Time for a timing chain kit
#1
Time for a timing chain kit
This afternoon after playing a round of golf, I started my car and immediately heard what sounded like timing chain slap. I immediately shut the engine off and checked the oil, which was full. Since I couldn't see anything obvious and I was about an hour from home, I restarted the car. The noise was still there but I decided to risk it and drove home. Once in the garage, I pulled the valve cover but everything seemed in pretty good shape with no broken rails or guides. The chain appears tight as well. As the sound was definitely coming from the timing chain area, I will go ahead and replace the parts. I tried finding a kit in Canada but had no success. It seems that I will have to place the order with one of the vendors here on the site.
Before I order, I just want to make sure I am getting everything I need which should be the timing chain kit, and new valve cover gasket set. Is there anything else that I may need?
Thanks,
Before I order, I just want to make sure I am getting everything I need which should be the timing chain kit, and new valve cover gasket set. Is there anything else that I may need?
Thanks,
#3
Chain, guide rails, 2xcam shaft bolts, 1x crank shaft bolt (all new bolts are essential as cannot use old ones). 3xguide rail bolts (or just new seals), uprated chain tensioner, lower sprocket (crankshaft), some replace the vanos/cam sprockets too but not essential. Cam/timing kit with crank holding tool/pin and dummy tensioner. 27mm open end spanner. Angle guage for torque. Crankshaft hub holding tool (make your own by drilling three 9mm holes in something strong enough - google the MINI tool to see what you are looking for). Trolley jack to support engine. New valve cover gasket and gasket sealant for the corners. 4 x straws or wire all same length to put into cylinders to ensure pistons are all alligned.
Methodical instructions. Beer assistant, music, lots of disposable gloves, swear box
Oh and you'll need a new crank shaft hub seal.
Methodical instructions. Beer assistant, music, lots of disposable gloves, swear box
Oh and you'll need a new crank shaft hub seal.
Last edited by Scudder44; 08-08-2018 at 01:22 AM. Reason: add
#4
Dang that’s a chore. I dread the day mine gives up on me. I know I’ll probably end up doing it myself because I just hate paying shop labor on these quirky things.... ten hours labor to replace the turbo? I don’t think so! Lol. I know I’ll eventually need to do my chain as well. Let us know how it goes.... and afterwards share what you’ve learned with the rest of us! Lol. Good luck, I’m eager to hear how it went.
#5
Chain, guide rails, 2xcam shaft bolts, 1x crank shaft bolt (all new bolts are essential as cannot use old ones). 3xguide rail bolts (or just new seals), uprated chain tensioner, lower sprocket (crankshaft), some replace the vanos/cam sprockets too but not essential. Cam/timing kit with crank holding tool/pin and dummy tensioner. 27mm open end spanner. Angle guage for torque. Crankshaft hub holding tool (make your own by drilling three 9mm holes in something strong enough - google the MINI tool to see what you are looking for). Trolley jack to support engine. New valve cover gasket and gasket sealant for the corners. 4 x straws or wire all same length to put into cylinders to ensure pistons are all alligned.
Methodical instructions. Beer assistant, music, lots of disposable gloves, swear box
Oh and you'll need a new crank shaft hub seal.
Methodical instructions. Beer assistant, music, lots of disposable gloves, swear box
Oh and you'll need a new crank shaft hub seal.
Thanks very much for the detailed list. I will do a bit of research to get the best deals I can and order the parts. I hope to get started early next week. (I am playing in a Provincial golf tournament for the next few days)
#7
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#11
Here you go:
Engine Timing Tool Set For BMW N13/N16, Mini Cooper N18 OEM 117 440, 119 340, 496 709, 119 590 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZS14KL..._UB5ABb8522B44
Engine Timing Tool Set For BMW N13/N16, Mini Cooper N18 OEM 117 440, 119 340, 496 709, 119 590 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075ZS14KL..._UB5ABb8522B44
Thanks for the info but I am still a bit confused. Our vendors seem to have different ideas:
https://new.minimania.com/part/G2NME...-r57-2007-2010
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-baum-too...19550plus~btu/
#13
Just a quick update for anyone who may need to do the timing chain on the N16 engine. The timing tool set is indeed the one for the N12/N14 engine. I purchased this one from amazon:
The price is in $Cdn. I did have to sand down the crank pin a bit in order to get it to fit. Everything else worked perfectly. I am still waiting for parts to arrive. Due to the current NAFTA stuff going on, I decided to get everything in Canada to avoid customs hassles.
Updates to follow.
Denis
The price is in $Cdn. I did have to sand down the crank pin a bit in order to get it to fit. Everything else worked perfectly. I am still waiting for parts to arrive. Due to the current NAFTA stuff going on, I decided to get everything in Canada to avoid customs hassles.
Updates to follow.
Denis
#17
Well, I got all the parts and started to put everything back together. Unfortunately the lower left guide bolt snapped off inside the block. I hadn’t even torqued it and it just snapped. I removed the chain cassette again and found that the threaded part of the guide bolt was broken flush with the block. I will see if I can get something in there to cut a groove and try to back it out. Otherwise I will have to drill and try an easy-out.
#19
#20
I picked up the new guide bolt last night and managed to get everything back together today. I was a bit nervous starting it up but everything was fine. I just got back from a 130 km test drive and the car is running perfectly. This was my first time replacing a timing chain but thanks to the great advise here and some of the videos posted online it was relatively straightforward. Other than the guide bolt issue, I didn’t run into any problems.
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