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Hopefully it doesn’t make it harder! But oil leaks might blend right in lol
Today I finished assembling the block I installed pistons, oil pump, and oil pan. I still need to install 7 exhaust valves into the head and that will be done. I just ordered the turbo oil supply line and oil cooler gaskets once those arrive it should be ready to drop back in the vehicle.
I finally got the cylinder head put back together and installed on the block. I need to torque the head bolts and install timing components then it will be assembled and I can start transferring all other parts
So I haven’t been able to post updates lately but I’ve gotten a few more things done.
The head is torqued down, I got the timing all set up, and I’m transferring everything else now. I also received my new clutch. I should be done and ready to drop it in soon
So I finished everything up this last Friday and have been driving it all weekend I’ve put about 250 miles on it and everything has been great! My girlfriend and my dog both love it. Now it does need a few other things like struts, brakes, and tires but they’re good enough for now all that will come soon
Thank you! Yea he’s definitely loving it n his old puppy bed fit back there perfect
yea its real easy to start getting up there in prices with these things
Its loud but not as loud as I had expected I’m pretty happy with the sound so I think I’ll be leaving it the way it is
No problem I’m glad they helped I personally love build threads filled with pictures so I try to make mine the same
That piston from your vehicle was definitely toast wow. Was it overheated at all is the head warped? How are all the other cylinders? You may want to look into replacement cylinder sleeves I believe sealed power makes them for these blocks but I can’t even imagine how much installing those would cost
I am personally loving the rings I haven’t had any issues with them. I definitely feel a considerable increase in overall performance. It’s been about 800 miles since my last oil change and it’s consumed just under half a quart which I wouldn’t consider bad and I’m heavy on the pedal. It’s completely stock except for the straight pipe exhaust with the original valve cover (I believe there is an updated version) and I did not install a reduced orifice in the pcv tube like total seal recommended so all that may account for the oil consumption but I don’t consider it excessive. I have yet to do a compression test on it to compare it to stock specs but I will do that soon.
No problem I’m glad they helped I personally love build threads filled with pictures so I try to make mine the same
That piston from your vehicle was definitely toast wow. Was it overheated at all is the head warped? How are all the other cylinders? You may want to look into replacement cylinder sleeves I believe sealed power makes them for these blocks but I can’t even imagine how much installing those would cost
I am personally loving the rings I haven’t had any issues with them. I definitely feel a considerable increase in overall performance. It’s been about 800 miles since my last oil change and it’s consumed just under half a quart which I wouldn’t consider bad and I’m heavy on the pedal. It’s completely stock except for the straight pipe exhaust with the original valve cover (I believe there is an updated version) and I did not install a reduced orifice in the pcv tube like total seal recommended so all that may account for the oil consumption but I don’t consider it excessive. I have yet to do a compression test on it to compare it to stock specs but I will do that soon.
All the other cylinders are fine and the head looks fine but my machinist will deck the head. The previous owner did not say anything about over heating just running rough and then shutting down.
Hopefully Total Seal will have the specs to your order when it comes time for me to buy rings. I know they have several different kinds of rings, which one did you get? If you don't mind me asking, how much did it set you back? You can PM me the answer if it makes you more comfortable. Thanks.
I really enjoyed this thread and the right-up and pictures were fantastic!
Just one comment is that I've been using Total Seal both off the shelf and custom rings for long than a lot of you young guys have been out of diapers. I had one race motor that lasted 6 drag seasons without a tear down and it could have gone more except the bearings were starting to disappear. Really a great product! One other thing is that I believe your oil consumption would have been a lot less with the reduced orifice in the PCV tube.
Thank you!
I have heard great things about total seal for a while now and have always wanted to try them. I am definitely pleased with these rings and I don’t even consider that amount of consumption excessive. It’s below what bmw’s consumption standards are and honestly the more I’ve been driving the less oil consumption I have been seeing so I might leave it like it is for now.
With our Nickasil lined cylinders you have beat on it for about 30 minutes to seat properly. Don't baby it, but don't hold it at redline either. Get a good strong heat cycle on it under varying loads. But you have to do it then. Later on is not nearly as effective. Once TS rings have a good heat cycle on them it's very hard to get them to change their mind. Apparently TS now has a dry powder assembly lube to aid the seating process. Think I'll have to give that a shot on my next build.
BMW switched from Nikasil to Alusil a while back and that is only for aluminum blocks with unlined cylinders. The Prince engines are aluminum blocks with cast iron cylinder liners. I know the n20 uses Alusil and the b48 has some sort of plasma liner I believe so you may be thinking of those engines.
Yea they tried selling me on that when I picked up my rings but I’m cheap it definitely sounds like a neat product. I’ve never had an issue seating rings from cheap sets so I didn’t think I’d have an issue with total seal. I did beat on it quite a bit since I first started it (and continue to everyday) since total seal recommended a bit of spirited driving to seat the rings well. All my previous builds I’ve eased into driving hard but have done the complete opposite with this one. Since the first drive I’ve done nothing but beat on it and it’s loving every minute
Thanks. Good to know on the Nickasil. When I was discussing their MID sleeves with Darton they mentioned something about it so I assumed that's what we had. Total-seal said the same to me for break-in and a couple of other builders concurred. I haven't found anyone that's used the powder yet but I plan on giving it a go.
Yea no problem I’m no expert I just started learning about those as of lately since I’ve recently cracked open an n63b44 (that had low compression) so I’ve had to do some reading on these types of cylinders since they require some extra steps and tools when honing. I’m getting parts priced out for that build which I’m doing for a customer. Im thinking of using total seal for the n63 since stock replacement ring sets are about $90 per hole from bmw. Maybe then I could give that powder stuff a shot.
But anyways, when you spoke with darton did you by chance ask how much some custom sleeves would be for these Prince engines? I’m interested in doing a big bore 1.8 maybe even 2.0 if bore size could be accommodated.
The Darton sleeve kit is P/N 800-800. Cost is about $1,200. Then the cost to machine and install. Mazworx in Orlando quoted me $1,200 to hot-tank, machine, install the sleeves, deck, stress relieve the block. and bore to total seal specs. A little pricey but I trust the quality of their work. There are certainly cheaper options such as closing the deck but by sleeving you basically create a block with an unlimited life.
Spacing between cylinders is about .280 so really not much room for bore increase. Luckily still plenty of room to o-ring the block and head.
Quick update!
still running great no leaks or issues so far
I put r85 wheels on it with bf goodrich 215/45/17s
i also got the f56 style headlights which I think look amazing. I still need to get the windows tinted and the hood stripes replaced
02-01-2018, 04:09 PM
