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Old 10-09-2018, 12:37 PM
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Does anybody else feel targeted?

So, I have now had an accident with my third Mini. Just crazy. I'm a safe driver, no points, no nothing. Well, a couple of failure to inspect which was just stupid on my part and just putting off what needed to be done.



January 30, 2015 Nasty weather, black ice, lost control with snow tires. Utility pole at about 35mph. This was at my hands, I acknowledge that.

June 4, 2017 Sitting at a dead stop in traffic, rear ended because guy was trying to weave thru traffic.

October 3, 2018 Sitting at a dead stop in traffic, rear ended because the little chickie was more interested in her oatmeal than traffic.
 
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Old 10-09-2018, 03:50 PM
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i swear if folks arent trying to speed ahead to cut me off they are trying to swerve directly into me! I know the car is small.. but it isnt hard to see!

*be safe out there! (as safe as you can be lol)
 
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Old 10-10-2018, 08:20 AM
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I drive everything from an F250 to motorcycles. There is a noticeable difference in the way other drivers operate around you depending on what you are driving.

I would not claim to be targeted, unless you phrase it as "targeted by idiots."
 
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:32 AM
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Two accidents in 9 months from purchase. Both other people's fault. It does feel like the odds are against me. I'm hoping my loud JCW Pro exhaust will at least make people aware of me while driving. Doesn't help when parked though.
 
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My wife has been hit a couple of times in the last few years, driving a VW Golf and a rental of some kind. I would hardly classify it as targeted. Anytime you are driving something smaller than the normal SUV of the current world you are possibly going to get lost in the eye of the other driver. That is if they are even looking.

When I drove a motorcycle I often felt invisible or that people didn't really care if they nudged me out of my lane.

OP you are just coincidentally and randomly beaten and battered. Sorry for your troubles, maybe the next 10 years will be clean driving.
 
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:09 AM
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Two accidents in 9 months from purchase. Both other people's fault. It does feel like the odds are against me. I'm hoping my loud JCW Pro exhaust will at least make people aware of me while driving. Doesn't help when parked though.
Good luck, the loud bikes don't really make a difference.
 
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:42 PM
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I have found over the years that in my area at least, most accidents seem like they are caused mostly by people not paying attention. There is always the usual stupidity at play as well (guilty myself) but I am always almost getting hit , not by being targeted, but just simply by being there! In that place at the wrong time. Usually it’s folks changing lanes without looking or signaling, or something avoidable if they were a bit more aware.
 
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Old 10-11-2018, 03:25 AM
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I have found over the years that in my area at least, most accidents seem like they are caused mostly by people not paying attention. There is always the usual stupidity at play as well (guilty myself) but I am always almost getting hit , not by being targeted, but just simply by being there! In that place at the wrong time. Usually itís folks changing lanes without looking or signaling, or something avoidable if they were a bit more aware.
This ^

About once a month there's a really crazy commute day where I am hyper vigilant and actively react to multiple near collisions. Had I been more aware of nearby cars on the last accident, I might have avoided it - somehow. Then again, maybe not.
 
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Just got a Mini to help ease the mileage I'm putting on my Ford Expedition. It is definitely noticeable the difference in how others behave around me in the two vehicles. However, I drive the Mini in the same way I ride motorcycles. I always assume nobody sees me and I stay the hell away from everybody else. Even if it means taking an alternate route than the rest of traffic such as in morning or evening rush hour (the country road instead of the highway). Also, staying out of clumps of other vehicles by either slowing down or speeding up to keep away from them. (I'm an attorney so I'm not too afraid of speeding tickets).

A good combination of offensive and defensive driving can help when driving a small vehicle. Certainly being rear ended while stopped in traffic can't be entirely prevented. But, never hurts to look for the other paths to the same place that everyone else doesn't know about or doesn't want to use.
 
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Old 02-15-2019, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Kcyotz View Post
Just got a Mini to help ease the mileage I'm putting on my Ford Expedition. It is definitely noticeable the difference in how others behave around me in the two vehicles. However, I drive the Mini in the same way I ride motorcycles. I always assume nobody sees me and I stay the hell away from everybody else. Even if it means taking an alternate route than the rest of traffic such as in morning or evening rush hour (the country road instead of the highway). Also, staying out of clumps of other vehicles by either slowing down or speeding up to keep away from them. (I'm an attorney so I'm not too afraid of speeding tickets).

A good combination of offensive and defensive driving can help when driving a small vehicle. Certainly being rear ended while stopped in traffic can't be entirely prevented. But, never hurts to look for the other paths to the same place that everyone else doesn't know about or doesn't want to use.
Besides the fact that taking the alternative route is what a Mini is all about! Get off the the busy road and take it through the twisties with a smile! Less stress and more fun!
 
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i had someone with road rage jump out and kick my tailgate on m mini... i have a huge dent.. i jumped out and he took off over a curb so i couldnt get him... waiting to get a carbon fiber hood to buy the carbon fiber hatch to match....
 
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i had someone with road rage jump out and kick my tailgate on m mini... i have a huge dent.. i jumped out and he took off over a curb so i couldnt get him... waiting to get a carbon fiber hood to buy the carbon fiber hatch to match....
Well, that's a ***** (sorry about the language). Hopefully they broke a toe or messed up their suspension in the process. Or, 5 miles down the road they got pulled over by a cop and got a ticket.

At least you get to buy a cool bit of carbon fiber out of the incident.
 
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I will tell you that air horns make a difference. I even had them on my motorcycle. Just as soon as you notice someone not paying attention, give it a rip (try to find horns over 125db) and I'll guarantee they'll move out of your way. You also get a LOT of middle fingers from startled drivers but that's amusing and their problem for being an idiot.
 
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Old 02-15-2019, 04:14 PM
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People knowing you are there is helpful. But, frankly I don't think people care. They look at a small car/motorcycle as a non-threat vs and big truck. Staying away from other cars is the most helpful. It gives you time to respond when they do something dangerous.

Anyone who doesn't ride motorcycles would be wise to read up on motorcycle safety and use some of the strategies when driving a car. Here is a link to a booklet from a motorcycle safety organization. Section 7 onward is a good read.

https://www.msf-usa.org/downloads/BRCHandbook.pdf

 
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Originally Posted by Kcyotz View Post
People knowing you are there is helpful. But, frankly I don't think people care. They look at a small car/motorcycle as a non-threat vs and big truck. Staying away from other cars is the most helpful. It gives you time to respond when they do something dangerous.

Anyone who doesn't ride motorcycles would be wise to read up on motorcycle safety and use some of the strategies when driving a car. Here is a link to a booklet from a motorcycle safety organization. Section 7 onward is a good read.

https://www.msf-usa.org/downloads/BRCHandbook.pdf
This is good advice! As someone else mentioned before as well, they drive their Mini like they ride their bike. I used to ride too, so it comes sort of naturally to me to assume that other cars canít see me. It has served me well so far. Almost 30 years on the road now, and Iím still here!
Not That ive never been in an accident, but never at fault, and only minor damage.
 
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Originally Posted by MrGrumpy View Post

This is good advice! As someone else mentioned before as well, they drive their Mini like they ride their bike. I used to ride too, so it comes sort of naturally to me to assume that other cars canít see me. It has served me well so far. Almost 30 years on the road now, and Iím still here!
Not That ive never been in an accident, but never at fault, and only minor damage.
Yep. 35 years for me on the roads between sports cars, small cars, big cars, hot rods, trucks and motorcycles. Many, many times running fast through fun curves as well.

Knock on wood.
 
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What I find disturbing is the auto manufacturers adding (susceptible to failure) nanny devices that are advertised as removing the operators responsibility for situational awareness. We can now turn around and visit with the back seat passenger knowing that the car will stop if a semi enters the intersection just as we do. Responsible motor vehicle operation comes down to: DRT, distance=rate*time, relative bearing drift and closing/opening range rate also known as 'pay 'tention dummy'.
 
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What I find disturbing is the auto manufacturers adding (susceptible to failure) nanny devices that are advertised as removing the operators responsibility for situational awareness. We can now turn around and visit with the back seat passenger knowing that the car will stop if a semi enters the intersection just as we do. Responsible motor vehicle operation comes down to: DRT, distance=rate*time, relative bearing drift and closing/opening range rate also known as 'pay 'tention dummy'.
I agree. Cars are so "safe" that some people seem to treat driving the same as walking through a crowd. The just ***-ume everyone else will get out of their way or just bounce off.
 
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I will tell you that air horns make a difference. I even had them on my motorcycle. Just as soon as you notice someone not paying attention, give it a rip (try to find horns over 125db) and I'll guarantee they'll move out of your way. You also get a LOT of middle fingers from startled drivers but that's amusing and their problem for being an idiot.
Loud horns are the best. I love people who give you the finger because they aren't paying attention. Stupidity knows no bounds.

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What I find disturbing is the auto manufacturers adding (susceptible to failure) nanny devices that are advertised as removing the operators responsibility for situational awareness. We can now turn around and visit with the back seat passenger knowing that the car will stop if a semi enters the intersection just as we do. Responsible motor vehicle operation comes down to: DRT, distance=rate*time, relative bearing drift and closing/opening range rate also known as 'pay 'tention dummy'.
Don't worry, the idiocracy will only continue to get worse.
 
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My neighbor has been targeted by deer ... two of her cars have been taken out by them. I'm not suggesting there is a group of deer colluding to provide a constant threat and the occasional suicidal attack on her as a targeted individual. However according to the dark wood (the deer version of the dark web) there are current horn scraps and rutting evidence pointing to a possible attack that my take place in the near future.

Motor On! And watch out for them deer ....
 
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I will tell you that air horns make a difference. I even had them on my motorcycle. Just as soon as you notice someone not paying attention, give it a rip (try to find horns over 125db) and I'll guarantee they'll move out of your way. You also get a LOT of middle fingers from startled drivers but that's amusing and their problem for being an idiot.
"Air Horns" are definitely the ticket which I also had on my sidecar since sold after my Dog Spirit passed away. Awareness and mostly patience has also much to do as following motorcycle riding rules pointed out in one of the post above. "Need to be seen" always helps. It is actually much easier to add lights to a motorcycle/sidecar than a car. I had 7 front headlights and 2 facing rear for tailgaters pointed at their eyes. Also running lights and many reflective strips. As many as I could mount. Spirit and I actually camped full time off the sidecar for 14 years up and down following the good weather between Mexico and Alaska without a single accident. Breakages? Yes... 5000+ nights in a tent.
Here in Alamogordo, NM, for example, drivers have NO CLUE what a stop sign is at intersections! I wait... I have time and patience. I often laugh out loud! [I am retired].
The troubling drivers are generally the younger ones with for example Subaru WRX or any other performance car. They want to show off that they are faster and I let it be. My enjoyment are the many miles of Mountain roads starting a mile from my house going up to 9400'.
Keep in mind it is legal here in the City to drive and talk on the phone to your ear at the same time. Add a cheeseburger in hand, make up kit in progress with the visor down, a few kids screaming in the back seat and you have a nice disastrous cocktail!
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What upgrades did you have to do to that bike's charging system to handle the added load on the system? That is a lot of lights for a motorcycle.
 
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Beemerchef - great photo! Spirit looks chill. That's a wonderful ride/drive from Alamogordo up to Cloudcroft.
 
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What upgrades did you have to do to that bike's charging system to handle the added load on the system? That is a lot of lights for a motorcycle.
None really! The BMW GS has a huge alternator. I believe a bit over 500W but don't hold me to it. I rarely ran all the lights at the same time, three for sure always and the rest for off road when no moon...

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Beemerchef - great photo! Spirit looks chill. That's a wonderful ride/drive from Alamogordo up to Cloudcroft.
Spirit was quite a Dog!!! Imagine your Dog with you for 14 years 24/7 camping off the grid! I always say, we did not even need to talk... [but we did!]. I sure miss my Buddy. He taught me a lot and we truly rescued each other.
#82 is a nice drive indeed but while moving on further 244 to Ruidoso is great, 130 also and both with never cops on them. Cloudcroft is where they waited for me genrally while they are not allowed to make a U turn on 82 from Alamogordo. Only put their lights on while I would wave. Oh! well...




 
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That photo is awesome. Great dog.
 
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