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chikmagnet 10-06-2005 12:18 AM

Painting Headlight Housing (aka Joey Mod)
 
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I have a buddy who has 2002 wrx and we painted the inside of his housings and it looked awesome just wondering if anyone else has done this but to a mini

Rally@StanceDesign 10-06-2005 06:20 AM

yes....But how to do it has been a mystery. A lot of people know of the tactic of heating an oven up to 200 degrees and putting the headlight in for like 15 minutes (thats what most subaru owners do i believe), but a long long time ago one of the original members here reported having problems with using the oven technique. Something about clips still retaining the glass, not just the sealant. But obviously it is possible as seen below. The pictures come from a japanese tuner company who has done this mod a lot of times, and has even gone as far as adding angel eyes (like the BMWs have). So they obviously know how to do it, but weren't responding to my emails.



http://www.hosokawa.co.jp/bond-mini/...ages/162_9.jpg

http://www.hosokawa.co.jp/bond-garag...ini_fsp_01.jpg

http://www.hosokawa.co.jp/bond-mini/.../coopers07.jpg http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/bondga...f/7fcc0041.JPG

doomsdaybob 10-06-2005 06:45 AM

I'm hoping to get my painted tails back together and installed soon. Pics to follow. I love the look of painting the headlights! Hella offers replacement units overseas for many BMW and VW products that are painted matte so the lights look blacked out when they are turned off. I'd love to try this w/ my headlights but the wife would kill me if she caught me disassembling them and then I broke something. I personally won't be trying this until replacements come down in price or start selling lower on ebay. If someone else try's let us see how it turns out.:thumbsup:

doomsdaybob 10-06-2005 06:47 AM

One more note, Clearcorners.com offers this service for several cars including the G35's but not the MINI yet. Not enough interest and no volunteers to be first available according to customer support. At $800 a set for LED tails it might be awhile before they get around to more MINI parts. :cry:

MSFITOY 10-06-2005 06:56 AM

I've been obsessing about painting mine satin black so I look forward anymore DIY info on this subject:smile:

tradiuz 10-06-2005 06:59 AM

You know. I have a spare headlight from an 05 MC, non Xenon, Driver side. If anyone wants to tinker with the custom coloring idea. (Its listed in the marketplace).

Rally@StanceDesign 10-06-2005 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I've been obsessing about painting mine satin black so I look forward anymore DIY info on this subject:smile:

I'm gonna finally just do it. I like the new 05 headlights better anyways...so i will try it with my old ones. I just need to get the guts up enough to do it :lol: :smile:

MSFITOY 10-06-2005 08:09 AM

You have a pair of older style? Are they Xenon? If so, let me try it:smile: My thoughts was rather than subjecting the lamps to the oven, use an Xacto blade the cut the sealant then remove the residue afterwards and reseal with RTV after painting.

Originally Posted by RallyMINI
I'm gonna finally just do it. I like the new 05 headlights better anyways...so i will try it with my old ones. I just need to get the guts up enough to do it :lol: :smile:


agranger 10-06-2005 08:23 AM

Looks GREAT on the orange car... Pepper white - not so much.

Rally@StanceDesign 10-06-2005 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by MSFITOY
You have a pair of older style? Are they Xenon? If so, let me try it:smile: My thoughts was rather than subjecting the lamps to the oven, use an Xacto blade the cut the sealant then remove the residue afterwards and reseal with RTV after painting.

That was my thought too. I dont have an extra set of headlights....but im thinking about buying new 05 ones and then trying them on the older style that came with my car.

I want to do satin black too i think. Although i always thought that adding a black tint to the chrome (in order to achieve a black chrome look) would look cool on some cars. There is always that carbon fiber overlay that i showed you in those headlights :wink:

On the subie boards they have a great reccomendation for the sealant. They say you can get it at home depot and Ace hardware, and apparently its the same stuff subaru uses on their OEM headlights. I dont think that removing the sealant is the problem. The problem might just be the intricate clamps and attachments that MINI uses. They tend to require you to pull in different directions and confusing things like that :lol: We shall have to see :razz:

Rally@StanceDesign 10-06-2005 09:32 AM

if you cant tell this topic has been of interest to me for quite a while. Here are the two subaru threads i was talking about

One is just about getting the thing open with some nice pics. They are just removing reflectors and not painting.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384488

And here is their painting thread....the pics are towards the bottom.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749614

And the famous "joey mod" from the dub community. this one is of interest because they suggest a heat gun, which is much less scary than throwing them in a heated oven. Pictures arent anything special unforunately.
http://www.vwenthusiast.com/?pg=joey_mod

chikmagnet 10-06-2005 09:57 AM

one big concern of mine is the fact that my lights are xenon and that the fact of the auto leveling system is really scary

chikmagnet 10-06-2005 09:58 AM

we did just throw my friends in the oven and they seperated like butter (wrx)

kaelaria 10-06-2005 10:03 AM

The orange looks siiiick and it would on my hyper blue too!!

MandaBoo 10-06-2005 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by RallyMINI
And the famous "joey mod" from the dub community. this one is of interest because they suggest a heat gun, which is much less scary than throwing them in a heated oven. Pictures arent anything special unforunately.
http://www.vwenthusiast.com/?pg=joey_mod

Actually, I would MUCH more afraid of using a heat gun as the temperature of it could easily get well over the suggested 200F in the oven method. Plus, you could strain the plastic by heating it unevenly with the gun. If you think about it, 200F isn't really that hot and except for the sealant they use which is what you are trying to melt, nothing in the assembly should have any problems with that kind of temperature. I watched the hubby and his friends do this to WRX's, EVO's and an M Roadster (they were putting angel eyes on it) and as anxious as I was about the first one they did, they didn't have any problems with it and their headlights and tail lights look great! :thumbsup:

bumble's angel 10-06-2005 10:29 AM

I did this to my Kia Sorento. It took longer to scrap the old sealent off than anything else. It was pretty simple, I only heated the oven to 170 degrees F. I had though about doing it to the MINI but I bought a practice Light for the Sorento for $35 shipped. I doubt I could get one for the MINI that cheap.

Shazam's white lightning 10-06-2005 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by agranger
Looks GREAT on the orange car... Pepper white - not so much.

in agreement :sad:

schooner2 10-06-2005 02:17 PM

I really like the look of this, I think it would look sweet with my electric blue-- if someone figures it out let me know!!

bumble's angel 10-06-2005 02:33 PM

If anyone has a cheap or free Light I will try, I shouldnt be hard. Just need the right paint to match the paint of the car.

mp5999 10-06-2005 03:02 PM

please give a website or link to this japanese tuner that did the orange lights. I am dying to see more pics of this car.

thanks!!

Rally@StanceDesign 10-06-2005 03:14 PM

http://www.hosokawa.co.jp/bond-mini/

Rally@StanceDesign 10-06-2005 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Bumble78
If anyone has a cheap or free Light I will try, I shouldnt be hard. Just need the right paint to match the paint of the car.

hehe its the free light thats hard to get :wink: . I have been trying to find a cheap version for a while now, and then i will do it :smile:

chikmagnet 10-06-2005 03:39 PM

i was just looking at the pic of the dissasembled headlight and it looks very similiar to my 05 xenons as far as how they are put together any insight in to this. I know thats what this thread is all about but any insight will be helpful as i will probably try to do this next week

tradiuz 10-06-2005 03:47 PM

I would call $75 + actually Shipping cheap compared to the $180 new price...:razz:

Rally@StanceDesign 10-06-2005 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by tradiuz
I would call $75 + actually Shipping cheap compared to the $180 new price...:razz:

PM sent :thumbsup:


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