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R99 05-01-2009 01:35 PM

R56 Challenge Cup Exhaust...
 
Hi Folks. :thumbsup:

I'm over the pond in the UK and I was wondering if anyone over in the US has installed a challenge exhaust on their car yet?

I have the rear muffler on order, I'm just waiting for the kind folks in Germany to release the part.

I ordered it as a spur of the moment thing, but now I am worried about the noise. Its too late to cancel my order, so I will have to wait and see what its like. :cool:

The full system removes the cat and rear silencer, and this clip below shows just how LOUD it really is.



The picture below shows the full system:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/diagrams/o/d/254.png

I have only ordered parts 2 & 5 (the clip). My thinking was that I will still have the cat and rear silencer on my existing system - so perhaps the noise wont be too much? My thoughts were that the removal of the cat and silencer are probably responsible for the majority of the noise - as heard above?

Am I right?

If anyone is interested the part numbers for the system are as follows:

1) Complete exhaust system: 18108308878

2) Rear silencer: 18128308919

Oxybluecoop 05-01-2009 02:58 PM

Yeah removing the cat makes a big difference in sound and combined with a resonator removal it gets throaty.

R99 05-01-2009 03:38 PM

So with me going for JUST the back box (number 2 on the diagram) I should be OK do you think?

I want an increase in sound, but I don't want to sound like an idiot pulling up outside work/home etc. :)

I know the Factory JCW back box gives a nice increase in sound over stock, and its louder than my JCW Stage 1 exhaust too, so I guess what I'm trying to ask is how much louder will the Challenge Cup back box be?

Augie05 05-01-2009 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by R99 (Post 2753147)
So with me going for JUST the back box (number 2 on the diagram) I should be OK do you think?

I want an increase in sound, but I don't want to sound like an idiot pulling up outside work/home etc. :)

I know the Factory JCW back box gives a nice increase in sound over stock, and its louder than my JCW Stage 1 exhaust too, so I guess what I'm trying to ask is how much louder will the Challenge Cup back box be?

If it is designed for a race car then I am sure it will be LOUD. For me, the JCW tuning exhaust is loud enough for street driving!

FON 05-08-2009 05:17 PM

Is the rear silencer the same as the factory JCW?

svandoorn 05-15-2009 07:52 PM

Any updates R99? I'm very interested in this little project.

R99 05-18-2009 04:55 AM

Still waiting for it to arrive here in the UK, fingers crossed I will have it at some point this week, or next! :)

Oxybluecoop 05-18-2009 10:42 AM

http://1fattybombatty.files.wordpres...sxc-776014.jpg

R99 05-18-2009 03:34 PM

^^ HaHa, thanks for that! :thumbsup:

R99 06-03-2009 05:16 PM

Good news! The back box is here!

I will update with pictures and video later on. :)

etalj 06-03-2009 06:11 PM

suscribed

Sketch 06-07-2009 08:20 PM

Awesome!

bonehead04 06-07-2009 09:03 PM

Loud is fine. But all that pop and burble sounds like crap.

etalj 06-08-2009 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by bonehead04 (Post 2789588)
Loud is fine. But all that pop and burble sounds like crap.

:lol: not to most people who buy a factory JCW. Chances are, that's 30% of the reason they bought one...

R99 06-09-2009 10:13 AM

Update for you guys.

After some serious difficulty getting hold of the exhaust, it finally arrived in the UK - it took just short of two months to get BMW to release the part.

I had it fitted, and it was very loud, almost as loud as the challenge race car. The pops and bangs sounded like a firework was going off in the garage! :eek2::cool::thumbsup:

I have however had to sell it on, because I need to pay for a holiday. :no:

I might get another at a later date, now I have found a source to get me challenge parts, or I may go for the Factory JCW backbox with a modified downpipe. :)

svandoorn 06-10-2009 06:58 AM

Please tell me you recorded a video before selling! :eek:

quikjimmy 06-12-2009 08:18 AM

Im interested in your source for the part. A friend of mine has one on order also but told me that the dealers are cracking down on non-challenge cars, ordering challenge parts. He sneaked his through the barn door before it shut, so knowing where you sourced your part from would be great news.
I personally love how loud and aggressive the sound is. Way better in person though.

drewstermalloy 07-03-2009 10:04 PM

A little off topic, but can you actually BUY a challenge series somewhere in the world?

FON 07-04-2009 10:37 AM

Any updates on this?

R99 07-07-2009 08:38 AM

I did not manage to get any video's of the exhaust - but IMHO it was too loud for road use. It also sounded like a tractor at low revs.

I now have the Factory JCW backbox fitted to my JCW Stage 1. It's louder on the Stage 1 JCW than it is on the Factory JCW for some reason - but its not as loud as the challenge box was.

I would not recommend the challenge box to anyone who values their ear drums! Also I very much doubt that it would be road legal should you be subject to a roadside noise test.

FON 07-09-2009 02:17 PM

Thanks for that feedback..

But have you noticed any gains in terms of performance...the challenge setup is nearly a straigth line..

Have you kept the ressonator now?

Sketch 07-23-2009 06:45 PM

Why did you sell it when you could have just given it to me? :razz:

etalj 08-02-2009 05:57 PM

Hey guys, someone on youtube just posted a video of his Factory JCW fitted with a Challenge catback.

Doesn't sound exactly like a challenge car, but it does sound good...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P16Io...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BecqT...eature=related

drivefast 08-06-2009 08:02 PM

Challenge exhaust
 
I like it! Does anyone know the manufacturer of the exhaust? I want one for a Clubman!

R99 08-08-2009 12:39 PM

That sounds about 50% quieter than when I had the same exhaust system fitted to my car. I notice his is a Factory JCW though, so thats probably why.....

As I have said before, the non-Factory JCW stage 1 and stock Cooper S MINI's, for some reason, are much louder when you fit a different exhaust.

Here is my JCW Stage 1 fitted with the Factory JCW back box..... I'd say its louder than his Factory JCW with Challenge exhaust combo..... :confused:





On the second video, I had to slow down, because just as I was going out of shot I passed a Police car hiding in a side road. :eek::mad:


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