Someone told me this morning that Toyota is coming out with a new "cute" vehicle that is supposed to be their answer to the MINI. It's supposedly a mini, minivan. What the he**? How is that the answer to the MINI? Because it's small? Besides, MINI didn't pose a question?

Does anyone know about this Toyota version of the MINI?

There are two vehicles, and they will be a spin-off brand from Toyota, called the Scion. I think California will see them this year, and the rest of the country will get them next year. They are quite ugly from what I've seen.

Butt ugly from what I've seen.

Yup, so darn boxy ugly that they had to fill the rear with massive speakers just to get anyone to look at it durring the recent auto show. Eeegads!!! Looks like a small Astro van slammed to the ground. All the Scion products are wretched ugly! I mean, look at the Echo!! :razz:uke:

R

They are quite ugly from what I've seen.

Anyone able to post a picture of it?

I am the Odd Man out...

I like the looks of the xB

http://www.scion-line.com/oc_bb.jpg

The xA on the other hand is like a mini Matrix....

They aren't actually new, they've been out in Japan for a while now. When I was in Japan I saw a lot of them. Suzuki and Nissan both have cars in Japan that look very close to the classic mini! Its kinda sad how theyre copying the mini like that.

here is one called the box, and other is the bean

http://www.velocityphotos.com//image...2004xb6001.jpg

http://www.velocityphotos.com//image...sc2004xa01.jpg

It's damn cool, the xB, IMO

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I think the square one is cool. Is it all wheel drive?

This is probably the ride quality we're seeking with the lighter oil shocks.

Nope, but it's an economical show cruiser... It looks like a fun vehicle to mod.

So many aftermarket products avaiable too....

http://www.scion-line.com/scionxb024.jpg
http://www.scion-line.com/scionxb003.jpg
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http://www.scion-line.com/scioncabrio.jpg

They are also 108 HP.

Um, no thanks.

They are all show and no go. No wonder they are all either bling'd out or a rice nightmare.

But hey, if you want to be a pimp, that is your perogative. My taste and judgement of class lies elsewhere.

>>They are all show and no go.
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IMO, that's even stretching it.

My vote: No Show, No Go. U-G-L-Y, and baby they got no ALIBI! :eek:

That's funny, according to a former tunershop owner in SoCal, the xB can be tuned up to 180+HP with simple bolt ons...

But who on earth would want to go so fast in it?

That's just crazy.

It looks like a Honda Element without the plastic. Since when did rectangles become so popular again? And I thought my old Volvo wagon looked like a box! :wink:

http://www.g-wagon.co.uk/images/exterior-03.gif

Thanks for the pictures. Now I can breathe a sigh of relief. There is no way in he** those things will compete, repeat, replicate, duplicate, mimic, or even sit in the same category as the MINI.

Barf-o-rama, mama! I haven't seen anything that ugly since the Aztec. The one looks so low, it'll hit field mice. God, Toyota, what is WRONG with you? I'd expect it from GM or Ford, but you??

I've seen everything. I can die now. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Damn, Is Toyota hiring all those wretched french designers canned from Renault Peugot, and FIAT?

Their Mama's so ugly......... :eek:

hey doug

the g500 is about 85K :wink:

Autoweek April 28 issue had a 4 page spread on this POS. They will have a 1.5l 4 cyl found in the Echo. They are talking a whopping 108hp at 6000rpm and 105 lb-ft of torque at 4200. Absolutely not a MINI competitor. The big deal is they will be inexpensive ($13 - $14k) and can be customized a million different ways. The article quotes Toyota as saying "Scion buyers have all the rational demands of a Toyota buyer, but they also want more fun, personality and character. They're more concerned with how they look driving the car." Well, that's easy, they will look just as stupid as all those people driving Pontiac Aztecs. You couldn't pay me enough money to drive one of them.

Yes $85k and the two door version is over $100k
http://www.g-wagon.co.uk/images/exterior-05.jpg

Engine

Cylinders/arrangement
5/R

Displacement (cm3)
2.687

Rated output (kW (PS)/min)1
115 / 3.800

Rated torque (Nm 1/min)1
400 / 1.800-2.600

Performance

Top track speed (km/h)
160

Acceleration 0-100 km/h (s)
13.2

Fording depth (mm)
500

Climbing ability
80%

Inclination ability
54%

Off-road ratio
2.16 : 1

Permanent four-wheel drive, power distribution
50 : 50

CO2-Transmission (g/km)2
289

Fuel Consumption (l/100 km) 2

Urban
12.8

Motorway
9.6

Total
10.9

Weight / Dimensions

Turning circle (m)
11.31

Curb weight (kg)/total weight (kg)3
2.275/2.850

Towing capacity (braked/unbraked)3
2.850 / 750

Tank capacity (l)
96


1 Figures according to Directive 80/1269/EEC, version 1999/99/EC
2 Figures according to Directive 80/1268/EEC, version 1999/100/EC
3 Figures according to Directive 92/21/EC, version 95/48/EC (kerb weight, fuel tank 90% full, with driver, 68 kg, and luggage, 7 kg) for standard-specification vehicles. Optional extras and accessories will generally increase the kerb weight and reduce the payload capacity

Specification my change without our prior notice. Always check with us.

doug

my cousin has a four door. he also has a aston martin db7 vantage and his daily driver is a 2001 nsx.

btw hows the g500 related to this thread at all? :razz:

Ok, so I'm not so sure they're all that foxy but I am beyond happy--I'm thrilled, really--that these cars are coming. Perhaps this is the beginning of the end of giant, gas guzzling land barges. If these cars are preparing for US introduction--even if it's just in Cali so far--then someone obviously thinks they have a snowballs chance. And that makes me plenty satisfied.
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