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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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Regarding tipping...

I used to be a server, so here's where tipping gets iffy. I don't think a tip should be expected. As a server, I RELIED on good tips, as I only made $2.13/hour (before tax, which made it more like $1/hour). However, with 75% of the population or so that came in, my good service constantly got me an average of 20% when it came to tips, higher than most of my coworkers. The trick is to treat your customers like human beings, not as people who you're just putting up with in hopes to get some cash out of them. Sometimes I'd have a GREAT table that didn't tip much, but I didn't really mind... not many people know how little servers actually make, and you can't blame them for that. Myself, I know how hard serving is, so I tip WAY too much. If I have a really good server, they can expect a tip as high as 50% (or more if its a cute girl, lol). However, if they're not very good, they'll get the standard 15%. If they're BAD, they get 8%, which is what they have to pay taxes on, just so they don't actually LOSE money by serving me. You actually have to TRY to be bad to get me to not tip at all, I think its only happened once. Many argue that if restaurants would pay their servers more then the tipping ordeal wouldn't be such an issue... but by having a much higher payroll (we generally make 8-13 dollars an hour serving, so they'd have to find a happy median), the prices of the food would also have to rise.

Oh, and does anyone else do this?: Sometimes mistakes happen at restaurants, like the food being REALLY late, and its very rarely the servers fault, often the server will send a manager to the table to talk to you. If this happens, and your meal gets comped, I tip the server whatever the meal would have been, minus the tip. So if it was a $65 meal, and $55 of it got comped (alcoholic beverages cannot be comped by law), I'd give the server the $55, as that's what I'd be spending anyways. Anyone else do that, or am I just insane?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 01:56 PM
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My wife and I brought our salesman Dinner at a nice Greek restaurant and brought along a blind date for him, sad to say the date didn't work out. But we had a nice time. :???:
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:12 PM
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8 ball you have heard of the randon acts of kindness group?..i have..i think they are very cool..any one else heard of the gruop of canadian guys treveling across the states and canada to perform random acts of kindness
have a look see at their web site
http://www.extremekindness.com/ :smile:
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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>>>>Wait a minute!
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>>Tips are a reward for something done outside of expectation. Maybe I have high expectations. But doing you job correctly is hardly doing it above what is expected.
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I hear what you're saying. But if you tip the paperboy, he'll deliver your paper first and it'll always be at your door instead of the bushes!


I like to tip for the EXTRA effort. My dealer, by making them start prepping MY MINI immediately (over the other MINIs on the truck) AND staying LATE so that I could run home and bring a bill (for proof of residence) and call my insurance company. He DIDN'T have to do that. He could have said the earliest we can do is tomorrow night. I was there a month ago when someone bought a BRG Cooper off the lot. She insisted that if she was to buy it "right now" that she wanted it that evening. They told her it couldn't be done - they had too many other MINIs ahead of her.

In my case, they already had my deposit, they knew I really wanted my car and my guy WENT THE EXTRA MILE. That's why I tipped him. Don't think I would have just for the heck of it. I wouldn't have. I have purchased cars that I really liked before. But I never liked a carsalesman or a dealership before. This was a first. So, yes, to those who asked, my dealship went beyond what most dealerships do and WHAT WE EXPECT from a dealer. Same can be said about my salesguy. He did above and beyond and I appreciated it above and beyond. Considering the industry (car sales) my experience was obviously above & beyond. Way beyond!
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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>>greatgro, if I give you my address, can your wife send some of those cookies to me?


Sure!
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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>>8 ball you have heard of the randon acts of kindness group?..i have..i think they are very cool..any one else heard of the gruop of canadian guys treveling across the states and canada to perform random acts of kindness
>>have a look see at their web site
>>http://www.extremekindness.com/ :smile:

Now THAT is totally cool. And learning about things like this is why I still stay engaged with this board (well, I guess the MINI advice is good too ).

MINI should become one of their sponsors!
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 05:20 PM
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I didn't tip my salesperson because she never returned my calls. But I tipped the person who delivered my car to my doorstep (Louisiana to Texas) because she picked my car up at 2 am, drove all night, and delivered my car to me at 10 am.

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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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I tip the bartender at my favorite tavern, and they always comp me. This is great cause some nights I'll come in and even if the bar is crowded, he knows my order and delivers my usual drinks first without charging me. It totally works out great and besides they have Guinness on tap, that type of service deserves a tip. I've been to some Japanese restaurants too where you pay at the counter and they always return your tip, one time we tried to insist on giving them the money and the owners made such a big fuss about it they just wouldn't accept it. In either case I'm not sure if I would tip someone like my car salesman or in this case motoring advisor, because I do feel kinda strange about it and he might think I'm coming on to him.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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I don't think it's weird. I just brought my sales person a 6-pack of Bass. Though it appropriate for the great service (Ralph Schomp MINI - Laura was my sales person). I also brought a 6-pack for the Technician over at service. I used to appreciate that jesture when I was a mechanic!
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:43 PM
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Well, If you paid over sticker.... you already tipped him.
 
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2002 | 06:58 PM
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>>Regarding tipping...
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>>Oh, and does anyone else do this?: Sometimes mistakes happen at restaurants, like the food being REALLY late, and its very rarely the servers fault, often the server will send a manager to the table to talk to you. If this happens, and your meal gets comped, I tip the server whatever the meal would have been, minus the tip. So if it was a $65 meal, and $55 of it got comped (alcoholic beverages cannot be comped by law), I'd give the server the $55, as that's what I'd be spending anyways. Anyone else do that, or am I just insane? :smile:


 
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 12:04 AM
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Speaking of bad service at resturants, (some did up there... honest... ) one day at one local restruant (small chain) we basically had NO service.. at the end of the meal the watress explained that she was chatting with one of her relatives that showed up... needless to say, that did NOT make up for ANYTHING... so in the tip box i just wrote "YOU GET NOTHING"... heh heh... ahhh... boy did that make up for the bad service...

Rocketboy_X
 
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Old Oct 19, 2002 | 09:32 AM
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Good job! Talking with relatives is no excuse. My parents would come in, I would sit with them, but I'd still attend to my tables. Oh well.
 
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