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Old Oct 23, 2021 | 10:02 AM
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I wanna turbo swap , those who have plz chime in

As you may be aware in my prior posts , I'm just not happy with the power of our r53 engine..mines at the point where only high dollar stuff like a stroker kit is an option as I've done most I can do bolt on wise..
I'm already running a sprintex to it's max and at 19lb of boost I'm still far from satisfied with the power of the car..
Am I correct in assuming since a turbo will be going over 20psi I will need a different ecu ? If so what are my options and what did you use ?
I also don't have the option of being able to fab my own parts so where can I buy a turbo manifold and down pipe ect ?
I found this kit and I know I could upgrade the turbo and stuff if I needed more boost but what are your opinions on this kit ?

https://www.vividracing.com/turbo-specialties-t20-extreme-turbo-kit-mini-cooper-r53-0106-p-42965.html
 
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 07:47 PM
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Sounds like it's twin turbo LS swap time.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 09:16 PM
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Sounds like it's twin turbo LS swap time.
I've had my fun with v8s already ..lol
I actually might be trading my other 04 mini for a 2010 sho police package...
Instead of ls , I'd sooooooo much rather kswap my Grey mini. I'd even give who ever did the work my entire engine ect and buy the k series engine and stuff for him to do it...just sucks there Noone by me with the expertise because it could be a 2x way Hella beneficial deal.. the person gets my built engine n stuff for their car and I finally would get my kswap to begin building.. gowd, a Jackson racing supercharger on it or a twins twinscroll turbo...ugh wants and wishs
 
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Old Oct 29, 2021 | 04:58 AM
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I’ll trade you my clubby s for yours. Man you seriously have put a lot of time and effort into that thing. I would try to work on tuning and really get her dialed in. Drag race is fun to a point, but carving corners is way more enjoyable and when you are pushing other sports cars out of the way, it makes my smile bigger.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2021 | 05:33 AM
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My $0.02... You're losing efficiency with the high supercharger speeds, and your intake is getting too hot. Have you considered a front mount intercooler package? (I thought there was one recently listed in the marketplace) What are you running for differential? Is it still the OEM open diff, or have you upgraded to an LSD? An LSD will help put the power down, even in a straight line. I also agree with Jason, work on getting the power down in the corners and chase down some much more expensive machines.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2021 | 06:24 AM
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Old Oct 29, 2021 | 08:56 AM
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Have you switched to the MS5150 ECU, or does your year model already have it? The 5150 is much more tunable.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2021 | 04:12 PM
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Have you switched to the MS5150 ECU, or does your year model already have it? The 5150 is much more tunable.
I wish there was more info out there on the 5150 - or just tritec tuning in general.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2021 | 06:48 PM
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Subscribed, because this should be interesting....

My $0.02... You're losing efficiency with the high supercharger speeds, and your intake is getting too hot. Have you considered a front mount intercooler package? (I thought there was one recently listed in the marketplace) What are you running for differential? Is it still the OEM open diff, or have you upgraded to an LSD? An LSD will help put the power down, even in a straight line. I also agree with Jason, work on getting the power down in the corners and chase down some much more expensive machines.
wrong..my iats were amazing and always are, my car runs very efficiently. I have another thread posts I actually talked about where my iats were but anyways even the longest hardest pull my car never gets even 20 above ambient temp and matter fact longer pulls my engine gets colder iats becauseof increased volume of air over my ic plus I have an ic sprayer that cools it at wot and I've watched my iats DROP while in wot. A front mount would be losing efficiency with the added piping.. and lsd or not doesn't explain my poor improvement I made after the install of the so called better parts..
 
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Old Oct 29, 2021 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason Cornelius
I’ll trade you my clubby s for yours. Man you seriously have put a lot of time and effort into that thing. I would try to work on tuning and really get her dialed in. Drag race is fun to a point, but carving corners is way more enjoyable and when you are pushing other sports cars out of the way, it makes my smile bigger.
dude , if it was a r56 I woulda... I been contemplating paying off the 1500$ title loan on my Grey cooper and actually trying to trade it for a jcw r56.. I totally agree r53 are for carving and i don't do that much I'm a strait line runner so an r56 would better suit me being that the turbo will make bigger power.. idc that the r56 is bigger or heavier cuz it will be good enough handling for me.. my r53 my god,God, thing feels like it would be a track star with the suspension and handling mods I've put on it and it screams through 1st gear into 2nd but just doesn't pull hard as I want after that..
I'm talking with Adrian but it's slow going..idk if somehow I pissed him off but he's been very short with me and not even answering my specific questions I been asking about my tune n stuff...I'm kinda in a pickle
 
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Old Oct 30, 2021 | 02:58 AM
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dude , if it was a r56 I woulda... I been contemplating paying off the 1500$ title loan on my Grey cooper and actually trying to trade it for a jcw r56.. I totally agree r53 are for carving and i don't do that much I'm a strait line runner so an r56 would better suit me being that the turbo will make bigger power.. idc that the r56 is bigger or heavier cuz it will be good enough handling for me.. my r53 my god,God, thing feels like it would be a track star with the suspension and handling mods I've put on it and it screams through 1st gear into 2nd but just doesn't pull hard as I want after that..
I'm talking with Adrian but it's slow going..idk if somehow I pissed him off but he's been very short with me and not even answering my specific questions I been asking about my tune n stuff...I'm kinda in a pickle
Don’t be knocking the clubby, not only can she handle her own, the extra space actually makes it functional😉 Anywho maybe a public apology to Adrian and a realization that you can’t come on a forum a blast your tuner and expect them to be willing to help. Smooth that relationship out, and get her dialed in. Nik seems to have a pretty good relationship with Lou, and who will be tuning mine. I’m sure they had a few bumps but have worked it out and there was no forum shamming. Some of the other guys might have choose to do some shady stuff or are very difficult to reach, and Adrian seems to be one of the stand up guys for you R53 owner’s.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2021 | 05:05 AM
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Old Oct 30, 2021 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Cornelius
Don’t be knocking the clubby, not only can she handle her own, the extra space actually makes it functional😉 Anywho maybe a public apology to Adrian and a realization that you can’t come on a forum a blast your tuner and expect them to be willing to help. Smooth that relationship out, and get her dialed in. Nik seems to have a pretty good relationship with Lou, and who will be tuning mine. I’m sure they had a few bumps but have worked it out and there was no forum shamming. Some of the other guys might have choose to do some shady stuff or are very difficult to reach, and Adrian seems to be one of the stand up guys for you R53 owner’s.
I never blasted adrian , quit the opposite... I've only ever had good things to say about him and I was like the 2nd person he tuned on here and I have referred him to anyone who's needed tuning.. I just think he took it personal because I said my tune sucks , I guess I could have worded it better and in all honesty I don't even think it's his fault. I feel like somewhere along the line of us sending tunes back n forth ,somehow the wrong tune may have been sent... but like I've said , he's so short with me and completely avoids the questions I ask him about my tune so idk.ive paid Adrian for everything he's ever helped me with too. am I really a jerk for questioning why it's not running as it should?...actually this new tune he sent me I'm scared to even drive on, it had such bad back firing/ crackle n pops and I've specifically asked NOT to have that in my tune and asked about it and won't answer me... so this is why I need a new tuner , no offense to Adrian but there seems to be a lack of communication. I continue asking the questions and continually keep being avoided so technically idk wtf my tune really consists of.
I have far far too much money into the engine and car as a whole really to keep throwing and just trying tunes in.. eventually it's going to cause catastrophic damage by frying a piston ring , a valve or washing out a cylinder..an engine can experience massive damage from just wrong fueling and that's EXACTLY what's wrong with my tune on my car. I feel like the things I'm telling him my car is doing wrong he's just ignoring and thinking the issues are on my end such as a vacuum leak or bad sensor.. I've smoke tested my car 10x and have a boost gauge and all proper gaging.. I've also gone and spent MAD amount of money alone replacing every single sensor on the engine with new factory/ oem brand sensors to make sure no crappy off brand sensors were the cause of my lack of power.
but anyways we're off topic...
LET'S SEE THEM TURBO SWAPS GUYS! chime in plz because I'm wanting more and more to do this
 

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Old Oct 30, 2021 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason Cornelius
Don’t be knocking the clubby, not only can she handle her own, the extra space actually makes it functional😉 Anywho maybe a public apology to Adrian and a realization that you can’t come on a forum a blast your tuner and expect them to be willing to help. Smooth that relationship out, and get her dialed in. Nik seems to have a pretty good relationship with Lou, and who will be tuning mine. I’m sure they had a few bumps but have worked it out and there was no forum shamming. Some of the other guys might have choose to do some shady stuff or are very difficult to reach, and Adrian seems to be one of the stand up guys for you R53 owner’s.
could u plz pm me about Lou... no offense to Adrian but I need someone more direct and closer.
 
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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 09:20 AM
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That looks great is it a US company or is that something you got to ship from the UK?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 09:22 AM
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That looks great is it a US company or is that something you got to ship from the UK?
Had it shipped in. Twin charged tvs900 project. Paired with a GT2871R. Electronically controlled BPV to handle smooth crossover. Car already makes over 300whp in current trim.
 
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Had it shipped in. Twin charged tvs900 project. Paired with a GT2871R. Electronically controlled BPV to handle smooth crossover. Car already makes over 300whp in current trim.
Post some pics after the install.
I'm curious to see the fitment, it's not as compact as mine, and is really like to see the overall engine compartment layout.
 
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