 
OK guys I think with all of the talk about coilovers lately and all of the past threads we need to create one of these threads to compile all of the info in and have the mods sticky it for everyone:thumbsup:
Please add to the list and I will transfer all of the info to the first post:nod:
Hopefully we can gather as many pics and choices that we won't know what to do with all of the info:lol:

Please give the drop that they allow and the spring rates:thumbsup:
Any prices and if they come with camber plates, etc...as well:nod:

How-to install coilovers found here!

**Note: Spring rates listed are as advertised, most companies will substitute different rate springs to suit your needs. Check with vendor for confirmation**

So, to start:

H&R $1,099.95-ALTA Price
.07"-1.5"F .06"-1.5"R
Progressive rate
http://www.altaminiperformance.com/s...141_medium.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/3504/img6902ui0.jpg


H&R RSS $1,399.95-ALTA Price
1"-2" F&R
Progressive rate
http://hrsprings.com/application_ele...cRSS1417-2.jpg
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/l...S/DCAM0055.jpg

M7 $1,499.00-M7 website
Higher than stock all the way to hitting the wells on all 4 corners:lol:...Randy@m7
240lbs. Front and 280lbs. Rear
front
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture720.jpg
rear
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...Picture676.jpg
http://gandini.unm.edu/PGpages/Inter.../MINI-COs3.jpg

Megan Racing ***The Megan's are $850 and now come with rear top hats and damper adjustment cables. Can also be ordered with lower front springs.***- AutoXCooper, Way Motor Works & Ebay
Higher than stock- 3.5" F&R(Old)...1.5" F&R(New)
6kgF&R(Old)...8kgs.F & 6kgs.R(New)
http://meganracing.com/uploadImage/r...CDK-MC0204.jpg
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ta/500/low.jpg

BC Racing $1,150.00-WyvernMini
Adjustable Higher than stock to 2"+ drop F&R
8kgs. F & 6kgs. R
http://a436.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...9664eb6fc3.jpg
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...67/848side.jpg

G4 Racing $933.77-Ebay
-110mmF&R
7.2kgs. F & 6.2kgs. R
http://i8.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/d3/49/7daa_1.JPG

Bilstein PSS9 $1,939.00-Helix
Adjustable drop
Progressive rate
http://www.promini.com/images/products/168548_med.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/32/51498874_2ec15f8af6.jpg

Eibach Pro-Street $983.00-JSCSpeed
1.2"-2.4"F&R
Progressive rate


Originally Posted by agile_moments (Post 1005477)
I've followed this thread from page 1, anxiously awaiting the day I could finally say.....

This:



https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...m/DCP_0003.JPG

Made this:


https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...m/DCP_0002.JPG

Turn into this:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...m/DCP_0011.JPG

(ignore the curb rash, courtesy of a previous owner of the wheel.)

Better pictures to come tonight, but for now:
Eibach Pro-Street coilovers, all the way down.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...m/DCP_0008.JPG



Koni $1,299.95-Outmotoring
Adjustable drop
Progressive rate
http://www.outmotoring.com/images/P/...1150-5079s.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/3...cfe9bf2636.jpg

Tein Basic $885.00-Ebay
1.4"F&R
448lbs. F&R

Tein Super Street $1,254.99-Ebay
0"-2.2"F & .7"-2.4"R
504lbs.F&R

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...eve/miniFS.jpg


Cross $2,299.76-Mini-Madness, Helix...I think that is where I took the prices from...I know RMW has great prices as well
.5"-2.5"F&R
8kgs./450lbs.F & 7kgs./393lbs.R...Also, 7kgs.F & 4kgs.R(thanks pauliekeys)
[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Owner/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-17.jpg[/IMG]
Sorry I cannot get the image to work right now TWON...I will update later...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/...b65e1f.jpg?v=0

KW
http://www.kw-suspension.com/images/...en_en_2008.png

KW V1 $1,195.00-Mini-Madness
.8"-2.0"F&R
Progressive F & 230lbs.R
http://www.mini-madness.com/ProductI...suspension.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...o/IM006389.jpg


KW V2 $1,595.00-Mini-Madness
.8"-2.0"F&R
Progressive F & 230lbs.R

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...02486_copy.jpg

KW V3 $2,599.00-Mini-Madness
.8"-2.0"F&R
Progressive F & 230lbs.R


Leda $2,699.00Mini-Madness
Adjustable drop
Custom spring rates
http://www.mini-madness.com/ProductI...nsion/leda.jpg
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...icture_394.jpg

Out Motoring $1,395.00-OutMotoring
Adjustable drop
Call for spring rates
http://www.outmotoring.com/images/P/OM_coilovers_md.jpg

TSW AST/Swift SA $1,895.00-(TSW)...Texas Speedwerks
Adjustable drop
6kgs./336lbs. F&R
http://www.txwerks.com/catalog/AST%20All-4.JPG

TSW AST/Swift SA RACING $1,895.00-(TSW)...Texas Speedwerks
Adjustable drop
8kgs./448lbs. F&R
***coilovers look exactly the same***

KSport Kontrol Pro $939.99 - BSH Speed Shop
3"-3.4" F&R Camber Plates and Adjustable Front End Links
7.4kg/414lbs.F & 6kg/336lbs.R
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/...bd10b6dc_o.jpg
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1098/...e33c13bf_o.jpg

NEX $749.00-Ebay
1.5"-3.5"F 1.5"-2.5"R
6kg F & 4kg R
http://i2.ebayimg.com/03/i/08/d5/91/20_1.JPG

NEX SS $739.00-Ebay
Adjustable drop
inquire for spring rates
http://bmw325racing.50megs.com/nexcoilovers.JPG

D2 Racing RS $1,168.00-Ebay...$865.00( http://www.hopupracing.com/d2rasprscosy40.html )
Adjustable drop
Different rates available
http://i21.ebayimg.com/02/i/05/c1/13/19_1_sbl.JPG

Vogtland
Adjustable drop
Progressive spring rates

Spax
Adjustable drop
Call for rates

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...Y_B_MCS_05.jpg

VMaxx $649.00 Stratmosphere
Front Drop 40mm-70mm Rear drop 30mm-65mm
http://www.stratmosphere.com/vmx_mini_side.jpg

ninjlao 04-29-2008 08:05 PM

I'm pretty sure most coilover companies will supply any spring rate you ask without an extra fee...

ChrisMCS04 04-29-2008 08:10 PM

Cool...I will see what I can find.

In the meantime, do you guys know anything I have not posted or any info that is different than posted?

Bring on the Pics:nod:

kyriian 04-29-2008 08:20 PM

1 Attachment(s)
H&R RSS:
03 MCS
Attachment 173100
i can't give an exact spring rate, but i do know front floats somewhere around 500 and rears around 450

ChrisMCS04 04-29-2008 09:17 PM

Thanks for the pic and info...
Lets keep it coming:)


I will try to post prices soon as well...I will try and find an average off of the market, not the M.S.R.P.

ChrisMCS04 04-29-2008 09:32 PM

Also, feel free to post any impressions and experiences with the coilovers:thumbsup:

The more info, the better the thread becomes.

etalj 04-29-2008 10:44 PM

Is it possible to get some sort of chart that can show how many people have certain coilovers? Like a poll that shows the results as a bar graph or similar?

checkmate2006 04-29-2008 11:07 PM

Megan Racing with 8kg/6kg spring rates

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/...157d24d5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3243/...f1a24946_b.jpg

ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by etalj (Post 2199225)
Is it possible to get some sort of chart that can show how many people have certain coilovers? Like a poll that shows the results as a bar graph or similar?

We could have a poll...I would have to talk to mark and see how to get it done...I really want to focus on the coilovers themselves(price, options-camber plates-height adjustable..., drop, spring rates, etc...). I think that if we would just have impressions from users along with the info provided and some pics it would be perfect, but I will see what I can do for a poll:thumbsup:

ca$per 04-30-2008 07:47 AM

This is all a very good effort done by ChrisMCS04 and I thank you for starting it. It would be nice to see the coil overs with info and pictures of the rides. On the other hand, I believe that there is a great feature on this site, which is the Products Review.
In the past few months I liked using that part of the site more and more due to the ability to read a more focused review on the product itself without having to read about lots of other things that are not related. The rating is great too and direct pros and cons really seal the deal. Currently the only CO review is on the Megans... and they rate around 9 or more, which is great value for the money. We could encourage people to use that section of the site more for easy and direct accessibility for everyone :thumbsup:

Again, thanks ChrisMCS04 :thumbsup:

ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 07:57 AM

No Problem:thumbsup:

ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 08:40 AM

I decided to post this here since they are not produced yet...

Buddy Club/Harrison

Originally Posted by ninjlao
Buddy Club has began producing coilovers for the MINI under the brand name Harrison. Here's a few pics of what it looks like.

http://www.aai-racing.com.tw/Harriso...s/damper_1.jpg

http://www.aai-racing.com.tw/Harriso...s/damper_3.jpg

http://www.aai-racing.com.tw/Harriso...s/damper_2.jpg


Wake|MCS 04-30-2008 08:40 AM

Good call on this thread Chris. I'll be sure to post my impressions on the PSS9's once I get them on the car.

Also, you could add the Bilstein PSS. I hadn't heard about it till I went on the site but maybe someone here has them. It's basically a "stage 1" coilover, no damper adjustability, just ride height.

ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 08:44 AM

Cool:thumbsup: will check it out and add it to the list...
I know there is a spring thread, but I wanted strictly coilovers in here...
Does not matter how simple or complex...just has to be a coilover:grin:

pauliekeys 04-30-2008 09:55 AM

Megan coilovers: 2nd version 1.5" drop 8kg/6kg. 0 to 32 dampening rates.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2114/...cf2d1b69_m.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3185/...92c843c7_m.jpg
In this picture you can see the colars stacked on top of each other in order to achieve the 1.5 inch drop. Megan offers a different shorter spring/shock allowing for close to a 2.0 inch drop which you can be seen in this photo.http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2135/...e747c5fa_m.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3094/...84fc73de_m.jpg


Cross coil overs: .drop 0.5 to 2.5 inch drop,optional spring rates. 8kg/6kg or 7kg/4kg. 0 to 15 damping rates.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2240/...458998f4_m.jpghttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3069/...ac02cff1_m.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2276/...5256ccb3_m.jpg In this picture you can see that the Cross system can go quite low. There was still at least a 1/2 inch that they could be droped :eek: .
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2265/...b65e1f.jpg?v=0

End result ! :thumbsup:

ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 10:06 AM

Great info paulie:thumbsup:
I will add one of the Cross pics and the rest can stay here in this post...I don't want the first post to be pages long:lol:

I have to figure out some sort of organizing when this is all finished:thumbsup:

ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 10:46 AM

Wake- I did not find anything for the Mini with just the PSS system...its all PSS9's...where did you find it? I checked Bilstein.com...

ca$per 04-30-2008 11:15 AM

WAKE... slam it... do it..do it ... Doooooooo eeeeeiiiitttt :lol::lol::lol:

and make sure you post me some pics :razz:

Chris... I think it is PSS9s... he's just to lazy or to busy to type it all :lol::lol::lol:



Originally Posted by Wake|MCS (Post 2199840)
Good call on this thread Chris. I'll be sure to post my impressions on the PSS9's once I get them on the car.

Also, you could add the Bilstein PSS. I hadn't heard about it till I went on the site but maybe someone here has them. It's basically a "stage 1" coilover, no damper adjustability, just ride height.


ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 11:18 AM

Sweet:thumbsup:
I know that they make a PSS system, but did not think that they had one for our cars...
A buddy has a Cranberry Red GTI VR6 with a stage 3 VF supercharger kit on it:eek2: dropped on PSS's

AstroBlackS 04-30-2008 11:27 AM

3 Attachment(s)
Wow! Great thread idea, and nice job organizing it. :thumbsup:

H&R RSS Club sport - with a good amount of room to still go lower.
Attachment 173101

Attachment 173102

Attachment 173103

AstroBlackS 04-30-2008 11:30 AM

Pic of the H&R RSS
http://hrsprings.com/application_ele...cRSS1417-2.jpg

ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 11:30 AM

Thank you for the compliments. I really like you car too!

I think I am going to start limiting the pics at the top to one or two for each type...I will post one of yours up top, but it will be later today:thumbsup:
Any info on the spring rates?

checkmate2006 04-30-2008 11:31 AM

I see EXACTLY what is causing the lack of drop if you look at the difference between the McPherson braket the Megan is REALLY tall and the Cross is at the minimum which is what I am thinking about doing to mine is take it to a pipe saw and cut about 3 inches off the top of the bracket which i see no need because the threads aren't at the top they are near the bottom.

AstroBlackS 04-30-2008 11:33 AM

Also, here is the best price on the RSS kit:
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/s...7.2&perfCode=A

$1,209 at Tire Rack. They have had that same price forever. :)

ChrisMCS04 04-30-2008 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by AstroBlackS (Post 2200301)

I figured out what I want to do...:wink: I'll re-organize this later, but it will be the info as listed+pic like what you have here+car pic...then all the extras will be catagorized in later posts...nothing against anyone who gets left out of the top...I am just going to chose which ever one...nothing specific(kinda)...just will choose the one that is most visually informative:thumbsup:

Nice job on the price too!


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