STU Subaru and Mitsubishi guys are adamant that they don't gain much, if anything, with the opening of boost tables. I guess we'll see if they're fibbing or not.

they fib big time, the key is how tyou ask the question, does peak HP increase? Nope but does hp under the curve increase? Hell yeah, a LOT

all these new turbo cars basically get gains like this

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...9c3ebd80ef.jpg

Am I correct that MINIs were not put in STH, and remain in STX for 2018?

yep, even the turbo mini's stay in STX

Has it been confirmed? I don't seem to see R56's listed under STX or STH in the Fastrack News

Yes, Mini S & JCW are staying in STX for 2018.

Draft of the 2018 rules are up on the SCCA page. I *think* the only known error right now pertains to which Golf Rs go into STH.

https://www.scca.com/pages/solo-cars-and-rules

After all that we stay in STX. That's fine by me. But seems rather silly given all the drama.

I think it may be a temporary thing. I heard that the SCCA doesn't expect the Mini to be the top dog of the STH cars. However, Craig specifically is a known quantity with both a head start in development and a boatload of driving talent. He'd be an odds on favorite to clean up the class in its first year.

Often perception is more important than reality in autocrosser's brains. STH is intended to capture GTI/WRX/Focus ST owners. Keeping the Mini out will ensure it is not locked in the brain as the car to have.

that was not happening with STX even with craig winning

What I find silly is that a lot of the drama surrounding the whole STX/STH MINI thing seems to be focussed around one guy. I love to see the MINI placing well in national autocross events but find it stupid that the MINI was kept out of STH because of what appears to be the influence of a single very capable driver.

I will be petitioning SCCA to have the MINI placed in STH for 2019.

Remember, letters != votes. Real people read them and discuss them. Stories and emotion don't work. Data works. Back any letter to the SEB with good data and you have a shot at something other than "thank you for your input."

The overarching principle in most decisions is "what is best for the health of this class." For a class to succeed, there needs to be 1 or 2 anchor cars at the top of the chain, popular enough to make numbers at National events across the country. I don't think the Mini is popular enough to be one of those. And, it's different enough in size & weight from the cars that could anchor a class (WRX. GTI, FoST) that it may not be worth the risk.

Wrx already beat the mini by the nukbers ive seen and that one guy has sold or is selling his mini

From the July Fastrack News


Seriously? :lol:

Guess I'll have to write a letter and detail HP/weight ratios.

I guess we just have to figure out how to get 285s on 11" wide wheels on a Mini under ST rules, then STU will be a cinch.