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zemina Nov 30, 2009 11:24 AM

2010 MINI's Xenon not auto-adjusting
 
Hello,

I have another question about our 2010 MINI S.

First, Xenon lights. I have read many posts here about Xenon's auto leveling feature when turned on but I noticed our MINI's Xenon lights do not auto adjust up and down when turned on. Is that also 2010 MINI things? or they are wrong?

Second, muffler tips. I noticed that they are not in center is that also adjustable? - I don't have a pic for now I will update the pic later -


Thanks in advance.

Robin Casady Nov 30, 2009 12:01 PM

I was under the impression that auto-leveling was a legal requirement for Xenon lights. I may be wrong.

Anyway, I don't notice my Xenons my 2007 Xenons adjusting when turned on. I do know that they have auto-leveling because I've seen the unit attached to the suspension that determines the level.

Not sure what you mean by tail pipes not being in center. Photos required.

Julien321 Nov 30, 2009 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Robin Casady (Post 2926556)
I was under the impression that auto-leveling was a legal requirement for Xenon lights. I may be wrong...

I believe that it's a Europe law requirement (and washers too) and not DOT or any state law. Also besides leveling when you start they are also dynamically leveling.

zemina Nov 30, 2009 12:18 PM

I changed the title.

I thought any MINI with Xenon lights have that feature so they should adjust every time I start MINI. I meant I am not sure how to say, when Xenon lights are first turned on and not even changed colors yet, the lights should self-adjust in elevation? am I right?

And muffler tips - I mean the tailpipes - they are slightly off center I will upload picture later.

iwashmycar Nov 30, 2009 12:24 PM

they should do the dip thing i would think unless they just slighty level out now.

yeah everything should definately be centered up... probably an easy fix w the hangers

Julien321 Nov 30, 2009 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by zemina (Post 2926575)
I thought any MINI with Xenon lights have that feature so they should adjust every time I start MINI. I meant I am not sure how to say, when Xenon lights are first turned on and not even changed colors yet, the lights should self-adjust in elevation? am I right?

Yes, the shutter starts low goes high then levels. Are you sure you have Xenon's? The pic in your sig is of Halogen's but it looks like it's probably your other MINI.


Originally Posted by zemina (Post 2926575)
And muffler tips - I mean the tailpipes - they are slightly off center I will upload picture later.

Yours must have been assembled in Britain.:eek2::nod::lol:

MINIDean Nov 30, 2009 12:44 PM

My 2010 xenons auto adjust when i turn them on, but if I turn them off, and then back on they don't. But I do see them adjust when I take off from a stop if there is a car in front of me. Try turning the car off and waiting a bit. I'm sure they are adjusting, you're just not noticing it.

zemina Nov 30, 2009 01:10 PM

Here is the picture.

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...tled-1copy.jpg

I think they are slightly off center :roll:

litebrite2001 Nov 30, 2009 01:42 PM

Mine only adjust when starting the car with the headlights on. If I turn them on while the car is running, they just do the cool flash and warm-up common to HIDs. If I leave them on, the next time I start the car, they raise and lower as some kind of checkout sequence. Either way, they auto level anytime I accelerate or brake.

NjMCS Nov 30, 2009 02:07 PM

I believe the Xenons recenter themselves when you first start the car, whether they are on or off. After that point they continuously adjust to level out, but it's hardly noticeable.

zemina Nov 30, 2009 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by Julien321 (Post 2926585)
Yes, the shutter starts low goes high then levels. Are you sure you have Xenon's? The pic in your sig is of Halogen's but it looks like it's probably your other MINI.


Yours must have been assembled in Britain.:eek2::nod::lol:

Yep, I just changed my sig with a new picture :)

KevinC Nov 30, 2009 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by zemina (Post 2926623)
Here is the picture.
I think they are slightly off center :roll:

Can't tell from that picture, because it's not taken from directly behind - you shot it from slightly off to the left. Shoot another from directly behind and we'll have a better idea.

zemina Nov 30, 2009 06:21 PM

I got to chance to check the Xenon lights and they are working... I just did not notice they were working. Thanks all replies.

Yeah, I took an another picture, but I think it won't hurt.... I am going to ask SA about this issue in a few days.

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/...i/IMG_0769.jpg

koitus Nov 30, 2009 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by zemina (Post 2926849)
I got to chance to check the Xenon lights and they are working... I just did not notice they were working. Thanks all replies.

Yeah, I took an another picture, but I think it won't hurt.... I am going to ask SA about this issue in a few days.

Looks to me like you're right. And the muffler sags a bit to the right. Looks like it's not mounted on-center. I haven't scrutinized mine...maybe I should.

C H I C K L E T Dec 1, 2009 06:03 AM

Yeah zem...it looks off center. My xenons auto adjust. You might want to have that checked as well.

iwashmycar Dec 1, 2009 06:20 AM

I got in my car last night after work and noticed when i turned the lights on they didnt adjust either... but usually they do. Maybe its just every once in a while.

My initial thought was they dont with the ebrake on, but i havnt tested that theory

Julien321 Dec 1, 2009 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by iwashmycar (Post 2927084)
...My initial thought was they dont with the ebrake on, but i havnt tested that theory

Not a very good theory since the ebrake system (on most cars) is a very basic system (keep it as simple and reliable as possible) with little involved except a manually connected cable to the rear brakes and an in line switch to activate the idiot LED.

Why on earth would the Xenon lighting system be involved or connected in any way to the ebrake when it doesn't even connect to the brake lights?:confused::lol:

Robin Casady Dec 1, 2009 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Julien321 (Post 2927175)
Why on earth would the Xenon lighting system be involved or connected in any way to the ebrake when it doesn't even connect to the brake lights?:confused::lol:

In some situations, releasing the ebrake can change the angle of the car. That could cause the Xenons to adjust--giving the impression that the two are connected. This is my theory on his theory.

TheBigNewt Dec 1, 2009 12:32 PM

If you leave the lights at Auto you can always tell they dip when you start the car (in the dark of course). A least I can.

iwashmycar Dec 1, 2009 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Robin Casady (Post 2927191)
In some situations, releasing the ebrake can change the angle of the car. That could cause the Xenons to adjust--giving the impression that the two are connected. This is my theory on his theory.


pretty much. I know mine squats down a lot with the ebrake on..granted the lights should just self adjust out once released.

and Julien that simple idiot light could just as easily tell the damn headlights to not adjust... simple

jessicaledw Dec 1, 2009 06:40 PM

My guess, and this is strictly a guess, is that you're starting off on a level surface so the car doesn't need to adjust. My garage is not level. When I put my car in reverse, I practically fly out of the garage. I could hit 8-9 mph right as my front bumper is clearing the garage door if I didn't use my brake. If you're on level ground why would it need to adjust? I agree that your tail pipes are off. But your car is awesome. I love that color combo!

Spice Orange JCW Dec 1, 2009 09:04 PM

The lights do not auto adjust by turning them on. They auto adjust on car start. If you do not have the lights on right away you will not see it. If you start your car and then turn on the lights on later they will not do the auto adjust.

Robin Casady Dec 1, 2009 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by 2008 Cooper S (Post 2927673)
The lights do not auto adjust by turning them on. They auto adjust on car start. If you do not have the lights on right away you will not see it. If you start your car and then turn on the lights on later they will not do the auto adjust.

That's why I've never noticed it. I usually turn the lights off before killing the engine. I don't like firing the ignighters unnecessarily, and never know whether the next time I drive will be day or night. The auto headlight setting always thinks it is night in my garage, so I never use auto.

Julien321 Dec 2, 2009 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by Robin Casady (Post 2927676)
... I don't like firing the ignighters unnecessarily, and never know whether the next time I drive will be day or night...

The igniter is just a simple capacitor and should outlast the car by many years. The ballast would likely wear out/fail before the igniter and both should have a MTBF several times the lamp's 10,000 hour rating. All available info seems to point to HID's as being almost "bullet proof" in OEM implementation. If you can provide some contrary info please post it but I wouldn't (don't) worry about how many starts or how long I use my HID's. Also this is my 4th car with them and have been using HID's since 2001 (S2000).

RVExotics Dec 2, 2009 05:26 AM


My initial thought was they dont with the ebrake on, but i havnt tested that hypothesis

Not a very good hypothesis

This is my hypothesis on his hypothesis.
Fixed :thumbsup: Sorry, the science teacher in me just couldn't resist.


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