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Old Nov 17, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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It's been such a long time since I took it apart!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Update: I went to the dealership on Saturday to meet with the MINI service manager. We had a very good, healthy conversation on the problems with the car right now. I supplied to him printed out posts from the last week on this thread (selectively chosen for useful technical data), as well as a copy of 03ibmini's PMs, regarding the DPSM amp resolution he got from his dealership.

He was very thankful for the input, and agreed that we need to ensure the wiring is healthy & in good shape as a baseline for any further troubleshooting.

He was going to read through all of the materials I gave him, and pass them along to the night shift manager, and several techs. He even thought of another tech who worked there that would probably be good at wire testing, which would at least give some relief to the main tech working on my car.

Thanks again to everyone for your help & support... I'm going out there again tonight to meet with the main tech, who should be back from vacation!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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I'm going out there again tonight to meet with the main tech, who should be back from vacation!
He's going to need another vacation once he's finally done with Mr. OEM...
 
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Minor update: I did go out to MoS last night, met up with the tech, and filled him in on the info & discussion I had with the service manager. He was surprised at Dan/PGT's results, and agreed as well that proper testing needs to be done to ensure there's no wiring issue.

Since a replacement DPSM harness has already been tried, we can reasonably speculate that there may be a wiring problem in the OEM Boost audio wiring harness. Worst case scenario would be replacing that harness... it's a good thing it is now a separate harness from the main harness! However they may simply run a new wire to replace any found defective.

I told him that as long as whatever they do is properly supported for warranty work, I didn't care how they fixed it.

Hopefully thorough wiring testing will happen this week, although Thanksgiving is likely to throw a wrench into that. I'll stop by next Monday again for an update.

Side note - he said that he doesn't think there's a pinout diagram for the DPSM amp on the systems he has access to, either.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 04:51 PM
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Haemish - I'd be happy to talk to the tech if you want....give him my #...I'm up late with the little one these days
 

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 05:44 PM
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Haemish - I'd be happy to talk to the tech if you want....give him my #...I'm up late with the little one these days
Thanks for the offer... when I stop by next Monday night, I'll let him know. I only have your cell # - I gather that is the one you meant.

One point of clarity - how late is OK? Remember, he works until something like 3 or 4 in the morning. I just want to give him a cut-off time so that he doesn't have to feel awkward about the time he calls, if he chooses to.
 

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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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I'm usually up until at least midnight, but the phone stays downstairs so if I'm already asleep, it won't bother me
 
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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I'm usually up until at least midnight, but the phone stays downstairs so if I'm already asleep, it won't bother me
Perfect - thanks...

Incidentally, I edited your post and mine to remove the tech's name... I'm not sure that he wants his name specifically stated online, so I've always referred to him as "the tech", just as a courtesy.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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sure thing
 
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Old Nov 21, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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The amp area, should have a drip shield. My amp shorts when it rains. I am thinking of moving to the Gobi Desert. Does anyone have a mapquest on that, live in NC
 
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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Anything for Mr. OEM to be thankful for this year?
 
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GBMINI
I think the H/K amp *is* also a digital amp
If it is, I stand corrected. I had assumed not because I have not seen MINI describe it as such. When a product has a digital amp, the fact is usually publicized as a selling point (for DPSM, they went so far as to put "Digital Power" in its name). I know that the H/K does have digital signal processing in its preamp.
I just noticed in MotoringFile's post of the MINIUSA 2008 Convertible Press Kit that it does describe the H/K amp as digital. I may have missed it in other literature.
 
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rkw
I just noticed in MotoringFile's post of the MINIUSA 2008 Convertible Press Kit that it does describe the H/K amp as digital. I may have missed it in other literature.
I don't think you missed it - I've never seen the H/K amp described as "digital" in any of the literature either. But based on the rated power, wiring, size and location of the amp, it really couldn't be anything *but* a digital-switching amp.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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So, any update? You usually go on Monday and it is now Wednesday.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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quick question .. w/o reading all entries of the thread .. is Mr. OEM back home or still @ MoS? the last time we were waiting for the "delivery" was the end of Sept. at Mark's BBQ..
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Still at MoS. In our last episode () our hero was undergoing additional wiring testing when a visiting surgeon discovered an issue in that area.
As for now, I think we're on hold until the writer's strike is over.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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I did go to MoS on Monday night. There really wasn't much development, as the tech only worked Monday & Tuesday nights last week (due to Thanksgiving). However, he reported that he had done some wire testing after our last conversation, and yes indeed he was able to repeat Dan/PGT's test results and found the left rear speaker wire to not tone out. The belief is that the wiring issue is in the "factory" (i.e. replacement) audio harness, not the DPSM harness, although I'm not sure that he had tested them separately yet.

And Marina (lastrega), you can find out whether my car is back at any time simply by looking at my signature.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Not to mention that I'm sure there will be great fanfare when you get your car back. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised to see a general announcement and a front page post when you get your car back Edge.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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Even when your beloved is return, it is still sad to know that I won't be able to add the DPSM. Thanks for taking one for the team and I hope it happens soon!
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Even when your beloved is return, it is still sad to know that I won't be able to add the DPSM. Thanks for taking one for the team and I hope it happens soon!
You have the H/K, huh? Well, you still have the option of trading in your MCSC for a new 2007 or 2008 one, without H/K... and then adding the DPSM.

Unfortunately, those of us who prefer the 1st Gen hardtops don't have that luxury, since they aren't manufactured any more.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Even when your beloved is return, it is still sad to know that I won't be able to add the DPSM. Thanks for taking one for the team and I hope it happens soon!
Didn't GBMINI say that you can do a fairly simple cut/splice to install the DPSM in an HK car?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Didn't GBMINI say that you can do a fairly simple cut/splice to install the DPSM in an HK car?
He did
Of course ... simple to me may or may not be simple to others.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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You said simple, not simple for Ian.
I mean, it is just splicing wires right, no designing circuits, BOMs, or production processes?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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and yes indeed he was able to repeat Dan/PGT's test results and found the left rear speaker wire to not tone out.
perhaps they should teach Wire Theory 101 at the next MINI Tech School. Seems all they've taught so far is the 'open a new box and slap a part on' solution to troubleshooting.
 
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