I like that!

 

6950 rpm in 6th is 173 mph.

 

I was initially very skeptical about the 05 being so much more peppy. Those are huge percentage increases. Thanks Lombardstreet and Andy for running the numbers. This go shows the torque is what moves the car, horse power is what sells the car.

 

Minimania has sold a similiar gearset for some time. The problem is that it is very expensive and not worth the increase. The cost to change a tranny could be better spent on something like a head.

By the way, no way you have taken it to redline in 6th gear.

 

First time posting… it’s a little intimidating!

I have an April 04 build MCS and I just got the JCW airbox installed and they updated my software. I joked with the tech that I hoped I could feel the difference and he laughed and said I would. I really can’t tell any diffence in the low RPM range but when it hits 4000RPMs it has an extra kick in the pants now and sounds like a jet winding up for takeoff. I don’t know if this extra kick is the software or the airbox. But I love it!

 

Now that this is the standard tranny for MCS, the availability and cost may make this an option for folks in the future. Yes, expensive, but look at how many folks have spent $5,000-$6,000 or more for the JCW kit to accomplish similar times as posted in the early magazine tests of the new 05 MCS.(who knows how accurate the magazines are, but you get my point)

Some folks have probably spent $10,000 in aftermarket to get the most out of the car, so some will have to be crazy enough to replace the tranny , assuming it matches up or retrofits.

What I want to see is all the fixins on a the new 05, JCW, aftermarket, etc.

 

Andy, maybe I did it in my dreams but you know that is the kind of car this is. It's an obssecion. I've seen 135 on the speedo on this car but can't honestly remember if I was in 5th or 6th gear. I'll go for a top speed run sunday if possible, I'll make sure to look at the tach. I'm honored you read my post , I'll get back to you on this asap.
Good luck to me!

 

135 is definitely doable, even stock.

 

is right!

No wonder Tillie's so fun!

I've asked this before, but not gotten an answer. Does anyone know where the extra hp and torque on the 05s came from? Is it just tweaking the ECU or did they change the hardware, too?

 

You guys are making my life very, very difficult with this thread!

(Droooling)

 

Welcome MINIpup, don't be intimidated. It's easy to feel like you are been ignored here but it's always better to contribute your 2 cnts, it keeps it alive and interesting. Have fun here and don't believe everything you read. A good example for instance is a statement by a minibrute claiming to have driven his mcs to redline in 6th gear. More about that coming soon.

 

At 4500 rpm, a flap opens up which directs the cowl air into the intake housing. The sound becomes louder at this point and you do feel a little extra power above that range, than when you had the stock intake on.

 

Ok andy, I did two top speed runs. My first run I got up to 130 mph in 5th gear, didn't get to redline but had to abort mission. My second run went well into redline just shy of hitting the rev limiter in 5th gear for a top speed close to 140 mph. There wasn't enough road to shift into 6th. I have to find a safe place to do a 6th gear top speed run. The last time I did top speed runs my car had the 15% pulley and an alta intake so 135 mph was it. Today was the first time running to top speed with my new mods that include mth software with raised rev limit and top speed governor, a milltek catback and 19 pounds per corner lighter wheel/tire combo. The car felt solid and strong all the way to top speed, I'm very satisfied with the enhanced driveabilty and overall performance of my modded 03 mcs. My 1984 motorcycle, a Yamaha kenny Roberts rz350 also does 135 mph on the same stretch of road. That's a 325 pound bike with a modified 2 stroke parallel twin cylinder water cooled motor. The yamaha does low 12 seconds in the 1/4 mile but I bet my mini would catch it and pass it on the way to top speed. The mcs is a lot of fun, it keeps my aprilia in the garage and that's a 160 mph top speed motorcycle that does low 10 seconds in the 1/4 mile and made to carve turns. So my point here is that there is plenty to be happy about with a pre 05 mcs.

Kids, do not try this at home.

 

Doug,

Be careful out there you know these LI cops lives to give out tickets, did you take on my favorite strech of road out east, have only seen the cops our there once.
Next time you go out to play naughty give me a buzz and I will take THDUKE out to watch.

 

Trev, good to hear from you. Thanks for reminding me of that spot out by you, I'll make sure to touch base with you next time I'm out to speedplay. I went to the south shore on ocean pkwy very early in the morning. Did a speed limit run of my favorate spot just to make sure it was safe and wouldn't risk anybody's life other that my own. Also made sure our finest weren't sitting around having breakfast. I did two runs but started to get the butterflys and I don't like doing high risk stuff unless my confidence is 100% so that was it. I ended up meeting with the U.S.miniclub guys in bethpage later on, I'll let you know next time we are getting together. I mentioned you and they'd love to meet you. Sorry I missed you guys on that NYC run, I should have gone. Anyway, let's keep in touch Trevor. Be well.
:smile:

 

I'm with Rye on this one. I don't know how anyone can complain about the so called "first tall grear" when anything past 3/4 throttle calls for more tire traction. Ok...I'm talking about modded Minis but that's exactly my point. For the these Minis, the gearing is just about perfect. Why would I need a shorter gearing when I can rip off a few hundred feet worth of rubber as is

 

Myself and Cynic13 swapped cars for a few minutes to other day to do this same sort of test. His is a stock '05 and here is a list of my mods:

http://www.goldcountrymini.com/forum...p?t=8&start=28

I must say, at first the thing felt like a monster compared to my car.... then I hit 3500 RPM. The initial pickup on the '05s is very noticable when compared to my '04. However, I also noticed the the gears were a bit shorter, leaving me wondering how this car would perfom from 60-100. Clearly, my '04 has much more power and it was very evident once i reached 3500 RPM, but up until that point I was thinking to myself... "no way this thing is faster than mine".

We didnt really get to do any high speed fun, but I am fairly confident that the gear ratios in the '04 would destroy an '05. This would be an interesting little comparison.... anyone out there have a stock '04 and know someone with a stock'05?

 

Actually, I think if both cars had the same weight/power, the 05's shorter gearing might beat you (if he can find traction in first) up to it's gear/speed limit. If you guys were going for the top end, you, in the 04 would eventually catch up and pass the 05

 

You can change the effective ratio by reducing the circumference of the tires.

Cheaper too. Lower it to get the hoot back. And you are money ahead. Reversing the process is just as easy. There will be speedo error unless you get really serious.

 

Thats what Im sayin... I think that the '04 in a good high speed race would win.... The '05 felt like I was driving a Jetta (no offense... I just mean the gearing) which have the shorter gears also.... they dont really offer much in the middle from my experience with them (60-100). Nonetheless, it would be interesting once some of these new '05s start getting modded.

 

Yup...that too is part of my traction problem ..... running 215/40-17 Kumo Ecstas

 

Pft, the problem isnt the size, its the Kumhos I had 205-45-17 Kumho Ecstas on there before, and I honestly didnt notice that much of a traction difference over my runflats

This past week I decided to ditch the kumhos, and due to all of the rain here I skipped on the Azenis and went for the Ziexs.. 215-45-17 this time. All i can say is DAMN.... these are ALL SEASON tires and they are much grippier than my kumhos ever were at their best.

The downside is that they are a bit noisier (in the turns), but oh well.... I can deal with noise for grip. Cant wait to try out the Azenis RAIN RAIN GO AWAY!

 

Yes, but put the same exact mods as you guys have on your 04's on the 05 and it will leave you wanting for sure. Trying to compare a stock 05 to a modded 04 (or older) is like trying to compare apples to oranges now isn't it???

I've driven a stock 02 and a stock 03 for extended periods and I have to say that I much prefer the 05 over both of them. I find the (stock) taller geared cars very hard to start off from a stand still in every day driving exercises when compared to the 05. In the 05, I just let the clutch out and it goes (no thought required). With the taller geared cars, I feel like I'm constantly having to fight to find the proper balance between gas and clutch to keep from stalling the car. Thus, I'd take a 05 over one of the older cars any day.

 

Yes, no doubt the '05s have the initial power, but that isnt magic power.... the '04s will still overtake it at higher speeds.

 

It sounds like the real comparison will come when we have an '05 and an '04 with similar mods.

Until then,

mb