Don't forget that the 05's also get a 7 ft/lb bump on top of all the other bonuses.

Torque is what really makes the difference.

Hey Thameth, did you finally sell your '04 MCS?

Technically, it's a 5bhp but the most important thing is the gearing since it makes the hp more usable. It would be nice to be able to pull hard off of idle instead of 2-2.5k.:smile:

G'd*mn.... can I get any more anxious to get my '05!?

I have the same question as well. How would LSD affect straight-line acceleration?

I would say more traction to improve ET but I don't how it affects the trap speed.

It sure doesn't hurt it..

But for the loss in taxes and the additional cost of an 05 and depreciation loss...nah, keep the 04.

Haven't had time, i'll reply to PM soon

Yeah, that is true, but then again when you sell a car you can never expect to recover sales tax and other fees from the original sale. If it weren't for the MINI's seemingly strong resale values, I would not even consider doing the upgrade towards a '05.... No question about it.

A '05 MCS today is exactly $1K more expensive than an early build '04 MCS and given the improvements and now the availability of LSD for another $500 is not bad at all.

Provided that I find a buyer willing to go for my asking price, I think it will be a pretty good deal. We'll see.

On the other hand, I don't mind keeping the '04. Its been a terrific car so far.

Thanks! I am looking forward to your reply.

The only thing is that prices don't seem to be that strong as they were before. And you have to pay taxes on your new car so it seems that the improvements are gonna cost you in the hood of 3k..min without depreciation factored in. That's half a JCW!!

You are correct again. I also considered the JCW upgrade but we are talking about $6,500 which is double the difference when depreciation, taxes and fees on the new car, etc are factored in.

Believe, I am still running the numbers and thinking about making this move long and hard before deciding on placing an order.

The market between new and used MINIs here in South Florida is pretty tight, but used prices are still high for folks that do not want to wait or are open to buy either new or used.

I don't doubt you thought hard about it...I am just playing the devil's advocate here. :smile:

To be honest with you, I thought about a 05 but then I computed the cost and the wife factor(you're going to do what!?!) and decided a pulley is the answer. Or an EVO 8

[QUOTE=meanboy]It was LY but I can't remember the color of the top.

Ah well, that eliminates the "Higher Performance BRG cars" prognosis that has been been offered up by Randy Webb. He claims to have dyno data to support that BRG cars have on average more unmodified BHP than other colors, suggesting that MINI takes the better engines for the BRG cars. I thought he was kidding, but he said he had the data to prove it.

BB

hahah..

well, at least the picture in the article was a LY. It could very well have been a BRG that produced the performance figures!

WOW!!!!
the highest I saw for a Works MCS was 6.2 0-60. Anyone think it will be a sub 5 second a car?
Plus if it was BRG it would be a couple of tenths faster....

The wife!!!!, The wife!!!!

Yeah I have successfully sold her on cars before but I am expecting a bit of a back lash about trading up this one

We'll see how it goes...

Here's a funny story. My wife really liked this car but I didn't. I thought it was too small, unsafe, etc. Then I drove it and researched it and then put down the downpayment on it and waited one year for it!! So she's right sometimes.

But she's getting ticked about the EVO 8 comments. Oh, and the 993/996 comments too. Something, to the effect, where's the money! And I say, in the bank, and it's called a loan.

Look at this thing...

http://www.smokemup.com/auto_math/edragstrip.php

I heard from a local who has driven an '05 that the new gearing REALLY pulls alot harder than the 6spd in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.... makes me wanna go test drive one to see if I can feel a difference between my modded '04 vs the '05. I believe my '04 to be low 6s 0-60 and low 14s 1/4 mile. When we put it on scales, it weighs 2630 WITH the sunroof, so I cant wait to get some sparcos and ditch the back seats

The backseats weigh how much? I think you're going to need to do
more like take 250lbs off to get 0.5sec off your time.

how much does the sunroof take off, weight and time wise? What about the R85s as opposed to the R90s?

Woah woah... I was just saying I want to see how light I can get it, completely unrelated to taking any time off. The sunroof adds loads of weight, but Im not sure exactly how much... all the wiring, the electronics, and the glass itself.

These are the mods I have done:
http://www.goldcountrymini.com/forum...p?t=8&start=28.

oh, I was getting ahead of myself. :smile:

The sunroof's glass weighs something like 60-70lbs. according to a
guess by RandyWebb. The R90's are boat anchors (25lbs?)... reason
why I went with SSR Comps (12lbs) for performance.

but i donno...6.5sec still isn't that fast these days. Probably get
high 7's on a warm day on the streets at best.