Concerning the small amount of rain water entering through the holes in the scoop and under the insulation mat, I would think the heat from the motor and turbo would evaporate the water. I bought the mat and i'm very happy with the results.

 

I remember reading a thread about this in the r56 section a while ago. Apparently 2007-2009 R56 came with the following hood insulation:


But then that insulation went missing for a lot of people in the late 2009-2010 model year.

The insulation woes have been going on for a while. I have the insulation pictured above and it does almost nothing to stop the hood/scoop from getting hot. Atleast they designed something that works this time...

 

Does this insulation have an opening for the air scoop will it fit the coupe?
Its the 03 - 51487266543 part. I am thinking of getting the dealer to install it and the backflow valves for the washer units.

 

There is not an opening for the scoop nor is it recommended to cut the insulation mat. The mat ,if cut open, will shred apart and be useless.

 

Chor, there are 3 options:

51487266543 as in post #151. - large turbo heat reflector at the back of the bonnet, nearest the bulkhead for diesel applications, it seems. (NAM won't let me reattach this image for some reason...)

51487307579 - no turbo heat reflector - image attached

51487334335 - small turbo heat reflector at the front -image attached

 

51487334335 appears to be the right one for the Coupe. My dealer told me it was only available in Europe. So I installed 51487266543 .

 

Yes, ........543 is 'listed' for my 2/12 MCS in UK.

I knew it was wrong regarding turbo position so I found, via RealOEM, the other applications bearing in mind that all the other bonnets apart from the CM had the same part number; so it had to fit.

My most local dealer got mine from Germany (apparently), and warned me, darkly, that he couldn't refund a 'special order' if it didn't fit. But, of course, it did. It was the 'thinking out of the box exercise' that none of the five(!) dealers (that I asked) could cope with; it wasn't in the manual so it couldn't happen...I've had engine cooling fan / thermostat / temp. sensor issues that their manual couldn't cope with after four returns*, so I knew the 'they all run hot / feature of the model' script designed for customer blandishment (IMO) by heart.

I'm running ..........335. It fits, keeps the boonet cool and doesn't cause extra under-bonnet temps. I think it's listed in the UK for the MCS Roadster with bonnet stripes (so why the 'special order'?)

(* they finally replaced the 'stat, sensor + housing which, I believe, has recently become a 'quiet' recall.)

 

Is there a site to order from in the UK for part #335?

 

I just went to my nearest UK main dealer and asked them to get me .....579 as a special order.

(Sorry, it wasn't part ....335. I knew it could be either 335 or 579 and mentally flipped a coin. I would have chosen ...335 if I knew the difference then. Anyway, it still would have been a 'special order from Germany')

I've dealt with 'Chandlers, Worthing' 'Chandlers, Brighton'and 'Cotswold, Gloucester' The latter are good at posting stuff within UK... There's also a group of 'Vines' garages.

 

Thanks for the help. I'm in the USA myself. Is there an online site where you can order the parts?

 

Yes, you can order from Sewell.com. Keep your eyes open for the monthly NAM discount code in the vendors thread.

 

Tried to find 51487334335 - small turbo heat reflector at the front on the Sewell site. Not able to find it. Sighs.

 

They have 51487266543 as I bought it.

 

I have a 2012 JCW Roadster built in 3/12 and came with a Heat insulation hood. The problem began when the the part of the insulation touching the turbo unit started to burn. I brought in to the dealer and service manager was surprise why my car had a heat insulation liner. To make matters worst, they initially could not find the part. After further research I found several part numbers for this insulation:
1. 51487276533 - found this on this site (Part Not Found)
2. 51487307579 - This part number is specifically for the R59 Coop.S JCW Roadster, N14, Europe (SY51) - built in Europe - Mini Dealer cannot find ( but i was able to locate the part on realoem.com
3. 51487266543 - Your Mini dealer can find this part but the "metal mesh" is place at the rear of the insulator not in the front where the turbo unit is located.
Long story short my car is still at the dealer waiting for a resolution to this issue.

 

My Mini Dealer was finally able to replace my damaged hood insulator with an insulator with the heat reflector on my 2012 JCW Roadster. The part number was 51487307579 (see attached pictures). The only issue I have is the new insulator still DOES NOT have an opening for the hood scoop to let air flow to come in. BTW -This part had to be ordered in Europe and it is not available in the US.
As an FYI - while waiting for the correct replacement part, the dealership took off the original hood insulator and I noticed the hood on my vehicle became extremely hot while the vehicle is idling or after the vehicle has been parked for 8 - 10 minutes. Enough heat that I was unable to touch the interior of the hood (between the 2 hood latch up to the center of the hood). I can see how in time this can effect or damage the hood, paint, hood scoop or racing strips. I hope this information helps other Mini S and JCW owners.

 

Attached is a picture of the temporary repair my dealer made until it came unglued 2 days later due to the heat. The second picture you can actual see the burn marks. The dealership eventually took off the hood insulator until the correct replacement part came in.

 

I just purchased a '12 JCW Coupe. I don't take delivery for a couple weeks because the dealer is across the country and I need to fly out to them to drive it home. I had the dealer snap a photo of under the hood and I have the hood insulation with no heatshield on it. Car was born 1/12. Yes it has stripes. Not sure what any of that means....

 

While I am sorry to hear of the insulation burning issue, it takes a wee small load off of my mind. For a moment there, I thought something was wrong with Felix.

The predictable quantity of leaves gathered under his bonnet during Hurricane Sandy and, prior to a rally on Saturday night, I lifted the bonnet to remove the leaves and take some weight off the car. You know - weight matters.

What do I find but evidence of heat - fire - pain - dismemberment. Okay. It's not that bad. But it isn't pretty.

I had purchased the insulation with the heat shield at the rear - as designed for the MINI D and MINI E because it was all we could find. As you can see, there is no heat shield near the front of the bonnet. You can also see the corresponding car parts that cause the insulation to be burned. And that Crispy remark - it applies to an area about 6" in diameter around that mark. That's really not cool. (Pun intended.)

You won't find a bigger MINI fan than me (except of course for the present company) and I'm not trying to sound unpleasant but doesn't this beg the question... If something is hot enough to burn insulation, don't you need insulation to protect your bonnet?

I'm glad to hear that nothing is wrong with Fe, making him run hotter than other MINIs but I am sorry to hear that with evidence of substantial heat, there is still not a simple and reasonable solution to acquiring some type of protection. I'm not entirely clear why it's okay for the inner workings of a machine to do damage to the outer of the machine and for there not to be a solution provided by the manufacturer. I'm happy to pay for a new piece of insulation and to pop the bonnet every day to ensure that my car isn't catching on fire but it kinda seems like something that the manufacturer should be doing, no?

Back to your regularly scheduled discussion.

And thanks to those who've dug up some part numbers. Y'all rock.

 

JL,

Hmmm...I've been toying with the idea of getting insulation or going with a Minifini open grill for the hood scoop to dissipate some of the heat.

A NM heat shield is beginning to look like a better option...

Tim

 

Jen does your insulation allow air to come through the hood scoop?

 

Nope. As far as I know, from the photos I've seen, there is no MINI insulation that allows air to come in the hood scoop. Coupling that info with the fact that there are so few holes in the scoop mesh to begin with and I'm willing to bet that it's fairly negligible. Unless, of course, we're taking into consideration the fact that those few holes allow in just enough water to stem any full-fledged fire from taking place. In which case... Wahoo!!

Seriously, tho. I'm taking the advice of Motorists whose mechanical brains are bigger than mine and going with the NM shield from Way.

Turns out Felix and I were meant for each other after all. We have tons in common. Including the fact that we're our own worst enemies. Apparently, he must be protected from himself at all cost.

 

Hey guys this is not a new issue. on my 2007S I pulled the air blocker out of the scoop making it a functional scoop. I do not have insulation on my current Mini Coupe JCW or on my other 2007 S. I know all my other friends that have mini's had warping of the hood scoop except for me as I put on the M7 Heat deflector (the best IMHO)http://www.m7tuning.com/parts/produc...roducts_id=172 and I did not encounter any warping even at 89K miles.

As for my current coupe I removed the air blocker and have noticed that the fan does not come on as often as it once did --also you can see the heat escaping out of scoop.

Mini rather than putting a deflector on opted for insulation. I would recommend pulling off the insulation then pulling out of the air-blocker out of the scoop and getting the M7 Heat deflector. -- Just my opinion

 

this is what I am running

 

This topic has been dormant for a while. From my experience these full underhood insulators are more for sound. I was searching NAM for "underhood Insulator" after I noticed typical insulator attachment underhood holes you find on most cars. And many cars use these insulators with plastic attachment pins to contain underhood fires (engine catches fire-> Attachment clips melt ->insulator drops over engine).

Anyhow, i'm interested in installing the insulator for quietness, can't stand the idle clatter and I want to get to pure intake & exhaust sound as much as possible. It's not an air cooled Porsche flat-6 so i'm not looking for mechanical sound. Did anyone notice improvements in quietness after installing the insulator?

By the way, my scoop ('10 MCS) is warped. I though the previous owner deformed it by force, glad I ran into this thread...i'm going to dealer soon.

 

I had an '08 Cooper S where the hood got so hot I could probably bake cookies on it. I also had warping of the hood scoop, and my black stripes lost their luster after 2 years from the double sided baking they received.

HOWEVER, my '13 Cooper S Coupe (Production Date Jan/2013) has the pictured insulation under the hood, and I can not find one hotspot on the surface of the hood now. Not one spot! I guess this solved the problem!

Poor iphone pic, but this is the one I have and shows it is Autoneum 7307579