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Squigglesr56 03-19-2019 09:34 AM

2013 mcs with r90 16in rims question
 
im going to install a wilwood 4 pot 11.75 rotor setup on my mini this weekend. my questions are... has anyone used this setup with the r90 16in wheel? if they will fit do i need spacers? i run 5mm now. i know the kit sais it fits 15in wheels but from what i read on here a 15 wont fit newer r56s? is this correct? and i know the kit comes with a fitment guide but i dont really understand how to use it to measure for fitment. any advice or imput would be appreciated thank you

Squigglesr56 03-20-2019 09:31 AM

These are my wheels.
 
These are the wheels i have. Ecs sais they are 16x 6.5 et 48. Someone has to have done this before or atleast tried. Mabey if ecs could chime in they sell them and post here but i tried to email them and have not heard back yet.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...4c8cde1700.jpg

njaremka 03-20-2019 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Squigglesr56 (Post 4457522)
im going to install a wilwood 4 pot 11.75 rotor setup on my mini this weekend. my questions are... has anyone used this setup with the r90 16in wheel? if they will fit do i need spacers? i run 5mm now. i know the kit sais it fits 15in wheels but from what i read on here a 15 wont fit newer r56s? is this correct? and i know the kit comes with a fitment guide but i dont really understand how to use it to measure for fitment. any advice or imput would be appreciated thank you

To use the fitment template, make a paper outline from the measurements provided by the brake company, and hold them to the inside of the wheel. If the paper template hits the rim, try adding spacer thickness to the template, and try again.

https://www.racetechnologies.com/art...rake-clearance

ECSTuning 03-20-2019 10:40 AM

Yep, i dont know anyone running those R90's with Wilwoods., other brakes like JCW single pots and stuff yes. Best would be a template and then measure to be sure.

Squigglesr56 03-25-2019 04:02 AM

After test fitment.
 
Sooo i was going to test fit n hopefully install the kit on saturday. But good ol new england weather stepped in and it snowed friday night. So i had a lil extra time on sunday and figured id give them a test fit. I removed the caliper bracket slid off the capiler and bracket zip tied them out of the way so i could fit my wheel on. Next was the rotor which was a nightmare! I tried to use my impact screwdriver to remove the screw didnt move. Sprayed sum pb blaster let it soak and tried no luck. Tried my small hand torch next didnt work. I had to drill it out so that took quite a while and was getting late. But i threw on the wilwood rotor and caliper and put on the wheel. I didnt have a micrometer to measure but there is about a quarter of an inch if not more room between the caliper and wheel. The caliper to spokes is quite close the barly fits i have 5 mil spacers now so that wont be a issue! So im glad to say if weather is nice i will put them on completly on saturday. i will post pics when done!

ECSTuning 03-25-2019 07:11 AM

Thanks for the update. Hopefully the weather will change here soon, i am ready for spring, tired of snow.

Squigglesr56 04-04-2019 05:53 AM

I installed the kit this weekend install went pretty well besides the bolts holding the rotor had to be drilled out. I pounded them for a while n threw in the towel. They look great. U cant really notice until u get up to the car which i like. My only dislike so far is the dust. I thought the pads in the kit i believe bp 10 they were called said low dust but def not! They do fit perfect under the wheels and just put on a new set of firehawk indy 500s yesterday also. So i hope this weekend will b nice and i can find sum twisties to play in!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...6a0516b903.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...95dee9d135.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...acd2ca9f9f.jpg

njaremka 04-04-2019 06:36 AM

That is the 11.75" kit? Looks good!

Squigglesr56 04-04-2019 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by njaremka (Post 4461273)
That is the 11.75" kit? Looks good!

Yes thats the 11.75 kit and thanks i like the dl look they almost look stock.

njaremka 04-04-2019 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Squigglesr56 (Post 4461278)
Yes thats the 11.75 kit and thanks i like the dl look they almost look stock.

They pretty much are. The stock S rotors are 11.6". This kit just add a 4-piston caliper. Can I ask what you paid for that kit?

Squigglesr56 04-04-2019 07:24 AM

I bought them from thm mororsports i think. i paid around 800. I bought them like 4 months ago during winter they may have been on sale then

ECSTuning 04-12-2019 06:21 AM

I really like those R90s in the 16". looks good.

WestCoastD 12-15-2022 10:42 PM

Are there OEM R90 wheels available in black? If so where?

I have 2009 Mini Cooper S hardtop coupe. Has 16 inch silver OEM wheels.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...8c88a1bca.jpeg

ECSTuning 12-16-2022 06:52 AM

No, they only came in silver. You would have to paint them.

They are now sold out. We had the last new stock in the world.

https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/SiteSearch/ES65024/

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/156551_x800.webp


This is what we have left:

https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2005-...ls/OEM_Wheels/

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/641919_x800.webp



Some wheels are down to the 150 ish range that were 350 a piece.

WestCoastD 12-16-2022 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 4639878)
No, they only came in silver. You would have to paint them.

They are now sold out. We had the last new stock in the world.

This is what we have left:

https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2005-...ls/OEM_Wheels/

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/641919_x800.webp



Some wheels are down to the 150 ish range that were 350 a piece.

thanks! Are the black spoke wheels Mini OEM wheels? And are these the only 16" Mini OEM black-coated wheels available? Are there other styles in 16" OEM black-coated wheels available?


How about these?
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...h/36116793404/

DogfaceSGM 12-18-2022 05:57 AM

My Coupe has the Silver R119 rims. I know they came in black as well. I think they were available in flat or gloss black as I have seen both.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...d084ded6d7.jpg
I did a quick search on ECS's webpage, they have matt black, black or silver available. Since the helmet on my Coupe is silver, I think the silver looks best on my car. I bought a used set of silver R119 from a NAM member last summer. I took the best 2 of those along with my best 2 and made them my summer rims. The other 4 are my winter rims. I had two with some pretty bad road rash and one of the purchased rims had been painted and the other had a chip not quite the size of a dime on it. You might do a search and find some used but, do not expect perfection on a used set of rims. Still not bad for the price, 4 rims for $350.

WestCoastD 12-18-2022 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by DogfaceSGM (Post 4640021)
My Coupe has the Silver R119 rims. I know they came in black as well. I think they were available in flat or gloss black as I have seen both.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...d084ded6d7.jpg
I did a quick search on ECS's webpage, they have matt black, black or silver available.

thanks!

so you’re saying ECS Tuning has the rims (pictured above) in black? And they are a fitment for R56 ?

DogfaceSGM 12-18-2022 12:08 PM

Should be. As I understand it, about anything for the R56 also works on my R58. Go to their site and add your vehicle then search for R119, that should give you a fit or not fit in the products window.

Seen your car in the Bilstein thread. The gloss black would go nicely with your black top.

WestCoastD 12-18-2022 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by DogfaceSGM (Post 4640047)
Should be. As I understand it, about anything for the R56 also works on my R58. Go to their site and add your vehicle then search for R119, that should give you a fit or not fit in the products window.

Seen your car in the Bilstein thread. The gloss black would go nicely with your black top.

exactly! It would go much nicer with black rims, having a black top. They just look good in black. I never really cared much for the silver package that came stock- boring.

so I just checked the (ECS) site, and confirmed they do stock the R119 style, in black. I actually really like the double spoke design. Is that price actually for 4 rims ($274.48) ?

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...h/36116856969/

DogfaceSGM 12-18-2022 12:41 PM

That would be each, not for a set. Like I say, you might be able to find some used. My set was $350 used with two in great shape, two in decent.

Here is the classified link to the set I bought
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ver-350-a.html

DogfaceSGM 12-18-2022 12:47 PM

You could also look for silver or take your stock silver and see if there is a powder coating business near you that could do them gloss black and what they would charge to do so.

DogfaceSGM 12-18-2022 01:31 PM

Not very flattering pictures but these are in the market place.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co.../market/360583

He is only approximately 2.5 hours from you also. Might be worth some PM's back and forth.

WestCoastD 12-18-2022 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by DogfaceSGM (Post 4640055)
You could also look for silver or take your stock silver and see if there is a powder coating business near you that could do them gloss black and what they would charge to do so.

appreciate your help.

yeah, I considered re-powder coating my silver rims to black, but too much of a hassle. And I’m not into buying used rims (as you really don’t know what they were subjected to by previous owner).

I will consider buying new rims. I’ve gotten a lot of use out of the stock (silver) rims- like 14 years


ECSTuning 12-19-2022 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by WestCoastD (Post 4639928)
thanks! Are the black spoke wheels Mini OEM wheels? And are these the only 16" Mini OEM black-coated wheels available? Are there other styles in 16" OEM black-coated wheels available?


How about these?
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...h/36116793404/


Hello,

Those are genuine MINI wheels 100% ( Genuine MINI logo ) they are bigger and other ones are 16". We have some others 16" more selection in the 17" section.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...ls-oem_wheels/

Thanks
Mike

WestCoastD 12-19-2022 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by ECSTuning (Post 4640107)
Hello,

Those are genuine MINI wheels 100% ( Genuine MINI logo ) they are bigger and other ones are 16". We have some others 16" more selection in the 17" section.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...ls-oem_wheels/

Thanks
Mike

thank you!



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