Unhappy customer torches Ford Dealership in Miami
Originally Posted by mbabischkin
Since when is vigilante justice called for or even legal?
Even in the Banana Republic of Miami there are laws. This guy didn't seek legal advice, he didn't consult with an attorney. No, he just decided to take things into his own hands and a)destroy the car he paid for (even if he wasn't happy with how much he paid for it) and b) has probably now forfeited any possibility of getting restitution if in fact he had been wronged in the first place, and on top of that he'll probably land his butt in jail...
What he did wasn't wise, prudent, or called for. Not only was it illegal, but it put lives at risk too. I would bet that once the dealership collects the insurance money and makes their repairs that they'll go right back to doing business they way they were in the past...
Never mind the fact that we don't know what the deal looked like, if this guy was actually screwed or if he either just didn't pay attention (entirely possible) or just can't add. Instead we have the flawed argument that "well I/my friend/relative was screwed once by a dealer in Miami, therefore all dealers in Miami must be crooks."
Gimme a break.
Even in the Banana Republic of Miami there are laws. This guy didn't seek legal advice, he didn't consult with an attorney. No, he just decided to take things into his own hands and a)destroy the car he paid for (even if he wasn't happy with how much he paid for it) and b) has probably now forfeited any possibility of getting restitution if in fact he had been wronged in the first place, and on top of that he'll probably land his butt in jail...
What he did wasn't wise, prudent, or called for. Not only was it illegal, but it put lives at risk too. I would bet that once the dealership collects the insurance money and makes their repairs that they'll go right back to doing business they way they were in the past...
Never mind the fact that we don't know what the deal looked like, if this guy was actually screwed or if he either just didn't pay attention (entirely possible) or just can't add. Instead we have the flawed argument that "well I/my friend/relative was screwed once by a dealer in Miami, therefore all dealers in Miami must be crooks."
Gimme a break.

It is crazy unsual practices of this kind that gets the attention of the Law makers to make changes and rewrite laws to protect the powerless consumers.I am sure pretty soon more people will surface and bring their stories on the table about that dealership.
Did you say "consult with an attorney...",you must have too much faith in the system,
sounds like you are out of touch
,dont take it to the bank,I am just joking
Last,I been there and you havent.
Did you say "consult with an attorney...",you must have too much faith in the system,
sounds like you are out of touch
,dont take it to the bank,I am just jokingLast,I been there and you havent.
Originally Posted by mbabischkin
Since when is vigilante justice called for or even legal?
Even in the Banana Republic of Miami there are laws. This guy didn't seek legal advice, he didn't consult with an attorney. No, he just decided to take things into his own hands and a)destroy the car he paid for (even if he wasn't happy with how much he paid for it) and b) has probably now forfeited any possibility of getting restitution if in fact he had been wronged in the first place, and on top of that he'll probably land his butt in jail...
What he did wasn't wise, prudent, or called for. Not only was it illegal, but it put lives at risk too. I would bet that once the dealership collects the insurance money and makes their repairs that they'll go right back to doing business they way they were in the past...
Never mind the fact that we don't know what the deal looked like, if this guy was actually screwed or if he either just didn't pay attention (entirely possible) or just can't add. Instead we have the flawed argument that "well I/my friend/relative was screwed once by a dealer in Miami, therefore all dealers in Miami must be crooks."
Gimme a break.
Even in the Banana Republic of Miami there are laws. This guy didn't seek legal advice, he didn't consult with an attorney. No, he just decided to take things into his own hands and a)destroy the car he paid for (even if he wasn't happy with how much he paid for it) and b) has probably now forfeited any possibility of getting restitution if in fact he had been wronged in the first place, and on top of that he'll probably land his butt in jail...
What he did wasn't wise, prudent, or called for. Not only was it illegal, but it put lives at risk too. I would bet that once the dealership collects the insurance money and makes their repairs that they'll go right back to doing business they way they were in the past...
Never mind the fact that we don't know what the deal looked like, if this guy was actually screwed or if he either just didn't pay attention (entirely possible) or just can't add. Instead we have the flawed argument that "well I/my friend/relative was screwed once by a dealer in Miami, therefore all dealers in Miami must be crooks."
Gimme a break.

Originally Posted by BartMack
I COMPLETELY agree with you except for the very last thing you said.. the newspaper and even the police concede that it is a significant problem there.. ie "Miami-Dade police say they regularly get calls to auto dealerships from people upset with their car purchase, and the Consumer Federation of America says auto dealer fraud tops it’s list of complaints."
Originally Posted by cooperaki
It is crazy unsual practices of this kind that gets the attention of the Law makers to make changes and rewrite laws to protect the powerless consumers.I am sure pretty soon more people will surface and bring their stories on the table about that dealership.
Last,I been there and you havent.

Been where?
Miami FL? Yup used to live and work there...
Screwed by a dealer? Yup, been there done that...
Drove my car through a plate glass window and torched it and a car dealership? Nope never done that, have you?

There's the bottom line here though... Even if he did in fact get screwed by the dealership, how does this fix it? How does this get his money back? What makes you think the dealer isn't going to do this again once their back in business? The only thing this will do is land this idiot's butt in jail on arson charges...
And once again I'll ask you the same question: Since when is vigilante justice called for or even legal?
Originally Posted by paulr
Should this guy even be out on bond?
Lets get to the real important point. What the hell is it that government jobs do to people that cause them to just go nuts?? Can you explain that to me? There's always been that thing postal office shootings that I never paid second thought too, but recently there have been a couple in the news and then this guy...
Sorry guys but I am very happy nobody got hurt but I feel no sympathy for ANY car dealership! I have been screwed and who dood almost eveytime I bought a car, bottom line is they are there to make money and if they cant screw you good enough then they wont give you the deal. JUst like Ron "Tater Salad" White said, I hate car salesman but nobody else sells cars so you have no choice.
Originally Posted by Outbackbob
Just heard on the news this guy hung himself in the bathroom on a flight on the way to the west coast.
Real nut case that one.
Wonder if that's a first? Will they now outlaw neckties on airplanes?
Real nut case that one.

Wonder if that's a first? Will they now outlaw neckties on airplanes?
Here is the news clip:
Man Who Drove SUV Into Dealership Kills Self Onboard Flight
POSTED: 11:38 am EST February 9, 2006
UPDATED: 1:38 pm EST February 9, 2006
MIAMI -- The man who drove his new SUV into a Miami-Dade Ford dealership and set it on fire killed himself while onboard a commercial flight.
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Gerard Georgettis was charged with arson and criminal mischief after the incident Saturday afternoon at Metro Ford in Miami.
The Federal Aviation Administration said a passenger was found dead in the bathroom of a United Airlines plane Wednesday night. The man apparently hanged himself.
The plane was flying from Washington, D.C., to Los Angeles and was diverted to Denver.
The Denver Medical Examiner's Office confirmed that the man was Georgettis. Medical examiner's spokeswoman Michelle Weiss-Samaras said an autopsy was planned.
Denver police detective Virginia Lopez said no other passengers on the United flight were ever in danger.
"Right now, everything leads us to believe the male involved did commit suicide," she said.
The fire at Metro Ford caused about $1 million in damage.
NBC 6's Nick Bogert spoke with Georgettis on Monday. He said he regretted his actions.
"It was just stupid," Georgettis said.
NBC 6 is gathering details on this story and will have more information as it becomes available.
Absolutely terrible!
Man Who Drove SUV Into Dealership Kills Self Onboard Flight
POSTED: 11:38 am EST February 9, 2006
UPDATED: 1:38 pm EST February 9, 2006
MIAMI -- The man who drove his new SUV into a Miami-Dade Ford dealership and set it on fire killed himself while onboard a commercial flight.
Previous Images
Gerard Georgettis was charged with arson and criminal mischief after the incident Saturday afternoon at Metro Ford in Miami.
The Federal Aviation Administration said a passenger was found dead in the bathroom of a United Airlines plane Wednesday night. The man apparently hanged himself.
The plane was flying from Washington, D.C., to Los Angeles and was diverted to Denver.
The Denver Medical Examiner's Office confirmed that the man was Georgettis. Medical examiner's spokeswoman Michelle Weiss-Samaras said an autopsy was planned.
Denver police detective Virginia Lopez said no other passengers on the United flight were ever in danger.
"Right now, everything leads us to believe the male involved did commit suicide," she said.
The fire at Metro Ford caused about $1 million in damage.
NBC 6's Nick Bogert spoke with Georgettis on Monday. He said he regretted his actions.
"It was just stupid," Georgettis said.
NBC 6 is gathering details on this story and will have more information as it becomes available.
Absolutely terrible!
It appears to be that this guy was of Australian descent or nationality and it was believed he was headed back to the land down under. However, an international connecting flight ticket was not yet found on him.
I just don't understand how this person was even allowed to leave town, much less the country after what he did???
It is clear he was fleeing justice. Oh well.
I just don't understand how this person was even allowed to leave town, much less the country after what he did???
It is clear he was fleeing justice. Oh well.
Originally Posted by C4
It is clear he was fleeing justice. Oh well.
How is committing suicide, "clear he was fleeing justice"?
Sounds more like a guy who went off his medication and ended up in a heap of trouble and took the only way out his mentally disturbed mind could find. Lot less sensational than a foreigner fleeing justice, but probably closer to the truth.
Originally Posted by C4
Mbabischkin, in what part of Miami you used to live? How long ago?
I've got family down there so I tend to find myself in South Florida at least annually, and was actually down in Ft Lauderdale just last week (I was the one who took Lauderdale MINI's last 3 Whiptastic Handling stickers
) and made a brief side trip to the Port of Miami as well...
Originally Posted by mbabischkin
Last time I actually lived down there was about 7 years ago. Lived in Coral Springs and then moved to Pembroke Pines. Commuted to the Brickel Federal Building and also spent some time over in Miami Lakes.
I've got family down there so I tend to find myself in South Florida at least annually, and was actually down in Ft Lauderdale just last week (I was the one who took Lauderdale MINI's last 3 Whiptastic Handling stickers
) and made a brief side trip to the Port of Miami as well...
I've got family down there so I tend to find myself in South Florida at least annually, and was actually down in Ft Lauderdale just last week (I was the one who took Lauderdale MINI's last 3 Whiptastic Handling stickers
) and made a brief side trip to the Port of Miami as well...Next time you are downhere, give me a heads up and maybe you could join us in one of our Thrusday night meets (Miami Lakes or West Kendall).
Originally Posted by CDMINI
Riddle me this, Batman
How is committing suicide, "clear he was fleeing justice"?
Sounds more like a guy who went off his medication and ended up in a heap of trouble and took the only way out his mentally disturbed mind could find. Lot less sensational than a foreigner fleeing justice, but probably closer to the truth.
How is committing suicide, "clear he was fleeing justice"?
Sounds more like a guy who went off his medication and ended up in a heap of trouble and took the only way out his mentally disturbed mind could find. Lot less sensational than a foreigner fleeing justice, but probably closer to the truth.

I betcha that if this guy had been a Hispanic, Mexican or Haitian (And most likely illegal) or whatnot he would have landed in jail automatically with no bond and set for final deportation at the Krome detention center. It seems to me that because he was an Australian citizen, then he received a different treatment and was allowed to freely roam around and ultimately be allowed to escape.
He was a dangerous guy (Contrary to what his former attorney said) and by giving this guy a "free pass" to freedom by our local police, they endangered other people in the process. What about if this guy had gone henwire during that flight and attacked another passenger? Think about it..
You got to love our "selective" justice system
Originally Posted by C4
Obviously this dude was mentally disturbed.
He was a dangerous guy (Contrary to what his former attorney said) and by giving this guy a "free pass" to freedom by our local police, they endangered other people in the process. What about if this guy had gone henwire during that flight and attacked another passenger? Think about it..
He was a dangerous guy (Contrary to what his former attorney said) and by giving this guy a "free pass" to freedom by our local police, they endangered other people in the process. What about if this guy had gone henwire during that flight and attacked another passenger? Think about it..
A few short words, but much said by their usage. In setting bail, the judge must review both whether the accused is a danger to society, and whether s/he poses a flight risk. Maybe in this case the court got it all wrong. But judging from his past brush with the law (long ago), and the fact that he was a contributing member to society the bail probably seemed like a good idea at the time.
Very sad and tragic tale.
Very bad indeed.
I still contend if this person had been a non-Anglo things would have been handled differently.
But looking back into the story how sad to see how a person's life got destroyed practically overnight due to a measly car purchase. Sure the "bad deal" was a trigger to a pre-existing deeper mental problem but if a Judge sees what this person was capable of doing at least he should have recommended house arrest or have him sent to a mental institution. This guy should have never ever been let go back into the street.
Judges make very poor decisions all the time and this one is no exception.
I still contend if this person had been a non-Anglo things would have been handled differently.
But looking back into the story how sad to see how a person's life got destroyed practically overnight due to a measly car purchase. Sure the "bad deal" was a trigger to a pre-existing deeper mental problem but if a Judge sees what this person was capable of doing at least he should have recommended house arrest or have him sent to a mental institution. This guy should have never ever been let go back into the street.
Judges make very poor decisions all the time and this one is no exception.




& then to pay too much.