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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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A very versatile rotary tool with numerous attachments that can be use for cutting, polishing, sanding, grinding, etc.

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Sorry i didnt mean what is the Dremel, i know what it is i have one, i meant the process of using a dremel to do something to the tach lights. Thats what i would like explained.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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03 w/Nav and an install?

I would like a set of black faces for my tach and speedo. Is there a installer and a set available for a car with Nav?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Nothing for Nav yet (as was posted earlier in this thread.

As far as the note about the dremeling, here's a little background..
If you notice on your tach gauge, if you have a manual transmission, you have 'unlit' hash marks around the "6k" RPM mark. (Despite rumors, it has very little to do with a "MC" or "MCS" model. I have an "MC" and my red-ticks start at 6.5k.)

In the electronics, there are actually 4 'stages' to these lights: 1. 6.75k and up; 2. 6.25k & 6.5k; 3. 6k; 4. 5.5k and 5.75k. A 'stage' means that the controller can light up each of these stages at once - they're on different circuits. To avoid light bleeding and giving you the indication that 6.5k is redlining when it's actually at 6.75k, the facia - a white piece of plastic to which the face mounts on - has dividers built into it.

These dividers are actually really well done, as the 6k hash mark divider is thin enough to let the orange light in through it, but have the red light not leak out onto the face when it's on.

So, like in a set of gauges that I did blue for another NAM'er here, who had the custom Cockpit Specialities set, the unused hash marked looked like cr@p not lit up. Using a dremel, I removed (carefully, of course!!) the light dividers on the facia to allow the gauge lighting to light up the hashes.

Now, modifying your gagues in this way has two potential downsides - First, it's unreversable. You'd have to buy a used tach off of ebay or a junkyard, and replace the facia. Second, if something happens and you need those tick-marks to light up in red, the bright red will leak out onto the rest of your gauge and look rather bad.

However, if you're like me, in that 1. You won't ever be using those hash-marks (there's a rumor you can have them 'turned on', but on my car, an '02, that's impossible save for test mode) and 2. You won't even need to replace the facia, then.. do it. Looks fantastic:

Sorry for the bad focus, but it's zoomed in on a much wider-zoom shot. THe blue ticks around the "6" is to what I'm referring.

Note that this is a very similar issue to the small 'dead' spot at the top center of the speedo - Canadian and UK models have the High-Beam indicator there. We don't, but since we don't have ANYTHING there, they didn't bother changing the facia behind the gauge face. (Cheaper, you know..

And yeah, they're really retro, and one of the main reasons I'm going for these over Cockpit Specialities.

Mike.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gnatster
Ordered a set of white and requested the text be in black to match my aftermarket guages. Aaron was was quite receptive to the idea. I can't wait to get them. With any luck all the gauges and new gague faces will be installed in by the Dragon.
What color would the text be in anyway?
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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I'm still wating to hear if the "grey" is an exact match for the anthracite or not. Never got a definitive answer on that one.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IrishCooper
Sorry i didnt mean what is the Dremel, i know what it is i have one, i meant the process of using a dremel to do something to the tach lights. Thats what i would like explained.
Sorry about that. The Dremel is one of the few tools I own and know how to operate, so someone asking about a tool makes sense to me. It is easy to forget most people aren't as mechanically challenged as I am.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Are all the colors a satin-like finish? There seems to be a very subtle texture on the face.

Charcoal looks like a great finish to compliment the MINI interior. Now I just need to find some money. . . :impatient
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxtrot_Xray
Nothing for Nav yet (as was posted earlier in this thread.

As far as the note about the dremeling, here's a little background..
If you notice on your tach gauge, if you have a manual transmission, you have 'unlit' hash marks around the "6k" RPM mark. (Despite rumors, it has very little to do with a "MC" or "MCS" model. I have an "MC" and my red-ticks start at 6.5k.)

In the electronics, there are actually 4 'stages' to these lights: 1. 6.75k and up; 2. 6.25k & 6.5k; 3. 6k; 4. 5.5k and 5.75k. A 'stage' means that the controller can light up each of these stages at once - they're on different circuits. To avoid light bleeding and giving you the indication that 6.5k is redlining when it's actually at 6.75k, the facia - a white piece of plastic to which the face mounts on - has dividers built into it.

These dividers are actually really well done, as the 6k hash mark divider is thin enough to let the orange light in through it, but have the red light not leak out onto the face when it's on.

So, like in a set of gauges that I did blue for another NAM'er here, who had the custom Cockpit Specialities set, the unused hash marked looked like cr@p not lit up. Using a dremel, I removed (carefully, of course!!) the light dividers on the facia to allow the gauge lighting to light up the hashes.

Now, modifying your gagues in this way has two potential downsides - First, it's unreversable. You'd have to buy a used tach off of ebay or a junkyard, and replace the facia. Second, if something happens and you need those tick-marks to light up in red, the bright red will leak out onto the rest of your gauge and look rather bad.

However, if you're like me, in that 1. You won't ever be using those hash-marks (there's a rumor you can have them 'turned on', but on my car, an '02, that's impossible save for test mode) and 2. You won't even need to replace the facia, then.. do it. Looks fantastic:

Sorry for the bad focus, but it's zoomed in on a much wider-zoom shot. THe blue ticks around the "6" is to what I'm referring.

Note that this is a very similar issue to the small 'dead' spot at the top center of the speedo - Canadian and UK models have the High-Beam indicator there. We don't, but since we don't have ANYTHING there, they didn't bother changing the facia behind the gauge face. (Cheaper, you know..

And yeah, they're really retro, and one of the main reasons I'm going for these over Cockpit Specialities.

Mike.
So the whole point of using the dremel to remove the light dividers is to illuminate the unused hash marks when the dash lights are on. And your saying they put those dividers there so the redline could be lit and not disturb the dash lighting. And since those extra lights are unused (would be for a higher red line) theres a possiblity the lights could bleed over, instead of have a crisp cut off. I dont see this being a problem cause who is going to need to use those as part of the red line.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Turcicus
What color would the text be in anyway?
I'm not 100% certain, but when I asked if the text is black on the white faces I was told that could be done. I have to figure that means that the text is normally not black.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by scooterboy
I'm still wating to hear if the "grey" is an exact match for the anthracite or not. Never got a definitive answer on that one.
No - it's darker and its not metallic. At least, the one *I* have isn't. That said, I think they'd look great aauinst anthtacite - being a bit darker, I think they'd contrast just a bit and would definitrly look better then the OEM silver. Just my opinion...

If you're panning on going to the Dragon you can see the gauges in my car - I have no plans to de-install them.
 
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