R60 :: Countryman Talk (2010-2015) R60 Cooper and Cooper S hatchback discussion NOT REPAIR RELATED Discussions.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DashLynx

R60 GGGGrrrr......HPFP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-22-2017, 10:09 AM
MiniToBe's Avatar
MiniToBe
MiniToBe is offline
6th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Philadelphia PA
Posts: 4,330
Received 427 Likes on 393 Posts
GGGGrrrr......HPFP

Some of us, if not the most, do not like just replacing parts when they fail. We want to know, at least me, WHY they failed!

So, the big question is, why do the N18 engine HPFP fail? what is about the design that makes it fail?

I tried using N14 solenoid and it did NOT work. I noticed the openings are bigger on the N14 HPFP solenoid.

I three pumps that my R60 does not like and i also have an N14 HPFP that i can spare for this experiment.

any thoughts?
 
  #2  
Old 02-22-2017, 04:07 PM
Minnie.the.Moocher's Avatar
Minnie.the.Moocher
Minnie.the.Moocher is offline
OVERDRIVE
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: earth PNW
Posts: 5,390
Received 570 Likes on 486 Posts
I thought long and hard about the subject until MINI replaced mine for free out of warranty. Gave up and moved on to other subjects.
 
  #3  
Old 02-22-2017, 04:39 PM
popsrcr's Avatar
popsrcr
popsrcr is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The HPFP fails on a lot of BMWs in general. Maybe Germans can't design fuel pumps.
 
  #4  
Old 02-22-2017, 07:07 PM
mikey_t's Avatar
mikey_t
mikey_t is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 913
Received 54 Likes on 50 Posts
Rumor has it that running the tank low on fuel can lead to HPFP failures. I also read on another site that it was the ethanol used in gasoline that causes the failure. I dont recall ever reading exactly what lead to the failures. What i do know is that this has been a problem for BMW and MINI models for about 10 yrs now/

I'm pretty sure this has been discussed here at least a couple of times before this....
 

Last edited by mikey_t; 02-22-2017 at 07:17 PM.
  #5  
Old 02-22-2017, 07:12 PM
MiniToBe's Avatar
MiniToBe
MiniToBe is offline
6th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Philadelphia PA
Posts: 4,330
Received 427 Likes on 393 Posts
What makes it fail? I disassembled one and it had a weird looking grease type and two spring loaded pistons. The mechamical part looked ok and self sustained. The solenoid looked fine although i did not test resistance or operation as a single unit.
 
  #6  
Old 02-22-2017, 07:22 PM
mikey_t's Avatar
mikey_t
mikey_t is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 913
Received 54 Likes on 50 Posts
Here's a site that has 7 theories as to why HPFP's fail; Underhood Service
 
  #7  
Old 02-23-2017, 05:33 AM
MiniToBe's Avatar
MiniToBe
MiniToBe is offline
6th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Philadelphia PA
Posts: 4,330
Received 427 Likes on 393 Posts
Originally Posted by Minnie.the.Moocher
I thought long and hard about the subject until MINI replaced mine for free out of warranty. Gave up and moved on to other subjects.
well. let me pick up where you left off!
 
  #8  
Old 02-23-2017, 05:35 AM
MiniToBe's Avatar
MiniToBe
MiniToBe is offline
6th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Philadelphia PA
Posts: 4,330
Received 427 Likes on 393 Posts
Originally Posted by mikey_t
Here's a site that has 7 theories as to why HPFP's fail; Underhood Service
I read that. I will try and replace the pressure sensor and see if that helps. I already reset the adaptations few times now with same results.
 




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:01 PM.