I got in a heated debate with some friends and they said that my Mini Cooper S engine is the same as a "DODGE NEON" engine. Can someone please tell me if that is true or not? The last thing I want to do is to pay for a 30K "DODGE NEON".

 

For better or for worse, the Mini 1.6L motor is Chrysler designed and built motor. It's not a Neon motor, but it's still from Chrysler fwiw-The next gen motors are made by Peugot with a lot of design and engineering from BMW incorporated in them.

 

It is if you're talking about the non-US market Neon. Or PT Cruiser. Plenty of info on this subject if you care to do a search. Seeing as it's already been discussed in the last week, probably not too many folks will want to regurgitate the info again.

 

Dude, please do a forum search. This topic has been discussed ad naseum!

Yes the MINI engine is a MOPAR design dating back to the mid 1990's. It was co-developed between BMW and then Chrysler Corporation before the hostile 1998 take over.

The engine is manufactured in Curitiba, Brazil at one of the most advanced engine plants in South America: TRITEC MOTORS.

The engine in the Cooper model is used in EXPORT ONLY versions of the Chrysler Neon and Chrysler PT Cruiser and a Chery small sedan manufactured and sold in China.

The MCS Supercharged engine is exclusive to the MINI Cooper S and it is not shared with any other car.

Our engines have proven to be bulletproof and the Chrysler/MOPAR heritage behind them is NOTHING to be ashamed of.

 

Woah, woah, there... The MINI engine block is made by Chrysler, and is used in some of their Euro cars. Other than that, nothing is the same. Someone check me if I'm wrong. The transmission, supercharger, and most of the other systems are all BMW parts made for MINI. If someone thinks you're getting a $30k NEON, just have them drive it, then drive a NEON.

 

TRITEC Motors Brazil website:

http://www.tritecmotors.com.br/english/index.html

Why people get so worked up over the fact that our MINI engines have MOPAR genes in them>? So silly!!!

 

No doubt - now when they start putting I-Drive in the MINI, well, THEN we can get worked up. . .

 

Transmission is made by Getrag (Manuals) or ZF (Cooper CVT) or Aisin (MCSa).

The Supercharger is made by American manufacturer Eaton.

I can give you a complete list of the suppliers to the MINI and you'll have some unexpected surprises here and there.

 

I bet your friends drive Hondas with Fart can exhausts, right?

 

It's the same as the PT cruiser non-US market....The BMW-Chrysler deal went through before MB merged with Chrysler...hence no more engines will be built by Chrysler.

---sorrry about the half post...I got busy at work...

 

Just remember what MOPAR stands for:

Move Over, Plymouth Approaching Rapidly!

 

Uh?

 

always thought it was: Most Original Parts, Already Replaced

 

Please do

 

Engine - Daimler-Chrysler & BMW (TRITEC Motors)

Supercharger - Eaton

Front wiper system - Valeo

Glass - Sekurit-St Gobain

Steering column - NSK Systems Europe

Interior mirror - Donnelly

Sun Visor - FICO

Overhead Systems - Johnson Controls

Sunroof - Webasto

Grab Handles - Elta Plastics UK

Headliner - Grupoantolin

Seats - Johnson Controls

Sealing/NVH - Stanton Rubber & Plastic

Rear Lamps - Valeo

Tool Kits - Thyssenkrupp

Fuel Tank - Kautex Textron

Trunk Trim - Rieter

Lockset - Valeo

Ride Control - Tenneco

Rear damper assemblies - Delphi

Fuel Supply Limits - Siemens VDO

Flexible exhaust decoupler - Senior Automotive

Wheels - Hayes Lemmerz

Tires - Continental, Goodyear, Dunlop, Pirelli

Steering lock - Valeo

Radio - Alpine/Harmon Kardon

Side intrusion beam - Thyssenkrupp

Carpets and sound insulation - Rieter Automotive

Exhaust manifold and muffler - Hayes Lemmerz

Transmission - Getrag, ZF, Aisin

Clutch and dual flywheel mass - LuK

Electro-Hydraulic Power steering system - ZF Lenksysteme

ABS, Booster ESP and calipers - Continental Teves

Wheel bearings - NSK

Front/rear subframe - Thyssenkrupp

Front Strut modules - Delphi

Water Pump - Airtex

Clutch system and facings - Valeo

Clutch hose master and slave cylinder - DANA FTE

heating and cooling hoses - MACFI

Wheel balance weights - Airvert

Headlamps - Automotive Lighting

Batteries - Varta

Engine sensors - NGK

HVAC, including condenser and hoses - Valeo

Air induction system - Tennex

Cylinder liners - GKN

Pistons - Mahle

Engine ECU - Siemens

Navigation system - Alpine

Intake manifold - Mann + Hummel

Cables - Dura

 

"Engine - Daimler-Chrysler & BMW (TRITEC Motors)

Supercharger - Eaton

Front wiper system - Valeo

Glass - Sekurit-St Gobain

Steering column - NSK Systems Europe

Interior mirror - Donnelly

Sun Visor - FICO

Overhead Systems - Johnson Controls

Sunroof - Webasto

Grab Handles - Elta Plastics UK

Headliner - Grupoantolin

Seats - Johnson Controls

Sealing/NVH - Stanton Rubber & Plastic

Rear Lamps - Valeo

Tool Kits - Thyssenkrupp

Fuel Tank - Kautex Textron

Trunk Trim - Rieter

Lockset - Valeo

Ride Control - Tenneco

Rear damper assemblies - Delphi

Fuel Supply Limits - Siemens VDO

Flexible exhaust decoupler - Senior Automotive

Wheels - Hayes Lemmerz

Tires - Continental, Goodyear, Dunlop, Pirelli

Steering lock - Valeo

Radio - Alpine/Harmon Kardon

Side intrusion beam - Thyssenkrupp

Carpets and sound insulation - Rieter Automotive

Exhaust manifold and muffler - Hayes Lemmerz

Transmission - Getrag, ZF, Aisin

Clutch and dual flywheel mass - LuK

Electro-Hydraulic Power steering system - ZF Lenksysteme

ABS, Booster ESP and calipers - Continental Teves

Wheel bearings - NSK

Front/rear subframe - Thyssenkrupp

Front Strut modules - Delphi

Water Pump - Airtex

Clutch system and facings - Valeo

Clutch hose master and slave cylinder - DANA FTE

heating and cooling hoses - MACFI

Wheel balance weights - Airvert

Headlamps - Automotive Lighting

Batteries - Varta

Engine sensors - NGK

HVAC, including condenser and hoses - Valeo

Air induction system - Tennex

Cylinder liners - GKN

Pistons - Mahle

Engine ECU - Siemens

Navigation system - Alpine

Intake manifold - Mann + Hummel

Cables - Dura"

 

I don't know how much this will tell you or if it even matters but here is a link to motoringfile.com (Gabriel Bridger's website)

http://www.motoringfile.com/2005/01/20/a_world_of_parts

"A World of Parts" that appeared in National Georaphic in 2003

Here is a Scan that was posted within that story.



I don't know what all the fuss is anyway? We don't drive dodge neons. And next year we won't be driving peugots. No matter what we will still be driving MINIs.

 

So it seems the short answer is:

If you're in America, not true at all.
If you're in Europe, true, for some value of "true".

 

Who cares. The original Mini shared a common engine with agricultural tractors and they still managed to win the Monte a few times! I would be a little more p'd off if I bought a Jag and found out it was a Ford Taurus!

 

Good one, Rick!!


Clover

 

Isn't the X-Type Jag based on the Mondeo, which I believe was the European replacement for the Contour? Just checking. . .

 

Who cares. It's an engine and a good one at that.

 

Yes the Jaguar X-Type is based in the European Ford Mondeo sedan and the Jaguar S-type is based on the Lincoln LS/Thunderbird/Mustang platform known as the LS98.

 

I don't know, guys. I spoke to a salesperson at Bauer Jaguar across from Crevier Mini and he told me that the new Jaguar station wagon was based on the same basic platform as the old Ford Taurus. Maybe he was yankin' my chain?

 

Just as long as MINI doesn't try and do any platform sharing with Land Rover, I'm cool. . .