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Lopanda May 9, 2017 11:17 AM

Orange key light (no strikethrough) and car won't start
 
Dealer said car wouldn't start because of a fuel pump, replaced pump, fuel filter, spark plugs(they were burnt to a crisp), battery(autozone said it was bad when I went to have it tested), fuel pump relay. Now everything is getting power, I hear the fuel pump prime, the spark plugs are getting gas and sparking, the camshaft turns and I hear no grinding or bumping coming from the timing chain so I don't think it's timing, the only thing that is concerning is that there is an Orange key light that pops up on the dash everytime I put the key in. I've tried other keys with the same result, and I'm not sure what it means. The car will crank over and over but will not start. I also had an error code for a possible short to the MAF sensor but that popped up after we started working on things and may have just been because we had the filter assembly taken out with the key in the ignition. It's also worth noting that the battery was out of the car for 4 hours while it was being charged/replaced when I found out it was bad, so several components of the ECU reset. Any ideas?

AZdsrt May 9, 2017 06:41 PM

I assume you have Comfort Access? Looked up the symbol in the manual, is what I found -

Remote control malfunctioning or, in
cars with Comfort Access, not
detected

The engine cannot be started. Have
the remote control checked, if necessary.

Lopanda May 10, 2017 06:40 AM

I don't have comfort access, and the same thing happens with all 3 keys, which is what I assume it means by "Remote Control"? So I'm not sure exactly what should be done here

Lopanda May 10, 2017 07:56 AM

ALSO -- the indicator lamp I have is JUST an orange key, there is no strikethrough like the lamp you are referring to. I just went through the manual again and there is 0 reference to the light I'm getting

Minnie.the.Moocher May 10, 2017 08:07 AM

One of these? https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-lights-431122

Lopanda May 10, 2017 08:10 AM

It's like #14 but without the question mark

ECSTuning May 11, 2017 11:40 AM

Might either be the transponder/key insert or maybe the key fobs need to be reprogramed?

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...n-t-start.html

Lopanda May 11, 2017 11:51 PM

I may just end up taking it to the dealership to have the ECU stuff done. I don't feel 100% comfortable with the emulator I have and really don't want to brick it lol

ECSTuning May 12, 2017 05:59 AM

Yep, somethings up with the communication from the key to the car. Let us know what happens.

-=gRaY rAvEn=- May 12, 2017 06:05 AM

Sounds like the batteries in the remote fobs are kaput.

If it doesn't read the key due to low or bad fob battery, the immobilizer kicks in preventing it from starting.

valvashon May 12, 2017 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=- (Post 4300994)
Sounds like the batteries in the remote fobs are kaput.

If it doesn't read the key due to low or bad fob battery, the immobilizer kicks in preventing it from starting.

Wrong. I have repaired a second generation key with a completely dead battery due to being chewed up by a dog (really). This caused one of the microswitches on the board to stay "on" which drained the battery. I asked the owner several times if the key still started the car and this was confirmed. Key is still in use as far as I know after I replaced the case, switch and battery.

Also, in other parts of the world (not in N.A.) MINI will sell you a non-remote key for these cars which of course has no battery. The immobilizer system is independent of the remote battery in all MINI keys as far as I know.

If the engine turns over it's probably not the immobilizer system, as that's exactly what the immobilizer prevents (at least on our first generation cars). The orange key symbol is curious, but I'm pretty sure there are other issues here.

Bruce


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