R60 Exhaust questions.
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Exhaust questions.
So, over the weekend on my 2011 CMs all4 I did the resonator and 2md cat delete, but I have an automatic, and no sport mode button :(.. just the flicking my gear selector to the left and going into " M/S " mode. And I do not get the pops n burbles and it is still pretty quiet, I cannot get rid of the 1st cat due to Canadian emissions laws, and was thinking of getting the megan racing axle back with 4" tips to get some nice loud sounds and some good tones during idle, bit was wondering if anyone has had experience with this exhaust, or possibly the supersprint or anything else? I find almost no videos for CMs for exhaust vids on YouTube and if I do, the audio is crap quality. So just looking for opinions.
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That’s just not fair! C’mon Canada! What you guys can’t pop and burble? Dang! That’s half the fun!
Seriuosly though, I’ve heard good things about Megan, but I’m not sure if I’ve heard one in person. It’s possible, who knows..... so you can’t go fully catless up there, huh? Another thing you may want to look at is a catted hi-flow downpipe instead of the catless ones, that will definitely give you a little more volume and deeper tone. When I went catless, the downpipe changed the tone quite a bit, but didn’t increase the volume too drastically. But when I had the other cat and resonator deleted, it got downright loud.
All jokes aside, I’m kind of surprised that you don’t have a sport button even if they deprogrammed the pops. In my ‘12 R60, the sport button has more functionality than just making it pop. It increases the sensitivity of the throttle, brakes, and steering, as well as stiffening up the suspension a little. I drive in sport all the time for those reasons mainly, the pops are just an added childish thrill for me, lol. I’m blown away that they remove those options as well by taking the button completely out.
I wonder if someone in your situation can just get a new switch-bank or button panel that has the sport button and have it work?? Is it possible that they removed the button but not the functionality? Maybe it’s worth looking into?
Seriuosly though, I’ve heard good things about Megan, but I’m not sure if I’ve heard one in person. It’s possible, who knows..... so you can’t go fully catless up there, huh? Another thing you may want to look at is a catted hi-flow downpipe instead of the catless ones, that will definitely give you a little more volume and deeper tone. When I went catless, the downpipe changed the tone quite a bit, but didn’t increase the volume too drastically. But when I had the other cat and resonator deleted, it got downright loud.
All jokes aside, I’m kind of surprised that you don’t have a sport button even if they deprogrammed the pops. In my ‘12 R60, the sport button has more functionality than just making it pop. It increases the sensitivity of the throttle, brakes, and steering, as well as stiffening up the suspension a little. I drive in sport all the time for those reasons mainly, the pops are just an added childish thrill for me, lol. I’m blown away that they remove those options as well by taking the button completely out.
I wonder if someone in your situation can just get a new switch-bank or button panel that has the sport button and have it work?? Is it possible that they removed the button but not the functionality? Maybe it’s worth looking into?
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so I can technically go into " sport " by pushing my gear selector to the left and go into manual sport mode, and use my flappy paddles to shift, which does increase throttle response and handling and such, it just means like no sport idling or revving as I would always be in atleast 1st gear, but with that damn 1st cat I get no pops, atleast not with stock exhaust, and after much YouTube searching and using intense Google-fu (like king fu) I found vids of straight piped countryman.. SO i decided to not spend $700 on a megan axle back, and I am picking up an ecs vacuum actuated cutout, placing it directly after the 1st cat, so if/when I want to, I hit a button and bam I have essentially a straight pipe mid dump exhaust for fun times, and when I get into trouble I can hit he button and go back into " family " mode. Seemed more logical for my situation, will give me the sound I want for sure, while keeping my exhaust system legal for our stupid laws up north -.-and once I get it installed on the 28th, I'll post up some videos so others can hear, since there are very few countryman exhaust clips.
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No flash so you can see gesr selector.
Flash on to show my buttons available :(no sport mode :(
so, as you can see I currently have the ability to lock my windows, and turno off TC, and then just a bank of empty buttons, though I truely wish I had the sport mode button, I feel ripped off paying for an S model, and not having the damn button lol.. fricking canada
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At least it does increase sensitivity on those things in the sport+ setting. With mine all that does is change it to shift more aggressively or to use the paddles. You still need the button for everything else here. I sent you a PM if you want a short video with my exhaust on it, send me your email.
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Here are a couple of pics. I will make sure to post these to the appropriate thread too, but there's one in there which I think shows the Sport button. This is a Canadian car with km/h speedometer, etc., so unlikely a US-spec car which has been imported. I saw the Carfax report on it in any case.
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see now I am very confused... at first I thought that MAYBE someone just added the sport trim to my car. But nope I searched the VIN and it is factory an S... so why the hell dont I have a sport button -.- this is very upsetting because I've been putting in alot of work to give me like a sport mode of sorts for the car when I push the gear selector left and go into "M/S" mode. I may just cry now
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Here is my option sheet. Maybe there will be some clues in there as to why I have that Sports Mode button? Was it part of the Sport package??
Vin-7/Prefix: WL53937 WMWZC5C52B sales dealer: 79201
Description: COOPER R60 GEFZG AUT LL N18 USA sales country: CA
Multiple Vin-7: No
Engines: N18B16MO
Type: ZC63
Production Date: 02/24/2011
Warranty Start Date: 04/30/2011
Paint: A48 M - Royal Grey Metallic
Upholstery: T6GW - Polar Beige Gravity Leather
Options
Ordered Options
===============
02GT 18" Turbo-Fan Light Alloy Wheels
02P9 Silver Alloy Wheels
02XA Shift Paddles
0205 Automatic Transission
0226 Sport Suspension
0249 Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control
0258 Runflat Tires
0302 Alarm System
0314 Heated Washer Jets and Exterior Mirrors
0322 Comfort Access
0346 Chrome Line Interior
0348 Chrome Line Exterior
0359 Electric Front Window Defroster
0383 Black Roof and Mirror caps
04AA Anthracite Roofliner
04BD Piano Black Interior Trim
04CW Interior Colour Polar Beige
04C1 Colour Line Carbon Black
04UF Sport Button
04U4 2-part Centre Rail
0403 Glass Sunroof
0431 Auto Dimming Interior Mirror
0473 Front Centre Armrest
0494 Heated Front Seats
05DD Car Jack
05DT Dynamic Traction Control
0507 Park Distance Control
0520 Fog Lights
0521 Rain Sensor w/ Auto Headlamps
0522 Bi-Xenon Headlights
0524 Adaptive Headlights
0534 Automatic Cruise Control
0548 Km/h Speedometer
0550 On Board Computer
06ND Media Connect
0655 SIRIUS Satellite Radio Tuner
0674 Harmon Kardon Sound Systems
07L7 Lighthouse
0785 White Turn Signals
08S4 Decoding of Variable Light
0838 Canadian Specifications
0842 Cold Climate Version
Standard Options
=================
0210 Dynamic Stability Control (DSC)
03AR Rear Rack Prep
0325 Rear Spoiler
0386 Roof Rails
0441 Smoker's Package
0450 Passenger Seat Height Adjustment
0481 Sport Seats
0493 Storage Compartment Package
0563 Lights Package
06FC Radio MINI Boost CD
0645 US Radio Specs
0653 High Definition Radio
08SM VIN, visible from outside
0823 Hot-climate version
0845 Acoustic seat-belt warning
0853 Language version English
0876 Radio frequency 315 MHz
0925 Shipping Guard Package
Vin-7/Prefix: WL53937 WMWZC5C52B sales dealer: 79201
Description: COOPER R60 GEFZG AUT LL N18 USA sales country: CA
Multiple Vin-7: No
Engines: N18B16MO
Type: ZC63
Production Date: 02/24/2011
Warranty Start Date: 04/30/2011
Paint: A48 M - Royal Grey Metallic
Upholstery: T6GW - Polar Beige Gravity Leather
Options
Ordered Options
===============
02GT 18" Turbo-Fan Light Alloy Wheels
02P9 Silver Alloy Wheels
02XA Shift Paddles
0205 Automatic Transission
0226 Sport Suspension
0249 Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control
0258 Runflat Tires
0302 Alarm System
0314 Heated Washer Jets and Exterior Mirrors
0322 Comfort Access
0346 Chrome Line Interior
0348 Chrome Line Exterior
0359 Electric Front Window Defroster
0383 Black Roof and Mirror caps
04AA Anthracite Roofliner
04BD Piano Black Interior Trim
04CW Interior Colour Polar Beige
04C1 Colour Line Carbon Black
04UF Sport Button
04U4 2-part Centre Rail
0403 Glass Sunroof
0431 Auto Dimming Interior Mirror
0473 Front Centre Armrest
0494 Heated Front Seats
05DD Car Jack
05DT Dynamic Traction Control
0507 Park Distance Control
0520 Fog Lights
0521 Rain Sensor w/ Auto Headlamps
0522 Bi-Xenon Headlights
0524 Adaptive Headlights
0534 Automatic Cruise Control
0548 Km/h Speedometer
0550 On Board Computer
06ND Media Connect
0655 SIRIUS Satellite Radio Tuner
0674 Harmon Kardon Sound Systems
07L7 Lighthouse
0785 White Turn Signals
08S4 Decoding of Variable Light
0838 Canadian Specifications
0842 Cold Climate Version
Standard Options
=================
0210 Dynamic Stability Control (DSC)
03AR Rear Rack Prep
0325 Rear Spoiler
0386 Roof Rails
0441 Smoker's Package
0450 Passenger Seat Height Adjustment
0481 Sport Seats
0493 Storage Compartment Package
0563 Lights Package
06FC Radio MINI Boost CD
0645 US Radio Specs
0653 High Definition Radio
08SM VIN, visible from outside
0823 Hot-climate version
0845 Acoustic seat-belt warning
0853 Language version English
0876 Radio frequency 315 MHz
0925 Shipping Guard Package
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So, over the weekend on my 2011 CMs all4 I did the resonator and 2md cat delete, but I have an automatic, and no sport mode button :(.. just the flicking my gear selector to the left and going into " M/S " mode. And I do not get the pops n burbles and it is still pretty quiet, I cannot get rid of the 1st cat due to Canadian emissions laws, and was thinking of getting the megan racing axle back with 4" tips to get some nice loud sounds and some good tones during idle, bit was wondering if anyone has had experience with this exhaust, or possibly the supersprint or anything else? I find almost no videos for CMs for exhaust vids on YouTube and if I do, the audio is crap quality. So just looking for opinions.
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Here is my option sheet. Maybe there will be some clues in there as to why I have that Sports Mode button? Was it part of the Sport package??
Vin-7/Prefix: WL53937 WMWZC5C52B sales dealer: 79201
Description: COOPER R60 GEFZG AUT LL N18 USA sales country: CA
Multiple Vin-7: No
Engines: N18B16MO
Type: ZC63
Production Date: 02/24/2011
Warranty Start Date: 04/30/2011
Paint: A48 M - Royal Grey Metallic
Upholstery: T6GW - Polar Beige Gravity Leather
Options
Ordered Options
===============
02GT 18" Turbo-Fan Light Alloy Wheels
02P9 Silver Alloy Wheels
02XA Shift Paddles
0205 Automatic Transission
0226 Sport Suspension
0249 Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control
0258 Runflat Tires
0302 Alarm System
0314 Heated Washer Jets and Exterior Mirrors
0322 Comfort Access
0346 Chrome Line Interior
0348 Chrome Line Exterior
0359 Electric Front Window Defroster
0383 Black Roof and Mirror caps
04AA Anthracite Roofliner
04BD Piano Black Interior Trim
04CW Interior Colour Polar Beige
04C1 Colour Line Carbon Black
04UF Sport Button
04U4 2-part Centre Rail
0403 Glass Sunroof
0431 Auto Dimming Interior Mirror
0473 Front Centre Armrest
0494 Heated Front Seats
05DD Car Jack
05DT Dynamic Traction Control
0507 Park Distance Control
0520 Fog Lights
0521 Rain Sensor w/ Auto Headlamps
0522 Bi-Xenon Headlights
0524 Adaptive Headlights
0534 Automatic Cruise Control
0548 Km/h Speedometer
0550 On Board Computer
06ND Media Connect
0655 SIRIUS Satellite Radio Tuner
0674 Harmon Kardon Sound Systems
07L7 Lighthouse
0785 White Turn Signals
08S4 Decoding of Variable Light
0838 Canadian Specifications
0842 Cold Climate Version
Standard Options
=================
0210 Dynamic Stability Control (DSC)
03AR Rear Rack Prep
0325 Rear Spoiler
0386 Roof Rails
0441 Smoker's Package
0450 Passenger Seat Height Adjustment
0481 Sport Seats
0493 Storage Compartment Package
0563 Lights Package
06FC Radio MINI Boost CD
0645 US Radio Specs
0653 High Definition Radio
08SM VIN, visible from outside
0823 Hot-climate version
0845 Acoustic seat-belt warning
0853 Language version English
0876 Radio frequency 315 MHz
0925 Shipping Guard Package
Vin-7/Prefix: WL53937 WMWZC5C52B sales dealer: 79201
Description: COOPER R60 GEFZG AUT LL N18 USA sales country: CA
Multiple Vin-7: No
Engines: N18B16MO
Type: ZC63
Production Date: 02/24/2011
Warranty Start Date: 04/30/2011
Paint: A48 M - Royal Grey Metallic
Upholstery: T6GW - Polar Beige Gravity Leather
Options
Ordered Options
===============
02GT 18" Turbo-Fan Light Alloy Wheels
02P9 Silver Alloy Wheels
02XA Shift Paddles
0205 Automatic Transission
0226 Sport Suspension
0249 Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control
0258 Runflat Tires
0302 Alarm System
0314 Heated Washer Jets and Exterior Mirrors
0322 Comfort Access
0346 Chrome Line Interior
0348 Chrome Line Exterior
0359 Electric Front Window Defroster
0383 Black Roof and Mirror caps
04AA Anthracite Roofliner
04BD Piano Black Interior Trim
04CW Interior Colour Polar Beige
04C1 Colour Line Carbon Black
04UF Sport Button
04U4 2-part Centre Rail
0403 Glass Sunroof
0431 Auto Dimming Interior Mirror
0473 Front Centre Armrest
0494 Heated Front Seats
05DD Car Jack
05DT Dynamic Traction Control
0507 Park Distance Control
0520 Fog Lights
0521 Rain Sensor w/ Auto Headlamps
0522 Bi-Xenon Headlights
0524 Adaptive Headlights
0534 Automatic Cruise Control
0548 Km/h Speedometer
0550 On Board Computer
06ND Media Connect
0655 SIRIUS Satellite Radio Tuner
0674 Harmon Kardon Sound Systems
07L7 Lighthouse
0785 White Turn Signals
08S4 Decoding of Variable Light
0838 Canadian Specifications
0842 Cold Climate Version
Standard Options
=================
0210 Dynamic Stability Control (DSC)
03AR Rear Rack Prep
0325 Rear Spoiler
0386 Roof Rails
0441 Smoker's Package
0450 Passenger Seat Height Adjustment
0481 Sport Seats
0493 Storage Compartment Package
0563 Lights Package
06FC Radio MINI Boost CD
0645 US Radio Specs
0653 High Definition Radio
08SM VIN, visible from outside
0823 Hot-climate version
0845 Acoustic seat-belt warning
0853 Language version English
0876 Radio frequency 315 MHz
0925 Shipping Guard Package
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