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R56 Seats into my 04 R53: Installed and pics!

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Old 06-26-2017, 08:48 AM
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Yeah, for you it should be an easier swap than what was documented here because you're still in the same generation of R56-ish. This swap I did was required as the plugs changed from R53 to R56.
 
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I change mine in my PARK LANE. PARK LANE have really nice leather seats but during the summer ... Anyway R56 are more comfortable from my opinion.




 
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Nice job! Yes they are more comfortable and slightly...(only slightly) more supportive. They update the car nicely and have a heavy does for retro that the originals are missing.
 
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Originally Posted by ih8cornnuts View Post
Nice job! Yes they are more comfortable and slightly...(only slightly) more supportive. They update the car nicely and have a heavy does for retro that the originals are missing.
I'm getting ready to do the swap this week, i am waiting on the harness from an R56 to try to replug the in car harness rather than the seat plug. Hope it works, in case I want to swap to a different set of R56 seats later on.
 
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I'm getting ready to do the swap this week, i am waiting on the harness from an R56 to try to replug the in car harness rather than the seat plug. Hope it works, in case I want to swap to a different set of R56 seats later on.
Did you get this done?
 
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Did you get this done?
I actually did. Glad i did too, so i didn’t have to hack or cut anything. I found the floor side of the harness from a totaled vehicle for 30 bucks for both sides.

Got rid of everything on the r56 harness but the airbag harness and unhitched the old wires from the old (existing) connector. Plugged it in and no lights.
 
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I need some advice on swapping the opposite, Leather from R53 into leatherette R55

Need advice on wether it is possible to do the opposite easily. I assume it’s in reverse of your steps but wonder if anyone has successfully completed this switch. Should I wait to find a set of leather Clubman seats for my Clubvan or are the 06 S model leather just as good. I want leather with heat and the S are in great shape and heated but hope they will be a desired upgrade I’m looking for.
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Old 07-05-2018, 11:21 AM
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I went from the stock 2004 leatherette which was pretty stiff and cracking in places from 10 years of use. The R56 Leather was a no brainer despite the lack of heat. Although I think the R56 year seats are better than the R53. You should be doing the same steps except the plugs might be a tad different.
 
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Old 03-20-2019, 05:42 PM
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UNDER CONSTRUCTION


Tools needed

Torx Bits T40 and T60
3/8" Ratchet
Pliers
Wirestrippers (optional)
Diagonal Snips
Small Screwdrivers
Knife
Zip Ties
Beer (not shown)

***Remove you negative battery cable and let the car sit for 20-30 minutes. No use having an airbag deploy and ruin your new seats or having a permanently lit airbag light on your dash***



Grab that ratchet and T40 Torx bit and start removing the seat bolts, 4 per seat.



Now tilt the seat back and remove the electrical plugs for the Airbag (yellow) and seat belts (the other two). If you have heated seats there should be another black plug with some heavy gauge wiring. Pull those old seats out and be amazed at the years of crumbs and trash wedged in some of those areas. Take the time to really vacuum out this area. I've always thought I kept a clean car but apparently I dont have a small enough vacuum attachment to really get down in there...note to self!



Mmm tasty...Now you're going to remove the seat belt assembly from your R53 seats. This will installed on the newer R56 seats as the new buckles are different than the earlier models. To remove, use the T60 torx bit. Remember to pull towards you so you dont rack your knuckles on something hard and or sharp. This bolt is held down with blue loctite. Don't worry about all the nastiness in this area, we're going to clean up in a minute.



Now that you have that seatbelt bolt out, it's time to run the wires out. This is easier if you remove the plastic trim on the front and middle portion of the seat. This will open that area enough to easily feed those wires through.



Here is everything you should have removed so far. Seatbelt assembly, bolt and 4 qty seat bolts. Be sure to save that seatbelt bolt, it's a little bit longer than the R56 version and will thread right into the new seats.



Here, we are removing the seatbelts from the R56 seats. Same as above, hold the seat down and prepare to crank on that loctited bolt.



Moving on to the R56 seats. The 1st gen cars used multiple individual plugs, 2nd gen use this "all-in-one" plug. Fortunately the individual plugs are captive within this "master" plug. To separate, use a small flathead screwdriver and press the 2 retainers to slide out the plugs.



They'll come out just like this. You can toss that big ole' yellow plug now.



Now we're going to remove the airbag plug and replace with the plug from our 1st gen airbag. This allows the seat to plug right into the existing wire harness already in your car. There are 2 tiny little pin you press to remove the wires and their "pins".



Cut your old yellow airbag plug from your old seats. In hindsight I should have mended the newer plug to the in-car wiring harness. This way you can sell your old airbags and recoup some of your costs. I wanted to retain as much "stock integrity" as possible so I went this route.



You want to press out the inner plug from your freshly cut airbag connector. Be careful NOT to put your hand or fingers near that open end. The copper contacts are hard and sharp and you will put that SOB right through your finger...ask me how I know



Now that you have that inner plug out, remove that little pink retainer. Set aside so you dont lose it.



We're going to grab that little screwdriver again and press the old pins out. This will open up the pug to accept the new wires. Thankfully Mini kept them the same for stoopid easy swappin' ***Notice those lil bastard copper contacts. Do you really want THAT going into your finger? Me thinks not.




You'll want to trim some of that yellow sheathing from the airbag wire to give you enough room to install the pins. I used a knife and those wire strippers. Secondly, you want to align those pins so those detents grab and wont set your airbag light off in the future.



This is with the pins aligned and about to be installed back into the airbag connector. I left the gray portion out of the plug to ensure the connection would be made. You also want to re-install that little pink connector on the backside of that gray plug. I didn't take a pic because it was so small and easy.



This is the part that will likely cause some some controversy here. On the R53 seat there is a bolt (previously removed) and a pin for alignment of the seat belt assembly. On the R56 seat there is a bent steel "pin" that aligns the seatbelt assembly. I simply bent this piece flat with a pair of pliers and made sure to really crank down on that bolt.



Here we have the bolt installed, feel free to add a drop or two of some loctite to button everything up. I didn't but I might be removing the seats shortly to install heaters and take care of that then. Take car routing the wires through the seat frame. This unit slides on the rails so making the wires taught will limit the seat travel and possibly mess up your plugs/wiring.




Here are a few shots of the wiring, note zip tie location. Now its time to get those fancy new seats in!!!



This is the new seat tilted back with the plugs all attached. Note the airbag plug is in front of the bar, move it behind with the rest of the plugs.



Almost done!!! Time to crank those bolts down. Please clean them before installing, mine had a decent amount of grease on them. Go ahead and reconnect that battery cable and...



Revel in your new seat goodness. If you were used to the hard leatherette from the old seats like me, be prepared to sneak out at night and sit in your new seats naked...just kidding!

Please let me know if there are any questions.
I have a 2003 Mini R53 hatchback. Will these fit in my model?
 
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:16 PM
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Yes these instructions are R56 seats in a R53, no changes between the 03 and 04 models
 
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R56 seats in my r53

Followed all the directions however I wanted to add a few things. One, you have to enlarge the holes where the rear seat backs connect to the car. Two, you dont have to swap the seat belts. All you need to do is use a dremel to remove a bit of the plastic on each side of sealt belt buckle so that it goes in farther allowing it to click in. Three, I decided to purchase the seat wiring harness that would be part of the r56. I am purchasing all of these parts from Allmagautoparts.com, they are awesome!




 

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Old 04-03-2019, 06:23 AM
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I think the most important tip to this "guide" is that there are 20 ways to skin this cat. I hadn't seen this done before so I was learning as I go. Glad to see these swaps in others vehicles!
 
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Old 04-21-2019, 02:43 PM
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I am putting R56 seats into my R50. This thread is great, but what I want to do is simply cut off the R50 wiring harness, wire in the wiring harness from the R56 and plug it into the existing harness on the R56 seat. I've search every forum I can find and cannot find which wires from the R50 to match to the R56. I'm hoping someone can enlighten me. Note the wire colors on the car side are different than the colors on the seat side.

The Drivers side R56 harness has 12 wires:

1. Large gauge Brown
2. Large gauge Green\Violet
3. Green/White
4. Yellow/Grey
5. Green
6. Green/Grey
7 and 8. Brown
9 and 10. Twisted pair - Yellow and Blue/Yellow
10 and 12. Twisted pair - Yellow/Brown and Yellow/Red


Passenger side R56 harness has 13 wires:

1. Large gauge Brown
2. Large gauge Yellow/Red
3. Red/White
4. Yellow/Grey
5. Blue/Grey
6. Green
7. Green/Blue
8 and 9. Brown
10 and 11. Twisted pair - Blue and Brown


12 and 13. Twisted pair - Blue/Green and Green

Here's a picture of the driver's side harness. Hopefully, someone can tell me which wires on the R50 to attach each of these to. Thanks!!!
 
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:22 AM
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Looks like you need to reverse it from my wiring and post a new how-to!
 
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:31 AM
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That is what I will probably end up doing. I was hoping someone had matched the wires - it would save a lot of time. It will probably be a few weeks, but I will document and post when completed.
 
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