Hey these car come from a history of back road rally driving, and my MC does it's fair share of it.

I love drifting around on the gravel back roads, almost as much as I like doing it in the snow

 

the guy was an idiot also, right?

 

Athens GREECE. Absolute disaster

 

Just had a chat with a friend who is currently working on the Isle of Jersey and he says that the speed limit has been raised to a whopping 40 MPH!

 

Pot Hole City = Washington DC.

Also -- people here don't know beans about driving in snow.

 

Sorry I have to disagree with you there planeguy. Based on the fact that there is nothing there at least you can open it up. Everywhere here there are cops on motorcycles. Let me explain. I am from NY. Up there if you speed on the highway and i mean more than 75-80 in a 55 or 65 zone. And usually only when you all alone. not when your in a pack.

Down here there are cops everywhere. Ever since cops was filmed here. They had a huge hiring spree and now there everywhere. Hell the mall road thats the one that loops around the Sawgrass mall. Just to clarify this is inside the mall you know the road that circles to go from macys to whatever. There are always cops and they stand under a tree shoot there little radar and whammo. 20-25 in a 15mph gets you a cop step in front of the car and now you have it. Back roads, main roads, everywhere! Its just not a fun place to drive.

 

I'd have to say the worst is anywhere you don't have access the Autobahn. Only one more year and I'll be back. Germany has the best roads and drivers I've ever come across. I can't wait to get back!

 

I lived most of my life in California.

So Cal drivers are quite good - they have to drive everywhere - but freeway traffic sucks, and most driving requires the freeway.

No Cal drivers are not very good, but the roads are fun. Would be a good place for a mini.

I lived in Florida for a year (middle of the state). Average drivers, good roads, nothing special.

Lived in Maryland/DC area for a year. Worst drivers ever. Everyone drives big SUVs, in a hurry, and with little skill. Lots of rush hour traffic. Bad roads. Bad place to drive. Did not like it there.

Now live in upstate NY. No bumper-to-bumper traffic, some really beautiful drives, average drivers. Lots of big rusted-out trucks, but drivers are not as aggressive as in DC. Good place for a mini.

I much prefer driving 45mph on a beautiful twisty road with the top down to driving at higher speed on a freeway. The mini makes me enjoy the ride - and therefore I avoid freeways whenever possible.

 

Toronto..... VERY bad potholes... VERY bad traffic... TOO MUCH straights....

 

The road conditions (lack of potholes, etc.) here in the Orlando area are generally pretty good. We never need to put salt on the streets, so I presume that helps a lot. We do have an extreme lack of hills though, though there are a few reasonably hilly areas outside of Orlando, with some decent drives. Nothing like mountain roads I'm sure though.

I'm sure I'll do a LOT more exploring of the area when I get my Mini =)

 

S. Florida may not be the worst, but it's up there with the worst.

I saw an interesting parody T shirt on "The Dragon" Florida: 11 turns in 311 miles (or numbers close to that). The roads are straight, flat, and the only thing to keep driving interesting is dodging blue haired retirees in Buicks and others who got their driving lessons in the Third World. Any road that might be interesting is so clogged up with traffic that you cannot go more than 30 mph. This is coming from someone who was born there and lived there thru 2001. After 9/11 my USAR unit was called up and I was stationed in central Virginia, just a few miles from the Blue Ridge mountains. I decided to stay after my activation. In contrast, the roads here are among the best in the country. My commute to work is marked as a scenic byway on the state map. Life is good.

Another horrible place to own a MINI, another fun to drive car, or a bike: southern Nebraska. Flat, featureless, and best to be avoided if possible. It makes Iowa seem interesting. Same for eastern Colorado. it is not what you see in a Coors beer ad. It's as bad as Neabraska. Rockies - another story.

West Virginia has great roads. The entire freakin' state is full of winding roads. Can't make it to a track day? Come to W. Va. West Virginia could be the wealthiest state in the nation if they charged admission to drive on their roads in exchange for speeding ticket immunity.

 

If you are counting manmade objects, I can say with authority that this is not the highest point in Florida.

 

Highest point in Florida: Britton Hill 345FT Above sea level

http://www.americasroof.com/fl.html


Highest building in Florida:

http://www.langan.com/4seasons.asp The Four Seasons Hotel and Tower is the tallest building on the southeast coast of the United States and it encompasses one full block of Miami’s Brickell Avenue Financial District. The mixed-use complex includes a 70-story tower surrounded by a 16-level podium, a 7-level parking garage and a banquet facility. This building is located 5 minutes from where I live.

 

I am of the quit bitching mindset. driving my MINI is like sex...."the worst I have had is wonderful"

 

The "highest building" stats only include structures meant for full time human occupancy, generally.

The federal government's database lists Tower #1019724 , at 472.1 meters (1549 feet) above MSL, or 463 meters (1519 feet) AGL, as the highest structure in the state of Florida.

 

You may be a pilot.

 

Actually, I'm a BASE jumper. My interest in tall things is not so much in avoiding them as in getting to the top and jumping off.

 

New York City people!!!
I just moved my beautiful mcs05 to NYC and it SUCKS!!!! Fastest I have driven around here is a whooping 45mph, and its because the in front of my buidling they placed fresh asphalt.
Although I went yesterday to Beacon, NY and the road was beautiful!!!
Lucky me, that the mini sleeps in my building's garage. (pretty rare in NYC)

 

BOSTON!

The good - No boring straight roads

The bad - No smooth roads, No traffic free roads, No construction free roads, Lots of very bad drivers, Lots of debris in the roads........

 

 

Boston and NYC...... your kidding me get a few miles out of town and there are some great roads. The N GA mountains are about 50 miles from Atlanta. I go there all the time.

 

Another vote for NYC! The Brooklyn Queens Expressway is the worst-a work in progress for countless years!!!

 

Exactly! I think we have it pretty good around here. Yeah, the drivers are bad, but after a while at least they're predictably bad. And there are some very nice roads within 20 miles of the city. Usually not more than a few miles between intersections, but if you're looking for that, just head to New Hampshire or Maine!

I've only driven in NYC a handful of times, but that has to be one of the worst places to own a MINI. You can't just get out of the city in 15 minutes like you can in Boston.

 

The little shop at the Crossroads of Time at the Tail of the Dragon sells tees that read "Florida: 11 turns in 318 miles," spoofing the well-known "318 curves in 11 miles" of the Dragon!


Clover

 

daleCarlsbad, you are so very cruel.

Shelly