For us noobs What exactly does a CAI do? If I understand it correctly it creates more cold air, keeps engine temps down and nets 5-10 HP?
Is this something any one can install or I have to take it to a shop? I have never done mods to my cars except rims and exhaust and this one will be my first CAI. I have the jcw exhaust already and will get a tune eventually.

 

Until they provide hard data otherwise, gains are usually minimal, if any. Don't expect an easy 5-10 HP.

 

That's certainly a good looking piece and would add to the looks of any engine compartment. Maybe its just the engineering part of me but I fail to see how it provides any cooler or even more air flow than the stock with a high flow panel installed. Does the flapper valve come installed and if so I would think it opens due to vacuum being pulled ? I think I'll take the temp sensor attachment of my Fluke and tape it to the bottom of the stock housing and take it for a ride to what temps it see's.

 

The Performance/Race Version is pictured. Look for the rubber seal at the back of the CAI housing. There is a short snorkel coming out of it that runs to the bulkhead panel.




Also, we still draw-in air from the OEM air inlet.



No, I don't see any issues. We made a 3D model of the OEM airbox before we started designing in CAD. We needed to make sure that our CAI housing did not exceed the dimensions of the OEM airbox -- especially in critical areas like where the strut bar comes across the front edge.



Yes, but unfortunately the R60 bulkhead panels will cost a little more than the R55-thru-R59 bulkhead panels. MINI is charging more for these, so this bumps cost on our end.

A true Cold Air Intake (CAI) gives you a means to draw in air that is as cool or cooler than your OEM airbox.

The primary advantages of a well designed CAI are:
A) A larger (in our case much larger) filter that flows more freely than the OEM filter
-AND-
B) A cool air intake source is isolated and insulated from hot underhood conditions.
-AND-
C) A filter and hose routing that does not allow very turbulent air to enter the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor.

DoS has these 3 design areas in mind when we develop CAI's.

Yes, as always we will send along detailed installation instructions (with lots of photos) via email after your order ships. They will eventually be available at the installation instructions section at defendersofspeed.com.



Our CAI is not an open filter that sits in a sheet metal box and is open to the elements. We've isolated the filter in a carbon fiber & plastic housing that sheds heat very easily. We also connect directly to the OEM Air Inlet Tube and funnel this air directly into the CF airbox. If you want more incoming air, you can opt for the 'Performance/Race' version that cbryantnyc inquired about earlier.

Our filter has 2.6 times the available surface area of any high flow replacement filter for the OEM airbox. Due to the sheer size of this filter alone, there's less restriction as the turbo and engine pull-in much-needed air.

The valve is included with the 'Performance/Race' version of the R60 CAI. It is available as an option for the 'Street' version. On the Performance version, it is part of the snorkel. On the Street version, you place the valve in the rounded nose of the CAI housing. Either way, it's a very easy part to install.

-Clint

 

I see you skipped over my reply regarding performance.

Can you provide any hard data confirming any actual increase in HP or torque? Or is this simply to make the car 'breathe better' and look cool?

 

Hi pidge1114,

Sorry that I did not have a chance to respond to your post right away. I needed a moment to get over to the computer at the shop.

Based on less restrictive nature of the larger filter size alone, buyers should expect to see +6 to +9HP with the street version and +8 to +12HP with the performance/track version.

We only sell engine performance parts that make power gains and our initial housing aerodynamics and filter volume show that we're headed in the right direction. Final dyno testing will happen by late July and we'll have the graphs and charts that everyone craves so much.

In the meantime, I think that it's great that folks love stirring the pot a bit on NAM. Unfortunately, 'Sarcasm is the ugly cousin of anger.' So, I only ask that those who want to learn more do what they can to keep things chill on this thread.

Best,

-Clint

 

Sorry if it comes across as sarcasm, it's just that I didn't see anything regarding true gains with your product, but if you have the dyno to prove it, then kudos to ya.

 

Will the preorders come in at a discount? Does paying $200 now for a preorder save money down the road or is it just to get one of the first ones available?

Really like what I'm seeing so far. Glad you finally got the design sorted out. I'd definitely come check it out at MITM if I was going this year, but I kind of lost interest since they're not doing autocross this year.

 

Is the air filter itself a custom piece as well?

 

Not a problem. We'll post final comparative HP & Tq charts (OEM N18 Airbox-vs.-Production DoS R60 CAI) on NAM and at Defendersofspeed.com as soon as the last set of dyno runs are completed this month.

Yes, the first batch of pre-order R60/R61 CAI's are being sold at a discounted price as a way to thank the R60 and R61 owners that waited.

After MITM 2013 is over (on 08/11/13), the price goes up.

The dry filter media air filter for the DoS R60 CAI is custom, but we've created an adapter kit that allows it to work with many of our competitors' open-filter-element air intakes. -- A dry MAF sensor is a happy MAF sensor.

 

OK, just finished running the numbers:

Pricing for the DoS R60-R61 Street CAI*:

• Introductory/Pre-Order pricing =$326.13
• Price after 8/11/13 =$368.67

*This is the quiet version of the intake with no bulkhead panel cutting involved. If you want your Street CAI to be bit more vocal, select the "Add Noise Baffle" Option on the product page.


Pricing for DoS R60-R61 Performance/Track CAI**:

• Introductory/Pre-Order pricing =$383.78
• Price after 8/11/13 =$433.84

**Product Note: You must cut a hole in your bulkhead panel (or order a pre-modified one from DoS) to install the DoS R60-R61 Performance/Track CAI.

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Since final pricing is determined, we switched from a downpayment to payment-in-full at Intoductory pricing. Here's the link:
http://www.defendersofspeed.com/pre-...s-r60-r61-cai/

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Shipping:

Pre-Orders for Minis in the Mountains (MITM) 2013 attendees will be shipped to the event for customer pickup or installation at the event.

Pre-Orders for customers that will not be attending MITM 2013 will begin shipping-out on 8/14/13.

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Drop me a PM or email if you have any questions.

-Clint

 

Is this baffle to be included with the price $326.13? Or need to pay extra for it?

Thanks

 

The Street CAI comes with a plastic cap on its nosecone. This is the quiet-est option for this kit.

The Noise Baffle is an optional part that you pop-into the Street CAI nosecone if you want it to make more sound yet not be sucking in hot air at lower speeds. It is shown as a $19.44 option on the R60/R61 CAI product page.

The R60/R61 Performance/Track CAI comes with a noise baffle as a standard part. It gets mounted in the snorkel between the CAI housing and the bulkhead.

-Clint

 

Thanks Clint!


i will be Going for the quietest version.
And will order them tonight!

-Cal

 

order placed for the performance/track version


never mind ... i found the buttons to upgrade to the perf/track versionj



thanks Clint

i want the perf/track version ... how do i preorder that?

scott

 

Thanks so much to the folks who placed orders tonight!

 

I'll probably place an order in the morning for the performance version. It's been long time coming, but it looks like it was worth the wait. Hopefully I can get a decent amount for my current VIP intake.

 

Order placed!

August 14 still a long way to go....

 

Hmm...decisions decisions. The street CAI with the baffle for $20 more or the performance CAI for $55 more? Hmmm....

 

Would you guys ship to Canada?

 

Yup, you can place international orders directly through defendersofspeed.com. You just need to select PayPal as your payment method because of our credit card gateway's policies.

 

Hi - thanks for the info!!

Is the hole that's cut in the bulkhead for the performance version a simple circle that's cut with a hole saw, or is it a non-circular shape that requires a more complex cut? If the latter, is there a template (instruction manual page or something) to follow? Thanks!

 

Clint,

Will you have the pre-modified bulkheads up on the website for pre-sale?

 

I'm wondering the same thing.

 

It's a simple hole that you can cut with a hole saw. We include a very easy-to-follow diagram in the instruction manual.


Yup, just added the Pre Modified R60-R61 Bulkhead Panels here:

http://www.defendersofspeed.com/modi...s-r60-r61-cai/


For those who emailed me about how to clean the filter--
The Dry Filter Cleaning Kits that we sell can be found here:

http://www.defendersofspeed.com/filt...o-oil-filters/