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Old 12-20-2016, 10:13 AM
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Jcw brakes make my car sound cheap

Hello, I have a 2010 WC50 Mini cooper. I bought it used with 20k miles back in 2012. From day one I noticed that every time that I’m backing up the brakes squeak.

Five years later, it’s the same story. I’ve gone to different Mini dealerships and I always get the same answer about it, “The JCW brakes tend to be very noisy, so it's normal.” However, my brakes never make a noise when I’m moving forward, only on reverse.

I changed all my rotors and pads last year, but the noise continues to be the same when backing up. I hate that every time I’m exiting a parking space I hear that cheap, annoying sound.

Is this common to other JCW owners? Anything I can do to reduce the noise? Or Do I need to go aftermarket to solve my issue?
 
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change the pads to some that suck, by that I mean squeak less but dont stop as good

I recommend changing rotors & pads at the same time, and do not go with oem if you dont like how they sound
 
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I get brake squeak when in reverse too. I just accept it as normal nowadays. Maybe if you reverse and brake for long enough the squeak will go away? No idea.
 
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Originally Posted by TheEggO
Hello, I have a 2010 WC50 Mini cooper. I bought it used with 20k miles back in 2012. From day one I noticed that every time that I’m backing up the brakes squeak.

Five years later, it’s the same story. I’ve gone to different Mini dealerships and I always get the same answer about it, “The JCW brakes tend to be very noisy, so it's normal.” However, my brakes never make a noise when I’m moving forward, only on reverse.

I changed all my rotors and pads last year, but the noise continues to be the same when backing up. I hate that every time I’m exiting a parking space I hear that cheap, annoying sound.

Is this common to other JCW owners? Anything I can do to reduce the noise? Or Do I need to go aftermarket to solve my issue?
I had this before in reverse only. It may still happens sometimes when the hand brake is released depending of the weather.

This is nothing to really complain as far as I am concerned.
 
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Old 12-20-2016, 06:31 PM
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Here is a good article about brake squeal and how to stop it.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...a3092/4317748/
 
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Hello, I have a 2010 WC50 Mini cooper. I bought it used with 20k miles back in 2012. From day one I noticed that every time that I’m backing up the brakes squeak.
Back or Front ?
 
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This is fairly normal on a performance pad when they are cold (like when you first back out of the driveway in the morning).
 
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I have driven over 200K miles on JCW brakes ( 1st Gen ) and never a sound....guessing the issue is with the front 4 pot Brembo's ? Those pads just drop into place and held down with a pin. So maybe with those, there's enough room for them to feather the pads on the back edge so when backing up and applying brakes that sharper edge works against the rotor ?
 
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Knock on Internet wood, no JCW brake trouble

I've had minor MINI problems over the years , but absolutely no JCW brake trouble .
Knock on Internet wood.
 
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Old 12-21-2016, 06:17 AM
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I have driven over 200K miles on JCW brakes ( 1st Gen ) and never a sound....guessing the issue is with the front 4 pot Brembo's ? Those pads just drop into place and held down with a pin. So maybe with those, there's enough room for them to feather the pads on the back edge so when backing up and applying brakes that sharper edge works against the rotor ?
Yeah, this is normal on the 4 and 6 piston Brembos when the pads are cold. Never had it on my R53 JCW brakes.
 
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On 2 JCW's 90K on 1. 3 sets of pads 2 sets of rotors, the other with 70K miles 2 sets of pads, This is the 4 pot rotors on both, never a squeak with stock pads, or ENC Redstuff either. I am only using the pad right out of the box with no anti squeak adhesive too. Maybe you need the adhesive. These cars are made from parts that have manufacturing tolerances. It is crazy to think they are all exactly the same That squeak is simply a vibration between the pad and brake piston. Stop the vibration and you stop the squeek.
 
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Mine occasionally squeak only in reverse. No big deal to me. Never going forward. I don't back up too much.
 
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I used to own a SRT grand Cherokee great/fast ute but let me tell you the brakes/brembos on those things squealed like a wild hog.
I know your pain
 
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Yea, the stock JCW Brake pads and the GP2 brake pads tend to squeak a little. Mine did it on both cars. Going to be changing the pads on those once its time.
 
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Just put on Hawk street pads from ECS and stock Mini JCW rotors, front crossed drilled, slotted. No squeak. Squeal. Oink. Nada. Nothing. 5k ago. Would never use EBC ceramic pads.
 
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I put EBC Redstuff pads and Autozone Duralast discs all the way around on my MINI, they are very quiet.
 
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EBC red are ceramic composite. The cold stopping isn't as good as metal composite. Hawk Street are better. Unless you're tracking. Ceramic dust is supposedly easier. But who cares about dust? You have to wipe them down anyway.
 
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I have noticed that the EBC redstuff pads stop the car way better than OEM pads, even cold and they leave less dust than OEM pads.
 
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someone mentioned metal dust, it is hard on paint and it'll rust right on top of the paint if you do a trackday and then it rains right after

it's a pain, but #trackcar so meh
 
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Everything has been quiet for me. About 35,000 miles on stock JCW rotors and pads and so far 16,000 on stock JCW rotors and EBC Redstuff pads. No noise with either configuration; hot and cold, forwards and backwards...
 
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I have 2013 R56 JCW - I have brake noise on reverse but doesn't sound like pad squeal, rather high-pitched metal vibration. Got the same story from the dealers as well that it's 'normal for performance brakes' but never had the sound from all my other cars with performance brakes
Given the sound, I wouldn't expect pad change to remove the sound, seems to be more in the hardware - though this is all in my non-professional opinion
 
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I'll post this link again, you guys with brake squeal need to read it and not keep asking what is making your brakes noisy.

READ IT!

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...a3092/4317748/
 
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Originally Posted by DneprDave
I'll post this link again, you guys with brake squeal need to read it and not keep asking what is making your brakes noisy.

READ IT!

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars...a3092/4317748/
the article is only talking about squeak when not on the brakes, ie pad dragging
 
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It's the same thing!
 
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It's the same thing!
not even close to the same thing
 



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