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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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FS: The WMS "MULE"

Yes it is true... After its success in the numerous SCCA races, autox, and the NAMCC circuit, the Mule is up for sale.

This is said to be one of, if not "the fastest road racing MINI" in the country. It is a fully race sorted 300+ hp Twincharged race MINI.

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2002 Chili Red MCS
Just under 15,000 miles

WMS Custom built roll cage
FIA 5 point harness
Extensive weight reduction
WMS Custom fully adjustable aluminum front splitter
WMS Custom Aluminum rear diffuser
17x7.5 Silver Kosei K1s with shaved(4/32) Toyo RA1s(one race on the tires)
17x7 Silver Team Dynamic Pro Race 1s mounted with Goodyear Eagle F1s(never used)
H-Sport Competition Front and Rear swaybars
Front and Rear adjustable drop links
Leda Coilovers
Helix Camber Plates
H-sport rear Lower Control arms
Gintani Water to Air intercooler/intake manifold
Helix TurboKompressor Kit Installed by WMS
WMS head with Custom WMS cam
WMS custom 3" exhaust with Adjustable sound direction
UUC Stage 3 clutch
UUC Light weight flywheel
Quaife LSD

There are various other modifications not mentioned in this list to cut down on list length. Please e-mail, call, or PM for complete list.

Randy is selling it so he can put money back into the company and invest in a 2007 MCS.

Looking for $30,000 OBO. This car has an estimated $85,000 invested in it.

You can check out some video of the Mule on the track at Summit point here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYDXufzJyc

-Brian

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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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In that last pic, I think thats the most body roll I've ever seen in a MINI! lol.

Good luck with the sale. I bet it'll go fast.
 
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 08:23 PM
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I wish I could have another car and that $30,000 was chump change!

BTW, Is there a warranty? lol
 
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 08:53 PM
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What's with the exhaust pointing to the right? Ha? I prefer to hang to the left.

Brian, I don't have 30 G's, but ask Randy if he will take a twelve pack and a picture of Bruce Lee in trade.
 
Old Jul 22, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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What's with the exhaust pointing to the right? Ha? I prefer to hang to the left.

Brian, I don't have 30 G's, but ask Randy if he will take a twelve pack and a picture of Bruce Lee in trade.
Hmm, what kind of Beer?

The exhaust is turnable so you can point it away from sound meters. I liked the megaphone the most though.

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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I thought the Mule was wrecked in a race or was that a roumor?
 
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I thought the Mule was wrecked in a race or was that a roumor?
Who cares.... , It's the fastest Mini in the country!
Best to pull out when your ahead I guess. Don't want to have to race against a car that actually has working brakes...

Wondering if a central air system comes with all that ductwork in the back..
What's that supposed to be anyway? :impatient


...This is said to be one of, if not "the fastest road racing MINI" in the country...
Who said that ??.....
 
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Wondering if a central air system comes with all that ductwork in the back..
What's that supposed to be anyway? :impatient



Who said that ??.....
Underbody rear diffuser...one that actually looks like it would work...
 
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Originally Posted by onasled



Who said that ??.....
Why, Randy of coarse!

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Is it street legal as it sits now?
 
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Underbody rear diffuser...one that actually looks like it would work...
.... I might have to disagree about it being a rear diffuser, especially one that works.
That might be an attempt at a rear diffuser, but that mess has got to create way more drag then it does downforce. I might bet no downforce at all....

This is a rear diffuser....

 
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by onasled
Who cares.... , It's the fastest Mini in the country!
Best to pull out when your ahead I guess. Don't want to have to race against a car that actually has working brakes...

Wondering if a central air system comes with all that ductwork in the back..
What's that supposed to be anyway? :impatient



Who said that ??.....
Fastest MINI in the country??? Not with that turbo.
 
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Originally Posted by Da Boy
Is it street legal as it sits now?
 
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by onasled
.... I might have to disagree about it being a rear diffuser, especially one that works.
That might be an attempt at a rear diffuser, but that mess has got to create way more drag then it does downforce. I might bet no downforce at all....

This is a rear diffuser....

I am guessing you are basing this assumption off of your many years of race car design, right?

Well say what you like, but as soon as we tested that piece the car under steered like mad. We added the front splitter to dial it out.

And no, it is not street legal.

Fastest "Road Racing" MINI. I believe FBT holds the fastest MINI title.


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Originally Posted by Brian@WebbMotorsports
I am guessing you are basing this assumption off of your many years of race car design, right?...

-Brian
Right. That and sailboat design.

Anyway,
Where did you test the car to find that it under steered like mad? Better yet, when did you test the car to then find out you needed to add splitter? As I remember the story there was "..no shake down time at all..." before the race, and you had the splitter on there.

At what speed did you feel that it under steered like mad?

Anyone who knows aero would laugh at that 'diffuser'.
 
Old Jul 23, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by onasled
Right. That and sailboat design.

Anyway,
Where did you test the car to find that it under steered like mad? Better yet, when did you test the car to then find out you needed to add splitter? As I remember the story there was "..no shake down time at all..." before the race, and you had the splitter on there.

At what speed did you feel that it under steered like mad?

Anyone who knows aero would laugh at that 'diffuser'.
Are you seriously looking for another argument? It seems that’s all you do now days. If you dont have anything to contribute here, please leave.

But if you must know, we tested the diffuser out in St. Louis before he added the splitter for Summit point. He told me he was experiencing under steer while rotating the car into turn one (75-80mph) and also while coming onto the oval after the infield section (accelerating from around 45mph). The splitter brought it back into balance at Summit.


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Originally Posted by Brian@WebbMotorsports
Are you seriously looking for another argument? It seems that’s all you do now days. If you dont have anything to contribute here, please leave.-Brian
Amen !! Why don't you worry about building your own car! Get up from the computer and go to the shop.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:02 PM
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Seriously, let's get this thread back on track.

As a reminder: this is a For Sale thread in the Marketplace forum.


 
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Dave, sorry about going off track here. I was just commenting on the content, but I agree that it went off track.

Brian, Sorry, I was confused because I did read that "During the racers' first practice lap, Randy Webb overcooked the number 93 car into turn one..." at "..over 90 mph into the wall" so I was unaware that he had time to test this contraption. I guess he had taken turn one a few times before he crashed the wall at over 90 mph.

Sorry about that. I'll try and continue to stay out of any threads that have to do with Webb.
 
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by onasled
Anyone who knows aero would laugh at that 'diffuser'.
You don't even have to know aero to laugh at it.
 
Old Jul 24, 2006 | 07:04 AM
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You just have to get a last dig in, don't you?
Nice photo in your sig. Did YOU take it?
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winner for dumbest comment. nice sig, did you make it?

come on now let WMS try selling their car in peace.
 



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