2 RMW equipped cars break the magical 1:30 barrier at Streets of Willow
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you know something I learned about Jan at the Atlanta tune session is that he has well over 1000 hrs helo time (helicopter) I don't know how many of you realize the complexity of flying a helicopter but stand on you head and juggle... the fact that Jan can drive is no surprise to me.
I thought he was a cook. I was gonna have him make me a sandwich. 
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What do you mean? You mean the way I talk? What? Funny how? What's funny about it? Funny, how? Let me understand this. Maybe I'm a little f**ked up. But I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to f**king amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? How am I funny? What the ****** is so funny about me? Tell me what's funny.
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What do you mean? You mean the way I talk? What? Funny how? What's funny about it? Funny, how? Let me understand this. Maybe I'm a little f**ked up. But I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to f**king amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? How am I funny? What the ****** is so funny about me? Tell me what's funny.
You know, how you tell a story...
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That was a nice Goodfellas rant.
What do you mean? You mean the way I talk? What? Funny how? What's funny about it? Funny, how? Let me understand this. Maybe I'm a little f**ked up. But I'm funny how? Funny like a clown? I amuse you? I'm here to f**king amuse you? What do you mean, funny? How am I funny? How am I funny? What the ****** is so funny about me? Tell me what's funny.
after reading some of the garbage on the other page.... I have decided it will further me no more to tell them how ridiculous their rants have become. It's obvious to anyone paying attention that we develope our OWN tunes....
How else would you tune a Rotrex when I am the only one that has one?
Who else has tuned a M62 with a map on it that I could get my hands on?
Who else tunes the worlds stroker engines that I developed? ROFLMAO.... Tuning is NOT black magic as some would love you to believe here on NAM. what we do here at RMW is develope great products at kick *** prices. Many around the world are enjoying our parts and services.
Either the competition will adapt or go away...
some are just left to flame away on message boards instead of innovating.
flame on...........
jan
How else would you tune a Rotrex when I am the only one that has one?
Who else has tuned a M62 with a map on it that I could get my hands on?
Who else tunes the worlds stroker engines that I developed? ROFLMAO.... Tuning is NOT black magic as some would love you to believe here on NAM. what we do here at RMW is develope great products at kick *** prices. Many around the world are enjoying our parts and services.
Either the competition will adapt or go away...
some are just left to flame away on message boards instead of innovating.
flame on...........
jan
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I never accused you of that, I merely pointed out that you did it within an amazing time frame. Do you know something that I don't?
I know you have been inferring that and TELLING people that...
you are getting very close to the edge of the cliff
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Since there is no book on this... and you have to archive certain things before the book can be written... I wish RMW would hurry up and finish all their projects so you could write a book... then John could read it... since people like me are too ignorant to read.. and therefore can't write a book.. but still achieve the unpossible... and then John will believe it... cuase he read it in a book...
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Sorry to be blunt about it.
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I'm trying to get a grasp of all the information presented in this thread. So far I've come up with this...
- 1. No solid information about the configuration the track was run other then it was run clockwise. batrugger posted some sort of image, but it doesn't really outline the complete configuration.
- 2. The cars were run with a transponder that was logging the times. (batrugger, post #18)
- 3. "the guy who runs the track" said that 1:30 in a MINI has never been done before. (Tuls, post #55)
- 1. What was the track configuration run that day? Can you demonstrate it by taking the track diagram and highlight in red (or some other highly visible color) what the exact path was, paying close attention to the path through the skip pad area as from an aerial view it appears to be just a wide open paved area.
- 2. If the cars were run with transponders then there should be data available listing all the times. Could you post a picture of all the times? Or better yet, were any of the cars running something like the TraqMate? If so you could just post the data file from that which would be readily viewable (and independently verifiable) in the TraqMate software.
- 3. Who is "the guy who runs the track?" Is he a full-time employee there who is present anytime there is something running on the track? Is there any empirical evidence to backup the whole "nobody has run 1:30 in a MINI before?"
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The fact that the RMW group was able to achieve these amazing results is consistent with their performance. They are certainly on the fast track to success. This was also the case with their change in marketing from "the power is in the parts not the tune" theme of the Dragon era. At the end of July, Jan contacted me several times about doing tuning for him. He had said the he had others working on this for him but as yet they had not delivered. We had a couple good conversations about the business, Jan is polite, but I had to decline simply because I have too many other large projects underway. There was no disagreement that any high flow head should yield the high numbers that we had achieved with a proper tune. To my knowledge, at this time RMW did not have their own tuning software. Fast forward a month or two and now RMW has the software and in an incredibly short time frame has been able to develop calibrations that his promoters say have me and other tuners worried about the competition. There is some truth in that but for different reasons. The fact that it took me and others hundreds of hours to come up with a tune that delivered an acceptable level of performance as well as no adverse conditions with OBD as well as all the miles of testing through many drive cycles to do it in this short amount of time for many varying configurations including modified cars, he must be a genius.
The ability to extract every ounce of HP out of an engine really just comes down to how much time you're willing to devote to it. Jan spent 4 and a half hours tuning my car to work out a bug in my OEM software, time spent that NO other tuner is going to donate.
I could read a few books and understand the goals of tuning, it doesn't take much from there to apply that knowledge and click a few buttons. Jan's good at doing what he does because he's dedicated. That's also the reason he has so many so called "Fan Bois". Because he says he'll do something and gets it done, no matter the time sink.
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I'm trying to get a grasp of all the information presented in this thread. So far I've come up with this...
- 1. No solid information about the configuration the track was run other then it was run clockwise. batrugger posted some sort of image, but it doesn't really outline the complete configuration.
- 2. The cars were run with a transponder that was logging the times. (batrugger, post #18)
- 3. "the guy who runs the track" said that 1:30 in a MINI has never been done before. (Tuls, post #55)
- 1. What was the track configuration run that day? Can you demonstrate it by taking the track diagram and highlight in red (or some other highly visible color) what the exact path was, paying close attention to the path through the skip pad area as from an aerial view it appears to be just a wide open paved area.
- 2. If the cars were run with transponders then there should be data available listing all the times. Could you post a picture of all the times? Or better yet, were any of the cars running something like the TraqMate? If so you could just post the data file from that which would be readily viewable (and independently verifiable) in the TraqMate software.
- 3. Who is "the guy who runs the track?" Is he a full-time employee there who is present anytime there is something running on the track? Is there any empirical evidence to backup the whole "nobody has run 1:30 in a MINI before?"
. I've never seen the track run any other way. Sometimes they'll change it from clockwise to counterclockwise, but it's almost always run like this (With the other sections blocked off). The funny thing is, we were actually going the slow direction. Traditionally going around the track counterclockwise is faster, because you can use the front straight to get up to 110-120 MPH since you have the skid pad for braking if need be, whereas in a clockwise configuration, it's more like 85-90.
2) The data will be posted on Redline's website (As others have said, it takes time). I don't have the sheet for his run group from that day, Jan may still have it.
3) I have no idea what you're referring to.
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"3. Who is "the guy who runs the track?" Is he a full-time employee there who is present anytime there is something running on the track? Is there any empirical evidence to backup the whole "nobody has run 1:30 in a MINI before?""
I'm not familiar with TraqMate, but I figured it was similar to the other track data acquisition systems on the market.
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1) The track layout was detailed. Batrugger removed the sections of unused track. If you can't follow that, I don't see how drawing a red line through the middle is going to help . I've never seen the track run any other way. Sometimes they'll change it from clockwise to counterclockwise, but it's almost always run like this (With the other sections blocked off). The funny thing is, we were actually going the slow direction. Traditionally going around the track counterclockwise is faster, because you can use the front straight to get up to 110-120 MPH since you have the skid pad for braking if need be, whereas in a clockwise configuration, it's more like 85-90.
. I've never seen the track run any other way. Sometimes they'll change it from clockwise to counterclockwise, but it's almost always run like this (With the other sections blocked off). The funny thing is, we were actually going the slow direction. Traditionally going around the track counterclockwise is faster, because you can use the front straight to get up to 110-120 MPH since you have the skid pad for braking if need be, whereas in a clockwise configuration, it's more like 85-90.
3) I have no idea what you're referring to.
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some pepole have an aptitude and some don't... I have taught, tennis, guitar and several other skills physical and mental and both.... as well as trained hundreds of sales people over the years... some people jump off the charts with aptitude and some people never get it....
Jan has been knee deep in the development of the Mini for years... (see El Diablito) he has not gained this knowledge over the past few months...but over several years at least as long or longer than LDG..... he is applying all of his considerable knowledge gained about the Mini power plant to tuning... and he will continue to get better... he is not tuning Ferraris etc... he is Mini centric.... I have tried to remain neutral in this as I have a lot of respect for you John but perpetrating this line of thinking in my opinion is without merit and is just BS.
(read "Blink" and for that matter I could give you a bibleography)
you know something I learned about Jan at the Atlanta tune session is that he has well over 1000 hrs helo time (helicopter) I don't know how many of you realize the complexity of flying a helicopter but stand on you head and juggle... the fact that Jan can drive is no surprise to me.
I am not a Jan "butt boy" but give the guy credit for the passion and accomplishments... RMW is relatively new but El Diablito has been around for years. I could go on and on about companies who have dismissed brash "newcomers" and disregarded them only to be buried.... Detroit dismissed the Japanese need I go on.
Jan has been knee deep in the development of the Mini for years... (see El Diablito) he has not gained this knowledge over the past few months...but over several years at least as long or longer than LDG..... he is applying all of his considerable knowledge gained about the Mini power plant to tuning... and he will continue to get better... he is not tuning Ferraris etc... he is Mini centric.... I have tried to remain neutral in this as I have a lot of respect for you John but perpetrating this line of thinking in my opinion is without merit and is just BS.
(read "Blink" and for that matter I could give you a bibleography)
you know something I learned about Jan at the Atlanta tune session is that he has well over 1000 hrs helo time (helicopter) I don't know how many of you realize the complexity of flying a helicopter but stand on you head and juggle... the fact that Jan can drive is no surprise to me.
I am not a Jan "butt boy" but give the guy credit for the passion and accomplishments... RMW is relatively new but El Diablito has been around for years. I could go on and on about companies who have dismissed brash "newcomers" and disregarded them only to be buried.... Detroit dismissed the Japanese need I go on.
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At least that's who I understood to make the statement. Jan can correct me if I am wrong.
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he was one of many people that day who were like "WOW those MINIs are fast!"... EVERYONE there that day seemed to know that it was amazing that a MINI went that fast... I was simply saying that if even the guy who runs these things new said.. "man I have never seen a MINI go that fast"
at the time it was becoming a ***** contest for some of the people in the disscusion.. I was like fine... take all of the fan bois out of it.. even "THIS GUY" said he had never seen a mini run that time... etc.. you know.. cause sometimes peope realize not everyone in the world speaks from a bias side... some of us just enjoy success and the success of others...
Hell If I rolled out to cali and spanked jan's time in his own car... or in a slower one... he'd shake my damn hand... and visa versa... some of us know dont have ***** envy...
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So you were in attendance at this event and this is the path you ran?
the "guy who runs the track" was the person who seemed to relate that a 1:30 lap was never run on that track before. So I'm wondering who this mysterious person is and what basis he has for saying what he did.
the "guy who runs the track" was the person who seemed to relate that a 1:30 lap was never run on that track before. So I'm wondering who this mysterious person is and what basis he has for saying what he did.