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miniCPA 01-16-2018 04:40 PM

Spare Tire in a R52
 
The prior owner replaced the run-flat tires with Cooper CS5 Ultra Touring tires which I think are non-run-flats. This saved me the trouble of replacing the run-flats myself. How are other Cooper S owners who have ditched the run-flats dealing with the combination of the lack of run-flats and the lack of a spare?

My plan is to sacrifice the trunk in exchange for a spare. My questions are:

Does the "micro spare tire and wheel" temporary spare available for MINIs fit in the trunk of the R52 Convertible?

Is the little jack that is in the trunk sufficient for an emergency tire change? Should I upgrade it or put a piece of plywood in the trunk as well?

I appreciate your thoughts.

Whine not Walnuts 01-16-2018 05:14 PM

IMO you are not going to get the micro spare in the vert rear trunk. Whereas I had that spare in my R53 being able to stand it up and strap it to the back of the rear seat, the vert shelf is not up high enough. I have a pump, some plugs and a can of green slime.

Whine not Walnuts 01-16-2018 05:40 PM

Might be able to angle the tire but then it would take up too much space for me at least. The problem is you would need the actual unit to try.

WayMotorWorks 01-16-2018 06:55 PM

I would just get the dounut spare and put it on the floor behind the pass seat.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/mini-s...ire-wheel.html

miniCPA 01-16-2018 07:24 PM

Thanks for the feedback.

I was OK giving up the trunk space for a spare. Putting the spare in the footwell of the back seat would likely take too much space from the passenger and eliminate room for additional passengers. I also am concerned with the text "This spare is intended to be used on the Rear of your MINI when used. This will prevent transmission damage, and allow you to drive safely. Also this may not clear all front brake calibers, but clears the rear brakes no problem."

Option 2 is to get a used full size wheel / tire and call a friend to make a delivery if I ever need it.


Anybody find any other solution?

Fly'n Brick 01-16-2018 08:36 PM

https://www.griotsgarage.com/product...fType=&from=fn
This is what I carry and the bag has room for an extra qt of oil, some cleaning supplies for road trips and a fool jug for a short snort at the end of the day.
I've used the supplied jack and it works OK but doesn't provide a great deal of confidence.

Whine not Walnuts 01-17-2018 04:32 AM

I have seen an exterior type spare carrier that would attach into a trailer hitch type bracket. Would work better on a hatch than a vert. Not kinda but definitely funky looking.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...1d93a2512a.jpg

rkw 01-17-2018 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by miniCPA (Post 4360590)
Is the little jack that is in the trunk sufficient for an emergency tire change?

Yes, I have used it for wheel rotation on an R52. At the jack point, both tires on one side will be lifted up.


Originally Posted by miniCPA (Post 4360647)
I also am concerned with the text "This spare is intended to be used on the Rear of your MINI when used. This will prevent transmission damage, and allow you to drive safely. Also this may not clear all front brake calibers, but clears the rear brakes no problem."

I don't remember if the spare clears the stock S front brakes. If it doesn't, the usual solution is to transfer the rear wheel to the front and put the spare in the rear. This isn't unusual for upgraded and aftermarket brakes.

miniCPA 01-17-2018 07:51 AM

rkw

For tire rotations and putting winter tires on my daily driver, I purchased a floor jack and a better wrench. I am convinced the jacks in cars today were intended as single use.

If the entire side is lifted, the double tire change should be much easier.

Minnie.the.Moocher 01-17-2018 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by miniCPA (Post 4360734)
rkw

For tire rotations and putting winter tires on my daily driver, I purchased a floor jack and a better wrench. I am convinced the jacks in cars today were intended as single use.

If the entire side is lifted, the double tire change should be much easier.

Agree, wouldn't trust the provided jacks. With a tire change you aren't crawling under the car usually. Although I can see the scenario where you drop a lug bolt or something and crawl under to retrieve it while the jack decides to slip or give out. No thanks I think I'll skip using one of those.

With these cars you can lift front or rear side with a good floor jack and change both tires, putting a stand underneath is a good practice as well, never know when that pressure relief valve decides to blow.

gsfent 01-17-2018 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts (Post 4360693)
I have seen an exterior type spare carrier that would attach into a trailer hitch type bracket. Would work better on a hatch than a vert. Not kinda but definitely funky looking.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...1d93a2512a.jpg

If I was going to go to the trouble of mounting a spare tire carrier, I would just use a full size wheel. I mean, how much uglier would it be??? ;)

I simply carry a can of goo and a tire inflator. Only issue would be a broken valve stem, but then AAA is the backup. In all the years, that has happened exactly 1 time.

Regards,
Jerry

miniCPA 01-17-2018 01:20 PM

Jerry,

I agree on all counts. A full size spare on the back of a MINI would look much better. It would still not look good but much better.

I have only had a flat tire once my self. Ironically, the thought never crossed my mind to change the tire. I was in a home depot parking lot and bought a pump and filled it. I had to stop on the way home and do it a second time. The problem was not the tire, it was the valve cap that had a nub in it that pushed on the valve.

If I can get a spare in the trunk, I am going with a spare. Otherwise I will get the goo stuff and forget about it.

Another important factor is to not let the tires get too old.

Fly'n Brick 01-17-2018 03:35 PM

How to tell if your tires are getting too old.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret....jsp?techid=11

MINIAC 01-17-2018 03:42 PM

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MINI FINI Sport Link + Spare Link for carrying full size spare on rear ...

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miniCPA 01-19-2018 08:18 PM

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I have moved on from the spare tire concept. However, based on the discussion, I am buying a few jack stands for tire rotations and any other work I attempt on my own. It is a small cost for the added security.

Mini s r52 05-02-2018 06:47 AM

dude the spare fits in trunk
 
Just so you know i have a mini cooper s R52 2008.The spare tire does fit in the trunk behind the back seat standing straight up.you have to raise the back shelf it has extra position a few inches higher than the stock height(purposely done to fit luggage etc.).The only drawback is that you cannot put the top all the way down,only sunroof style.there is a safety where when you put the shelf up on the higher position it will not allow you to put the top all the way down which is good because the tire is to high and the rear windshield(glass) could break.That's a good solution for the winter but summer just buy a nice cover for spare and put it in the back set.By the way im not talking about a full size spare but the donut everyone has for the mini.

drea-min 05-02-2018 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts (Post 4360606)
IMO you are not going to get the micro spare in the vert rear trunk. Whereas I had that spare in my R53 being able to stand it up and strap it to the back of the rear seat, the vert shelf is not up high enough. I have a pump, some plugs and a can of green slime.

Plus 1...
I carry the spare tire strap in the back seat...

miniCPA 05-02-2018 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Mini s r52 (Post 4387145)
...The only drawback is that you cannot put the top all the way down,...

Not being able to put the top down defeats the purpose of the convertible. I decided to go with a can of fix-a-flat, Roadside assistance and a cell phone. Next problem is the fact that the roads that are the most fun in the MINI are the least likely to have cell service. I will figure that one out if I ever get stuck.

DaGriz 05-07-2018 04:58 PM

I wondered if the Mini spare would fit if deflated. I carry a pump, fix a flat and tire repair tools

TRAVR6 05-07-2018 06:32 PM

My spare tire. I will deal with the mess later.https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...ce23e0f1dc.jpg

A set of tire plugs also.
A can of fix a flat should get you at least to a populated location off the highway where you can deal with the problem.

Whine not Walnuts 05-09-2018 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by DaGriz (Post 4388589)
I wondered if the Mini spare would fit if deflated. I carry a pump, fix a flat and tire repair tools

This might work but IMO you would have to ratchet type strap to compress the sidewalls and with that type of tire I wonder whether it would deform it thereby causing it to thump bad when inflated/driven.

nosliwnaes 05-11-2018 11:02 AM

The space saver spare in a bag that you can buy from Outmotoring and a few other vendors fits perfectly behind the passenger's seat.

ItsmeWayne 05-13-2018 06:03 AM

I have a nice 12 volt air compressor and patch kit in all of my Minis.


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https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/20c...0&odnBg=FFFFFF

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ItsmeWayne 05-13-2018 06:09 AM

I don't want some ugly tire hanging off the back of my car!!! I just can't go there!

miniCPA 05-13-2018 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by nosliwnaes (Post 4389596)
The space saver spare in a bag that you can buy from Outmotoring and a few other vendors fits perfectly behind the passenger's seat.

My kids fit perfectly behind the passenger's seat! Well perfectly is an exaggeration but they wouldn't fit at all if there was a spare in the back. I also question the room in the front passenger's seat if it was pushed up to accommodate a spare tire in the back.


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