Cold Start Issues Database
#327
6th Gear
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Model: 2009 R56 Mini Cooper S
Build Date: Oct 2008
Miles: around 32,000 miles
Duration: 1-2 minutes
Frequency: twice a week, when parked nose down
RPM range: idle - 2500
Ambient Temp: 30 F
Oil: Mobile 1 0W-40 Full Synthetic
for our Ohio people, and my problem details...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ue-at-mag.html
Build Date: Oct 2008
Miles: around 32,000 miles
Duration: 1-2 minutes
Frequency: twice a week, when parked nose down
RPM range: idle - 2500
Ambient Temp: 30 F
Oil: Mobile 1 0W-40 Full Synthetic
for our Ohio people, and my problem details...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ue-at-mag.html
Last edited by iwashmycar; 02-10-2010 at 07:47 AM. Reason: update format
#334
Just got back my 08 (Jan08 build) MCS for the cold start issue. 25,500 miles.
They replaced the Timing Chain and tensioner as well as 7 other parts for this issue. On start up - no noise.
Because of P0302 code, they also replaced two injectors. And while they were at it they also found a leaking thermostat which was also replaced.
Back to being a happy camper again.
They replaced the Timing Chain and tensioner as well as 7 other parts for this issue. On start up - no noise.
Because of P0302 code, they also replaced two injectors. And while they were at it they also found a leaking thermostat which was also replaced.
Back to being a happy camper again.
#335
March 09 build MCS
Had vacuum pump replaced only to have problem come back next morning.
Dealer then replaced tensioner and timing chain (1/28/10 13500). Will report back if problem returns.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-post1516.html
Had vacuum pump replaced only to have problem come back next morning.
Dealer then replaced tensioner and timing chain (1/28/10 13500). Will report back if problem returns.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-post1516.html
#336
Model: 2008 R56 Mini Cooper S
Build Date: February 2008
Miles: around 23500 miles
Duration: 1-2 minutes
Frequency: First time
RPM range: idle - 2500
Ambient Temp: 46 F
Oil: OEM
It's first time so far and the noise not that loud. I just start drive gently and a minute later the noise gone.
Build Date: February 2008
Miles: around 23500 miles
Duration: 1-2 minutes
Frequency: First time
RPM range: idle - 2500
Ambient Temp: 46 F
Oil: OEM
It's first time so far and the noise not that loud. I just start drive gently and a minute later the noise gone.
#337
#339
2010 MCS (December 2009 assembly date)
300 miles (1 week old)
Metal on metal rattle from the left side of the engine, yesterday, twice after cold starting at 3 Fahrenheit (-16 Celsius), lasted about 2-5 minutes, sounded like a diesel engine
What should I ask the dealer to change or check on such a new car? Any advice please, as I don't want to drive 150 miles to the dealership for naught?
PS The car has been towed to the dealer for replacing the intake manifold with the redesigned 4 port one, after having presented the icy throttle starting problem later during the day...
300 miles (1 week old)
Metal on metal rattle from the left side of the engine, yesterday, twice after cold starting at 3 Fahrenheit (-16 Celsius), lasted about 2-5 minutes, sounded like a diesel engine
What should I ask the dealer to change or check on such a new car? Any advice please, as I don't want to drive 150 miles to the dealership for naught?
PS The car has been towed to the dealer for replacing the intake manifold with the redesigned 4 port one, after having presented the icy throttle starting problem later during the day...
Last edited by R3R; 01-31-2010 at 06:16 PM.
#340
Guys Im sorry but with the merge of my thread with this one by the mods my count got trashed. I started a petition on the mini cooper archive site below as well as if you want to register in the comments section we can keep a more accurate count. It appears that this issue is getting serious enough where we should be trying to do something about it.
http://www.minicooperspeed.com/mini-cooper-cold-start-knocking-noise-issue-2007/
http://digg.com/motorsport/Petition_...oper_S_and_JCW
http://www.minicooperspeed.com/mini-cooper-cold-start-knocking-noise-issue-2007/
http://digg.com/motorsport/Petition_...oper_S_and_JCW
Last edited by skippydog; 01-30-2010 at 09:24 PM.
#342
#344
#346
#347
Cold start up
2007 mini s
37k
duration about 4-6 minutes
idle
it has happened so many times i lost count
I JUST NEED TO VENT AS I AM HOPING MINI WILL COME TO REALIZE THE ERROR IN THEIR WAYS. I PURCHASED MY MINI IN 07 AND ABOUT 7 MONTHS AFTER I HAD THAT DREADED PINGING NOISE I TOOK IT TO GET REPAIRED AND AFTER GETTIN THE COLD SHOULDER THE SERVICE CENTER REPAIRED THE CAR AS IT WAS A RECALL AS HE STATED OF A TENSIONER ISSUE ( OH IM A CHICK PLESE DONT JUMP MY THROAT IF I SAY IT IN A NON TECHNICAL WAY) PICKED UP MY CAR AND THEN IT CAME BACK I TOOK IT TO ANOTHER DEALER AND THEY COULD NOT REPLICATE THE ISSUE THIS IS THE GRIPE HOW MANY TIMES CAN THEY HIDE UNDER THE COVER OF DARKNESS WITH THIS WE CANT REPLICATE THE ISSUE JUNK SO I LEAVE MINI A RATLLTING ABOUT A THEN I TAKE MY CAR BACK IN BECAUSE ITS MAKING A NOISE LIKE THE WHOLE MOTOR IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE. SO THEY REPLCAED THE TIMINMG CHAIN TENSIONER AND THE CAM SHAFT FINALLY I TAKE MY BABY FOR A RIDE AND GUESS WHAT LIKE BUUUUUUUTTTTTTEEEEEERRRRR. AND THEN DISASTER THESE SO CALLED MINI LICNESED MECHANICS DID SOMETHING AND MY BABY WAS LEAKING OIL FOR A FEW DAYS WHEN I REALIZED IT WAS MY CAR I HAD THEM TOW MY CAR IN LONG STORY SHORT.... HEAD BLEW OUT SO THEY CHANGED IT SO NICE OF THEM ( OH I SURE DID GO TO ANOTHER DEALER I DID NOT WANT THEM TOUCHING MY CAR AGAIN) WHEN I WAS GIVEN MY CAR BACK IT HAD NO POWER AND THE NOISE PERSISTED I TOOK IT BACK AND SORRY CANT REPLICATE THE ISSUE NOW I HAVE A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WHAT CAN I DO I HAVE CALLED MINI OF NORTH AMERICA AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME BIG WIG LOOK AT MY CAR AND SAY..... SOOOOORY WE CANT REPLICATE THE ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!! IM AT WHITS END THE CAR HAS FAR LESS POWER THEN ITS POTENTIAL ITS PINGING AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGTH IS ON THIS WILL BE MY SECOND WEEK IN CONTACT WITH THEM AND I DUNNO I AM GOING TO JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOWEVER FYI I WONT BE SURPRISED IF THEY CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ISSUE IS THEY HAVENT THEN AND THEY PROBABLY WONT NOW.... MY CAR MAKES A FUNNY NOISE IN THE MORNING I NEVER HAD TO RE START MY CAR AFTER THE LAST REPAIR 65 % OF THE TIME IT TURNS OFF NEVER WHEN I ENGAGE THE CLUCH JUST TURNING IT ON THE IDLE IS FUNNY LOOKING IT JUMPS FOM 1/2 TO 1 RMP MY CAR NEVER EVER EVER FUNNY IDLED NOW IT DOES AND THE WORST PART I HAD AN AUTOMATIC LOANER THE OTHER DAY IT HAULED MORE BUM THAN MY CAR THAT MADE ME FURIOUS. OVERS ;O( OH MY WHOLE ORDEAL HAS BEEEN 2 YEARS AND COUNTING NOT TO MENTION I HAD A CLUTCH REPAIR AND A THROW OUT BEARING JOB DONT ASK ME I TOOK IT IN ONE DAY AND THEY GAVEIT BACK WITH A FUNNY CLUTC NOISE
37k
duration about 4-6 minutes
idle
it has happened so many times i lost count
I JUST NEED TO VENT AS I AM HOPING MINI WILL COME TO REALIZE THE ERROR IN THEIR WAYS. I PURCHASED MY MINI IN 07 AND ABOUT 7 MONTHS AFTER I HAD THAT DREADED PINGING NOISE I TOOK IT TO GET REPAIRED AND AFTER GETTIN THE COLD SHOULDER THE SERVICE CENTER REPAIRED THE CAR AS IT WAS A RECALL AS HE STATED OF A TENSIONER ISSUE ( OH IM A CHICK PLESE DONT JUMP MY THROAT IF I SAY IT IN A NON TECHNICAL WAY) PICKED UP MY CAR AND THEN IT CAME BACK I TOOK IT TO ANOTHER DEALER AND THEY COULD NOT REPLICATE THE ISSUE THIS IS THE GRIPE HOW MANY TIMES CAN THEY HIDE UNDER THE COVER OF DARKNESS WITH THIS WE CANT REPLICATE THE ISSUE JUNK SO I LEAVE MINI A RATLLTING ABOUT A THEN I TAKE MY CAR BACK IN BECAUSE ITS MAKING A NOISE LIKE THE WHOLE MOTOR IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE. SO THEY REPLCAED THE TIMINMG CHAIN TENSIONER AND THE CAM SHAFT FINALLY I TAKE MY BABY FOR A RIDE AND GUESS WHAT LIKE BUUUUUUUTTTTTTEEEEEERRRRR. AND THEN DISASTER THESE SO CALLED MINI LICNESED MECHANICS DID SOMETHING AND MY BABY WAS LEAKING OIL FOR A FEW DAYS WHEN I REALIZED IT WAS MY CAR I HAD THEM TOW MY CAR IN LONG STORY SHORT.... HEAD BLEW OUT SO THEY CHANGED IT SO NICE OF THEM ( OH I SURE DID GO TO ANOTHER DEALER I DID NOT WANT THEM TOUCHING MY CAR AGAIN) WHEN I WAS GIVEN MY CAR BACK IT HAD NO POWER AND THE NOISE PERSISTED I TOOK IT BACK AND SORRY CANT REPLICATE THE ISSUE NOW I HAVE A CHECK ENGINE LIGHT WHAT CAN I DO I HAVE CALLED MINI OF NORTH AMERICA AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME BIG WIG LOOK AT MY CAR AND SAY..... SOOOOORY WE CANT REPLICATE THE ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!! IM AT WHITS END THE CAR HAS FAR LESS POWER THEN ITS POTENTIAL ITS PINGING AND THE CHECK ENGINE LIGTH IS ON THIS WILL BE MY SECOND WEEK IN CONTACT WITH THEM AND I DUNNO I AM GOING TO JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOWEVER FYI I WONT BE SURPRISED IF THEY CANT FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ISSUE IS THEY HAVENT THEN AND THEY PROBABLY WONT NOW.... MY CAR MAKES A FUNNY NOISE IN THE MORNING I NEVER HAD TO RE START MY CAR AFTER THE LAST REPAIR 65 % OF THE TIME IT TURNS OFF NEVER WHEN I ENGAGE THE CLUCH JUST TURNING IT ON THE IDLE IS FUNNY LOOKING IT JUMPS FOM 1/2 TO 1 RMP MY CAR NEVER EVER EVER FUNNY IDLED NOW IT DOES AND THE WORST PART I HAD AN AUTOMATIC LOANER THE OTHER DAY IT HAULED MORE BUM THAN MY CAR THAT MADE ME FURIOUS. OVERS ;O( OH MY WHOLE ORDEAL HAS BEEEN 2 YEARS AND COUNTING NOT TO MENTION I HAD A CLUTCH REPAIR AND A THROW OUT BEARING JOB DONT ASK ME I TOOK IT IN ONE DAY AND THEY GAVEIT BACK WITH A FUNNY CLUTC NOISE
#349
Sigh
July '07 build. MCS auto. Had the rattle a couple of times.
Took it to Momentum Mini here in Houston and got the usual run-around. Ranges from essentially "they all do that when it is cold" to "bring it back if it gets worse" (and in the same conversation). Even had the service rep tell me that the weather is getting warmer so it should stop.
Took it to Momentum Mini here in Houston and got the usual run-around. Ranges from essentially "they all do that when it is cold" to "bring it back if it gets worse" (and in the same conversation). Even had the service rep tell me that the weather is getting warmer so it should stop.
#350
Problem (finally) solved at 19845 miles
Jan 08 build. MCS auto. Rattle almost everyday (<40F) or even park at slope (<50F), rattle noise range from annoying to scary.
First my dealer replace time chain tensioner @ 8600 miles, oil level checked. Problem was still there but the rattle period was shorten somehow from (10+ mins to <5mins). After warming up, the engine still runs rough at winter at low rev compare to summer.
Finally at they fixed the problem by replacing the whole time chain assembly as reported by Motoring file in May 2009:
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/...d-start-issue/
It's 2 days engine out job according to my dealer. Now the engine runs with no rattle noise at all @ 27F, parked 10 hrs. The engine also runs as smooth as summer across the whole rev range.
Jan 08 build. MCS auto. Rattle almost everyday (<40F) or even park at slope (<50F), rattle noise range from annoying to scary.
First my dealer replace time chain tensioner @ 8600 miles, oil level checked. Problem was still there but the rattle period was shorten somehow from (10+ mins to <5mins). After warming up, the engine still runs rough at winter at low rev compare to summer.
Finally at they fixed the problem by replacing the whole time chain assembly as reported by Motoring file in May 2009:
http://www.motoringfile.com/2009/05/...d-start-issue/
It's 2 days engine out job according to my dealer. Now the engine runs with no rattle noise at all @ 27F, parked 10 hrs. The engine also runs as smooth as summer across the whole rev range.