R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006) Cooper (R50) and Cooper S (R53) hatchback discussion.

R50/53 Spences Air Ride 06 JCW Bild Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 16, 2015 | 07:25 AM
  #126  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ECSTuning
SPC rear lower adjustable arms can be used on the top also. But if you have xenon , the auto levelers are there and they will need to be somehow mounted, unless you took them out because you are lowered anyway.
My auto leveler was in....but it's toast now....upper and lower arms are bent...still waiting to find if the mounts themself bent I was told if they are...they will total the car...the wheel is no longer true I'm finding as well
Thanks ECS looks like I'll be adding the SPC kit....I if it is totaled...ill probably just go billet trailing arms as well since there is no way I'll be driving it for a month minimum.
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2015 | 07:33 AM
  #127  
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
Platinum Sponsor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 36,762
Likes: 2,551
From: Wadsworth, Ohio
You are welcome, you can convert to the GP 1 Aluminum trailing arms if you want.

I hope things work out, sucks you got hit after all this work.

Another aluminum option GP1 Trailight arms.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...s-it-take.html
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2015 | 08:54 AM
  #128  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ECSTuning
You are welcome, you can convert to the GP 1 Aluminum trailing arms if you want.

I hope things work out, sucks you got hit after all this work.

Another aluminum option GP1 Trailight arms.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...s-it-take.html
It's going to work out...
And my wife is thumbs up!
GP1 is where I'm headed. Just because of that 2lbs
We dropped 4lbs after air install
All of the replacement camber arms will be alloy
+GP1 arms
That's quite a bit of weight dropped in the area you want!

Only thing I'm left questioning is if I remove my rear sensor...would I have to convert to non leveling hid? My concern stems from some aftermarket companies making halogen projectors and me getting stuck with something that can't handle the heart from xenon power.
Some of the adds are so ambiguous as to what the light can do or what its rated for.
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2015 | 08:59 AM
  #129  
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
Platinum Sponsor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 36,762
Likes: 2,551
From: Wadsworth, Ohio
Great, glad i could help.


On the headlights sensor on the rear you could find the center point , then make a new mount location and measure the distance travel up and down. The set it center as a work around.

Or get the helix / depo headlight, Manual level adjusment and convert to xenon.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...installed.html




DIY Depo/ helix to HID

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-question.html
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2015 | 09:59 AM
  #130  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ECSTuning
Great, glad i could help.


On the headlights sensor on the rear you could find the center point , then make a new mount location and measure the distance travel up and down. The set it center as a work around.

Or get the helix / depo headlight, Manual level adjusment and convert to xenon.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...installed.html




DIY Depo/ helix to HID

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-question.html
Thanks again! I owe you a brew!
Looks like I'll go with option 2.....
The sensor is done....I really don't need the auto level mess on my hands anyway. Plus that conversion looks like a fun in my living room kind of project.
No matter what the outcome is on the mounts being bent....and being repaired...ditching the sensor will save her a couple bucks...

And it's going to cost me more
But
I think my judgement is clouded by the fact I've always wanted black housings....
 
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2015 | 10:26 AM
  #131  
batrugger's Avatar
batrugger
5th Gear
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,081
Likes: 0
From: Hesperia, Ca.
Sorry you got tapped, but glad your okay. Those OEM lights are so awesome. I really doubt anything you get will be better. Just search for the joey mod on here and black out the housings and keep the lights you have. I have even seen them color matched. Here's a nice example:






And here's the how to:

http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforu...post1063677876
 

Last edited by batrugger; Sep 16, 2015 at 10:35 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2015 | 10:27 AM
  #132  
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
Platinum Sponsor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 36,762
Likes: 2,551
From: Wadsworth, Ohio
Welcome , I will take an IOU
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2015 | 10:37 AM
  #133  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
O
Originally Posted by batrugger
Sorry you got tapped, but glad your okay. Those OEM lights are so awesome. I really doubt anything you get will be better. Just search for the joey mod on here and black out the housings and keep the lights you have. I have even seen them color matched
Ahhh so wise
It's true they are....
Truth be told I've saved all of the oem parts I've removed and I plan to refurbish them. I do one day want to put this car back the way it was many years from now. Another thought I had about the lights is id love for them to stay the way they are now and enjoy my cross country exploits with a nice replacement pair....I think I'm just being overly particular
 

Last edited by Spencer Roper; Sep 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2015 | 07:59 AM
  #134  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Update
Took it into a laser alignment establishment yesterday.
The News is.....only the trailing arm bent. The sensor is salvageable so I will keep my beautiful xenon lights for now.
My dilemma lies with this thought
Is it really time to go aluminum arms or do I want to sort out my other lists first. I'm not exactly sure just how fast I can get the GP1 arms but I have a week to decide to have the alignment shop replace it on the person who's responsible for the accident money. Or I take it home and do the aluminum for the extra money and time involved.
Needless to say I'm busy and not much is moving forward with the MINI.
Hopefully I can get this beauty on the road again within two weeks...those New wheels are just screaming to be put on!
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2015 | 12:08 PM
  #135  
Saltysalt's Avatar
Saltysalt
6th Gear
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,257
Likes: 15
From: Dover, NH
just a thought, I believe the trailing arms for the r56 and the gp1 are nearly identical
 
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2015 | 01:04 PM
  #136  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Saltysalt
just a thought, I believe the trailing arms for the r56 and the gp1 are nearly identical
I'm aware that they are pretty close
But the -2 extra lbs is what I'm looking for if I'm going to do a trailing arm job.
This isn't a financial dilemma....I'm just trying to figure out how long anyone had waited on shipping for GP1 trailing arms
 
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2015 | 07:46 AM
  #137  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Update.
Well I've been trying to find some places that can get me GP 1 arms within a reasonable amount of time..but it looks like I'm going to have to wait a bit.
The vendors are mostly euro vendors and they also offer the GP intercooler. So having found out all this......I've decided what I'm going to do.
I ordered GP1 goodies...including inserts! But it's gon be a bit.
So then...
I ordered a used trailing arm to get my car going.
At that time SPC upper and lower arms will be installed just to make the look underneath uniform.
When phase two starts I will add the aluminum arms, IC and all the other items I have and plan to order.

Were shooting for the Mini being operational next week!

There is more to come...I just need the hang ups to stop.
 
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2015 | 09:31 AM
  #138  
Saltysalt's Avatar
Saltysalt
6th Gear
10 Year Member
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,257
Likes: 15
From: Dover, NH
how much can you potentially get the GP intercooler for?
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2015 | 05:10 AM
  #139  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Saltysalt
how much can you potentially get the GP intercooler for?
Well by itself it's £625 without shipping from Hertfordshire UK

If you order other goodies (depending on what they are) goes down to £450
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 04:44 AM
  #140  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
UPDATE!
The Mini is back!

Just finished everything up yesterday with some new parts from MINI.

The New wheels look good IMO.











Now I can get going in the rest of the build!

I think I'm going to camber the front wheels in just a little more and this weekend I'm going to start hacking up these fender liners.

More to come .
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 05:26 AM
  #141  
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
Platinum Sponsor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 36,762
Likes: 2,551
From: Wadsworth, Ohio
Low that's low, yep the fender flares / liners are going to rub and pop out if they get bumped, will need to attention

Keep us posted.
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 05:50 AM
  #142  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by ECSTuning
Low that's low, yep the fender flares / liners are going to rub and pop out if they get bumped, will need to attention

Keep us posted.
The driver side popped out already!....first time I aired down yesterday

I bought two new ones from a friend of mine who.ended up.not using them for his mini

The fender arches have a weird 90° angle on the side closest to the tire. I'm going to start by removing that and removing.my fender liners.
I plan to affix a form fitted plexi cover to underside of hood to keep debris out while I'm travelling with the wheels tucked in the fenders during low cruise runs
 
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 01:12 PM
  #143  
PelicanParts.com's Avatar
PelicanParts.com
Vendor
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 7,188
Likes: 71
From: Harbor City, CA
Originally Posted by Spencer Roper
UPDATE!
The Mini is back!

Just finished everything up yesterday with some new parts from MINI.

The New wheels look good IMO.

Now I can get going in the rest of the build!

I think I'm going to camber the front wheels in just a little more and this weekend I'm going to start hacking up these fender liners.

More to come .
Siiick! Looks so good and those wheels fit much better. Very euro style. You should black out the chrome around your headlights!
 
__________________
Your Trusted Source For DIY and Parts
FREE SHIPPING over $99 click here
MINI Parts | DIY Help | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube | Promos
888.280.7799 | 6am - 5pm PST
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 01:46 PM
  #144  
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
Platinum Sponsor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 36,762
Likes: 2,551
From: Wadsworth, Ohio
Originally Posted by Spencer Roper
The driver side popped out already!....first time I aired down yesterday

I bought two new ones from a friend of mine who.ended up.not using them for his mini

The fender arches have a weird 90° angle on the side closest to the tire. I'm going to start by removing that and removing.my fender liners.
I plan to affix a form fitted plexi cover to underside of hood to keep debris out while I'm travelling with the wheels tucked in the fenders during low cruise runs
You will have to shave that plastic back and depending on how close might need for metal fender bending. Good luck.
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
Reply
Old Oct 1, 2015 | 10:06 PM
  #145  
batrugger's Avatar
batrugger
5th Gear
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,081
Likes: 0
From: Hesperia, Ca.
Wheels look really good, I love em.
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2015 | 02:07 PM
  #146  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by PelicanParts.com
Siiick! Looks so good and those wheels fit much better. Very euro style. You should black out the chrome around your headlights!
Thank you very much!
I have the gloss black trim ring assemblies that just clip in place of the chrome ones. I'm going to out them on once I finish up laying frame!
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2015 | 02:10 PM
  #147  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by batrugger
Wheels look really good, I love em.
Thank you. I really like the look as well as the extra + 10ET from my old 25ET. The 35ET just made everything fit much better.
 
Reply
Old Oct 4, 2015 | 02:26 PM
  #148  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Update!
I did some fender work on Friday and wanted to share the beginning parts of getting the Mini EVEN LOWER!

First I will say this....
The advantage of me shortening the strut boils down to two things.

I'm running 27psi now when I'm at my lowest (4 wheels tucked inside fender well while in motion). If I shorten the strut I can run I higher pressure and firm up the ride a bit more and make sure I have adequate resistance against pushing my tire into the sheet metal dwelling inside the plastic arches.
The second one is my car can go lower as I have clearanced some room now but the cars air strut bottoms out with room to spare for the wheel to travel inward. There is a threaded adjustment on every strut body that will allow me to dail the car in to its lowest physical point possible when aired out.


I started with the fender liners up front
I used a hook razor and traced down the liner









I noticed I have about 6" of room for the tire to keep moving when the strut bottomed out
Next I clearence cut the arches up front with a hook razor
I cut the inner most lip and tapered a flare out at the end of each arch to blend into the uncut sections of the lower arches









After that I did the same to.the rear sections
The wheel tucks even further now!









Next I'm.going to cut the metal behind the arches all the way up to the mount holes for the arches and shorten up the struts.
Hopefully front and rear tires will be fully tucked and we're almost laying frame

More to come
 

Last edited by Spencer Roper; Oct 5, 2015 at 06:29 AM.
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2015 | 06:33 AM
  #149  
Spencer Roper's Avatar
Spencer Roper
Thread Starter
|
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 258
Likes: 0
Just got this pic of my MINI through email and had to share it!

 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2015 | 07:55 AM
  #150  
Finhead's Avatar
Finhead
2nd Gear
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 150
Likes: 7
Very nice, really like the angle and effect.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:34 AM.