JCW Big Brake Kit?
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Frankly that's up to you. Yes, it will cost more and they do guarantee their work and they should have all the necessary parts that you may or may not have. One stop shopping so to speak.
I have had good service and no hassle from East Bay Mini and yes I bought my car from them.
Does that make a difference, I don't know.
Having said all that I have had my non-warranty work, camber plates, understrut and 4-wheel alignments done by Bay Bridge Motors, a NAM vendor, in Oakland. And yes, they do stand by their work.
There are other shops in the Bay Area, Edge Motorworks in Dublin, A&E Performance in Campbell, that are also worth looking into.
Hope this helps...
I have had good service and no hassle from East Bay Mini and yes I bought my car from them.
Does that make a difference, I don't know.
Having said all that I have had my non-warranty work, camber plates, understrut and 4-wheel alignments done by Bay Bridge Motors, a NAM vendor, in Oakland. And yes, they do stand by their work.
There are other shops in the Bay Area, Edge Motorworks in Dublin, A&E Performance in Campbell, that are also worth looking into.
Hope this helps...
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JCW Big Brake Kit?
I say that because your wheels, R84, are not on the approved list and it may or may not matter.
If you need the correct wheels I have a set, R98 web spokes, that you can use for the installation.
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You might ask the dealer, the one you decide to use, if they will mount your wheels after installing the JCW brake kit.
I say that because your wheels, R84, are not on the approved list and it may or may not matter.
If you need the correct wheels I have a set, R98 web spokes, that you can use for the installation.
Hope this helps...
I say that because your wheels, R84, are not on the approved list and it may or may not matter.
If you need the correct wheels I have a set, R98 web spokes, that you can use for the installation.
Hope this helps...
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JCW Big Brake Kit?
No, they're 17's, yes they're for sale. They're my extra set with runflat tires that I got from another Mini owner.
As far as 16's go I have a set, 6 R94's with 205/50/16 Dunlop Sport Max tires, that I would be interested in selling.
PM me for details.
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As far as 16's go I have a set, 6 R94's with 205/50/16 Dunlop Sport Max tires, that I would be interested in selling.
PM me for details.
Hope this helps...
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PM-ing you right now. (That sounds weird).
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At the risk of sounding like a sales pitch...I think you're going to find this to be pretty much a lateral move. The only difference between your stock brakes now and this JCW kit is the rotor size and red paint.
While it can be considered an improvement of some 25mm or so diameter it shouldn't be confused with their later multi piston caliper on large rotor set up available on today's car. Not wishing to upset anyone retailing this set up but I'm certain you could find this used as a take off from many members who went on to true big brakes happy to sell you their old parts for much less. What you are looking at here is the now "stock" brakes on the newer car whereas the JCW cars finally got what they should have all along.
Installation wise this is no more complicated than the removal of what you have now and installing in reverse order. The mounting and function of them is the same as you have now. SS hoses would not be necessary but a worthy addition to the install while you were there if you choose.
While it can be considered an improvement of some 25mm or so diameter it shouldn't be confused with their later multi piston caliper on large rotor set up available on today's car. Not wishing to upset anyone retailing this set up but I'm certain you could find this used as a take off from many members who went on to true big brakes happy to sell you their old parts for much less. What you are looking at here is the now "stock" brakes on the newer car whereas the JCW cars finally got what they should have all along.
Installation wise this is no more complicated than the removal of what you have now and installing in reverse order. The mounting and function of them is the same as you have now. SS hoses would not be necessary but a worthy addition to the install while you were there if you choose.
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I'd say far closer than a dressed up, decal shod, single piston, iron caliper on a slightly larger one piece rotor.....snooooore....
At least the current JCW package fits a true four pot caliper. This alone will elevate overall driver feedback and response. Short of supplying two piece rotors and ss hoses this is usually as close to full BBK fit any OE will come. Witness Corvette, SRT8, Jag etc. All following this base design for cost effectiveness I'm sure. Someone will come out with two piece rotors for the JCW parts now (could be me I suppose if asked) but I'd have a hard time justifying the additional $600 or so over what has been paid thus far. Minimal advantages for direct copies really- can't be larger or wider so you're gains are again more lateral there.
At least the current JCW package fits a true four pot caliper. This alone will elevate overall driver feedback and response. Short of supplying two piece rotors and ss hoses this is usually as close to full BBK fit any OE will come. Witness Corvette, SRT8, Jag etc. All following this base design for cost effectiveness I'm sure. Someone will come out with two piece rotors for the JCW parts now (could be me I suppose if asked) but I'd have a hard time justifying the additional $600 or so over what has been paid thus far. Minimal advantages for direct copies really- can't be larger or wider so you're gains are again more lateral there.
I just had the same kit put into my MCS......
Kit/shipping and Installation was $1,100.00. That includes upgraded rear pads, flusing the brake lines and new upgraded brake fluid.
And with dealer installed option - it comes with a two year warranty !
And if you buy the kit from Morristown MINI, you will save another 80 bucks off the price I paid for it...............
Squeeks ? No sqeeks unless I run over mouse...........Why would it ?
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I'd say far closer than a dressed up, decal shod, single piston, iron caliper on a slightly larger one piece rotor.....snooooore....
At least the current JCW package fits a true four pot caliper. This alone will elevate overall driver feedback and response. Short of supplying two piece rotors and ss hoses this is usually as close to full BBK fit any OE will come. Witness Corvette, SRT8, Jag etc. All following this base design for cost effectiveness I'm sure. Someone will come out with two piece rotors for the JCW parts now (could be me I suppose if asked) but I'd have a hard time justifying the additional $600 or so over what has been paid thus far. Minimal advantages for direct copies really- can't be larger or wider so you're gains are again more lateral there.
At least the current JCW package fits a true four pot caliper. This alone will elevate overall driver feedback and response. Short of supplying two piece rotors and ss hoses this is usually as close to full BBK fit any OE will come. Witness Corvette, SRT8, Jag etc. All following this base design for cost effectiveness I'm sure. Someone will come out with two piece rotors for the JCW parts now (could be me I suppose if asked) but I'd have a hard time justifying the additional $600 or so over what has been paid thus far. Minimal advantages for direct copies really- can't be larger or wider so you're gains are again more lateral there.
After my soon to be engine mods, a BBK might be my next mod. Willwoods have been at the top of my list.
More info........BMW Bulletin on the kit
Read this, print it out and take it to your SA when requesting the install....this will aleviate any difficulty with the bill later on....
It is 3.0 hrs for install
and 2.0 hrs for alignment
These are Administrative hours per BMW MINI
It is a dpf file....
jcwsuspensionkit.pdf
It is 3.0 hrs for install
and 2.0 hrs for alignment
These are Administrative hours per BMW MINI
It is a dpf file....
jcwsuspensionkit.pdf
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Read this, print it out and take it to your SA when requesting the install....this will aleviate any difficulty with the bill later on....
It is 3.0 hrs for install
and 2.0 hrs for alignment
These are Administrative hours per BMW MINI
It is a dpf file....
Attachment 42026
It is 3.0 hrs for install
and 2.0 hrs for alignment
These are Administrative hours per BMW MINI
It is a dpf file....
Attachment 42026
I bought my kit last summer from bimmer specialist for 510 shipped, last I checked that was their last kit. I installed it with s/s lines, new rear rotors and matching rear caliper paint. It took me an afternoon by my lonesome and has been trouble free, squeak free and stops nicely. It wasnt a huge diff over stock so if your looking for something incredible go with a true BBK. Since I was due for a complete brake job I tossed in the extra cash for something a bit nicer than stock and it was worth it too me. I also dont track the car enough to justify a real BBK.
If you have any q's post or pm me.
If you have any q's post or pm me.
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JCW BBK
I bought my kit last summer from bimmer specialist for 510 shipped, last I checked that was their last kit. I installed it with s/s lines, new rear rotors and matching rear caliper paint. It took me an afternoon by my lonesome and has been trouble free, squeak free and stops nicely. It wasnt a huge diff over stock so if your looking for something incredible go with a true BBK. Since I was due for a complete brake job I tossed in the extra cash for something a bit nicer than stock and it was worth it too me. I also dont track the car enough to justify a real BBK.
If you have any q's post or pm me.
If you have any q's post or pm me.
It's less of a performance thing than the fact I like the way that they look.
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If you buy the JCW kit for R53, make sure to get some nice rims as well to show your red and shiny calipers 
My R91 Bullet wheels (even with just 5 spokes) block the view!
As for the brake performance, you shouldn't expect the performance of a BBK. They are different animals
My R91 Bullet wheels (even with just 5 spokes) block the view!
As for the brake performance, you shouldn't expect the performance of a BBK. They are different animals
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I like them
About a month ago I installed the JCW brakes on my late build 06" and put powder coated red rear calipers that I bought from the Brake Warehouse in NY on the rears. The job was straight forward and had no issues except it took me a while to finally get all of the air out of the lines. I spoke with the good folks at TX Speed Works, (where I bought the steel lines from) and he stated that power bleeding sometimes didn't get all of the air out of the front calipers because of their size. I used a combination of gravity and pedal pumping to get the air out and they work just fine.
My feelings on them is that the initial pedal feel is about the same as stock, but just a bit farther down in the travel the bite and stopping power is much enhanced.
PM me if you have any questions.
Gene
My feelings on them is that the initial pedal feel is about the same as stock, but just a bit farther down in the travel the bite and stopping power is much enhanced.
PM me if you have any questions.
Gene
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If you buy the JCW kit for R53, make sure to get some nice rims as well to show your red and shiny calipers
My R91 Bullet wheels (even with just 5 spokes) block the view!
As for the brake performance, you shouldn't expect the performance of a BBK. They are different animals
My R91 Bullet wheels (even with just 5 spokes) block the view!
As for the brake performance, you shouldn't expect the performance of a BBK. They are different animals
I'm thinking about buying a set of R98s. They look pretty good with the BBKs. I realize they are more cosmetic than performance-enhancing, but I love the way they look.
But I don't make that much $$, so this is a project that will take a few weeks.
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About a month ago I installed the JCW brakes on my late build 06" and put powder coated red rear calipers that I bought from the Brake Warehouse in NY on the rears. The job was straight forward and had no issues except it took me a while to finally get all of the air out of the lines. I spoke with the good folks at TX Speed Works, (where I bought the steel lines from) and he stated that power bleeding sometimes didn't get all of the air out of the front calipers because of their size. I used a combination of gravity and pedal pumping to get the air out and they work just fine.
My feelings on them is that the initial pedal feel is about the same as stock, but just a bit farther down in the travel the bite and stopping power is much enhanced.
PM me if you have any questions.
Gene
My feelings on them is that the initial pedal feel is about the same as stock, but just a bit farther down in the travel the bite and stopping power is much enhanced.
PM me if you have any questions.
Gene
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Removal of the rear calipers is not any harder than any of the other cars you've worked on. I'd also suggest it's not necessary to remove the caliper for paint work. I've seen it done both ways and honestly; unless you expect folks to poke their head under and around the car doing the visual portion is more than ample. If you do remove it you'll need to be certain you plug the holes and such well for paint- to that end just doing it on-car may be easier.
I got some JCW Brakes for Cheap
Classic at Infineon Raceway all weekend in paddock C. If you are in no hurry and can wait til dealer replaces rotors and pads that might be better too. That way you'll have 3 sets of pads, 1 new stock, 1 stock 1/4 used, and 1 Hawk HPS + 1/4 used, and new rotors. I think I have 4 bottles of ATE Super Blue, to throw in too, for like $450.
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