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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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This is what happens to bad sellers

I don't know if it has been posted here (did a search for Wenzel and came up with nuttin') but this punk *ss kid Charlie Wenzel got OWNED on pirate4x4.com for trying to rip off a guy for $25.

Not sure if this belongs here but I recently got ripped off by Shoveit79 and thought it would be appropriate to share what happens to someone when they try and rip people off.

Shoveit79 f-ed me over on a set of holies where I asked for a very fair $50 refund. Said the following:

"wheels have no curb rash."
"they are just dusty from sitting."

Turns out they had plenty of curb rash and had brake dust caked on there from never being washed. Also had some weird yellow substance that stained the finish (still unable to remove).

I took Shoveit79's word that there was no curb rash (since I didn't have the ability to wash the wheels right then and there) and he screwed me over.

The following link is a TREMENDOUSLY long thread..but it's well worth the read!!!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399203

Original FS: Holies thread:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=52763


Subsequent warnings given to other potential buyers:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=56855

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=57032

Here's where he sold a Magellan GPS unit for $200+ and couldn't "afford" to throw me $50 as I requested nicely.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=53048

I've just read through like 46 pages of the pirate4x4.com thread. Absolutely hilarious.....
 
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Wow...long read, but DEFINITELY worth it. That kid got what was coming to him.
 
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Didn't read it but isn't Shoveit79 the guy who was so ignorant about putting HID lights inside his stock OEM Halogen housings and the Person Who Would Randomly Capitalize His Sentences Like This??? I don't know I just thought he was an idiot and I guess he really is. Sorry for your trouble though.
 
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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And also forgot to say thanks to all the other members of NAm who backed me up on those other threads regarding the "never-received" partial refund.

Yeah, I'd love to have a chat with that guy - lies, lies, lies - that's all he's good at doing!
 
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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And notice how Shoveit79 started TWO threads for his 4th Gen iPod, changing his mind about his "firm" price.

From:

Originally Posted by Shoveit79
for sale 4th gen 20 gig ipod. asking 250 for it......sorry price is non neg.
To:

Originally Posted by Shoveit79
for sale 4th gen 20 gig ipod. asking 220 for it.sorry price is non neg.
I guess nobody needs to negotiate the price if HE'S going to change it on ya.
 
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Could someone summarize please the Charlie Wezel case please?
 
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Basically he said "I wanna sell this part for $100 + $15 shipping."

So someone lifts his offer (MochaMike) and sends him $115.

Then the seller goes back and changes the original thread so that it reads "I wanna sell this part for $125 + $15 shipping" and asks for an additional $25. I think that whatever part is (gears of some sort) go for $140 + shipping brand new.

Then it turns out the guy advertized it as NEW......but it was USED......

And lie after lie after lie after lie, the scumbag seller keeps digging himself deeper.

His phone number, his address, his parents, his high school pictures, his work, his ip, his e-mail, his yahoo sn, everything about this guy gets found out through normal means and this thread is now like 2000 posts long or something and all over the world.

He's had a bad reputation on eBay, and has been found to be doing the same thing to other people on other forums....

That's the gist of it and everybody on that forum + their friends + whomever else they can find rip him a new one.

 
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Oh yeah forgot to mention that he cashes the check from the buyer for $115 and then goes back and asks for $25 more.
 
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Alright...I'd like to think that would never happen here, but indeed it was entertaining. Thanks for the link!
 
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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WARNING! Do not read this thread. If you do, you'll be there for half a day. Up to 76 pages now, not counting all the links to other sites. Reads like a soap opera. I want the movie rights.
 
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Wow

i would never do that to someone to start with, but you have to think that the 4x4 forums wouldnt be the best place to **** off a bunch of members. It was very satisfying to see the guy get his comeuppance, i wish this would happen to everyone who has cheated people out of money. Lordoftheflies, good luck with getting your money back!
 
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Thanks Soul Coughing.....I don't think I will. Why should Shoveit79's word be trusted? Pocketed a few hundred clams AFTER screwing me and couldn't throw me $50. I just don't get it.

Merry Christmas everybody!
 
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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OK. I started reading the damn thing and now I can't stop...

I should have listened to Mini-bear.
 
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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it is Christmas time, let's be positive, or i will puke all over market place





 
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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the more i read it the more im laughing!

its true though, be too honest about it, there'd be plenty of people to take advantage of ya..... guess this guy finally learns it the hard way
 
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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Bugger
 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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This guy kills me what a ****.
 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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He can't even get his "formal" apology right.

Apology here:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=412489
 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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I TOLD YOU,



YOU DID NOT LISTEN TO ME





 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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j/k, back to reality, i am so sorry to hear your bad experience. Well, looks like he is not welcome anywhere. I feel for you, LordOfTheFlies... Merry Christmas
 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Claiming they were new when he new they were used is False Advertising or Fraud
 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Claiming wheels had "no curb rash" when they did is fraud as well.
 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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I didn't read it all but I read a lot of that wenzel stuff.

People were really brutal and funny. Including some people with user names that poked at the guy. If he were not one of the biggest scum bags I had ever heard of I would almost feel sorry for him for all the stuff that people were doing/saying.
 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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I think Ebay needs to hire those guys. They get results!!
 
Old Dec 25, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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OK. I started reading the damn thing and now I can't stop...

I should have listened to Mini-bear.
same here. all i can say is wow!
 
 
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