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Lex2008 09-07-2015 06:00 PM

How to replace front sunshade / sunscreen R56 Cooper S
 
Alright ladies, I finally got around to R&Ring the flapping front sunshade on my 2008 R56 Cooper S with two sunroofs. I tried to glue the end of the shade where it delaminated from the gold metal ribbon with Loctite fabric glue, but it didnt hold. So I bought a new shade from ECS Tuning for $140. The tuning shop that does no tuning. They do however have good customer service and very competitive prices, I've found.

Its bloody easy to swap.

You need:

- Torx T25 bit, extension and 1/4 drive ratchet or just a T25 "screwdriver"
- Loctite BLUE
- Inch pounds torque wrench (optional).
- 6 *new* T25 Torx screws from Mini (optional). Manual calls for NEW screws. I reused mine and used Loctite.

Sorry for blurry pics.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...6a25d1e9cb.jpg

You must take off both glass panels to install front sunshade because part of the screen is under the rear glass panel.

Its 3 T25 torx screws on each side of each panel.

Make sure glass roofs are closed so the screws are exposed.

No trim needs to be removed. Just unscrew 6 torx screws and pick up glass panels. Its that easy.

See the blurry screws?:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...63f8040b8e.jpg


Then stick a medium size flat head screwdriver and pull towards you and push the tab up with other screwdriver in to free it. Or try one screwdriver in each tab. Takes a little jiggering to get the tabs loose. Dont be afraid to break the tabs since you plan to replace the shade anyway but you shouldn't need to break them to get it off. Note that I took this picture before removing the rear glass panel. You need to remove it to be able to pull out the front shade.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...899c04cfcb.jpg

See the tabs?:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...171922948b.jpg


Once you have both sides free you just lift it away.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...c8ba47722a.jpg


Insert the new shade starting with the plastic nub, I prefer to call it a plastic peepee. Line it up and press into the corresponding hole. Then push the tabs into place. Takes a little force and moving back and forth.

See the peepee? See the hole?:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...1e2548d660.jpg


Here is the new shade installed:See how the rear and front sun shades sit back to back?

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...23619e61ca.jpg


Then make sure the gold colored metal ribbon is flush and can slide smoothly into the abutting plastic guide.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.nor...997d02c934.jpg


Now reinstall glass, put some Locktite Blue (semi permanent) on screw threads and only partially tighten the screws. Take a credit card and run it along the perimeter of the glass from outside the car to make sure you have an equidistant gap around the entire glass panel. Repeat for both glass panels.

NOW tighten to 4 NM or hand tight/firm. Dont go nuts. It requires only 4 NM...

ECSTuning 09-08-2015 01:59 PM

Great write up, has to be a sticky thread for sure.


Sunroof Roller Blind - Front Part # 54102757016 Aftermarket we have listed also.


https://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Sit...h/54102757016/

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Systemlord 09-09-2015 03:54 PM

Did your old shade ever slide open on it's own when closed under hard acceleration or both windows down? Does the new sun shade have a bit more firm slide when opening and closing it? BTW, nice DIY guide!

Thanks,
Systemlord.

Lex2008 09-09-2015 04:00 PM

Nope, mine never opened on its own. It separated from the metal ribbon on the edge.

But yes the new shade requires much more force to operate. Why exactly, I'm not sure. Sorry bro.

Systemlord 09-09-2015 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Lex2008 (Post 4122289)
Nope, mine never opened on its own. It separated from the metal ribbon on the edge.

But yes the new shade requires much more force to operate. Why exactly, I'm not sure. Sorry bro.

The only operation of the shade is slide open, slide close, if that requires more force than its tight when sliding in the rails. That tells me mine are worn since they open to easily.

Lex2008 09-10-2015 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Systemlord (Post 4122365)
The only operation of the shade is slide open, slide close, if that requires more force than its tight when sliding in the rails. That tells me mine are worn since they open to easily.

Yes sir. I would come to the same conclusion. There must be a spring assembly inside the shade's roller which creates tension.

When I have a moment I will look at the old shade and dissect it and get back with you.

Systemlord 09-11-2015 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Lex2008 (Post 4122502)
Yes sir. I would come to the same conclusion. There must be a spring assembly inside the shade's roller which creates tension.

When I have a moment I will look at the old shade and dissect it and get back with you.

I would greatly appreciate it! :thumbsup:

spawnywhippet 08-17-2016 05:35 PM

Nice easy instructions, took me about 45 mins from start to finish. Thanks!

ECSTuning 08-19-2016 05:22 AM

Congrats on the fix.

Sigboi 09-17-2016 11:49 AM

Is there any difference in procedure for doing this on an R53 Mini?

Thanks!

Shotgun_banjo 05-22-2017 08:57 PM

I want to add something on this thread and it is about repairing the screen rather than replacing it. The fabric on my shade is fully detached from the metal guide and I was itching away in ordering a new shade on ECS and doing the replacement procedure as per the OP's instruction but the McGyver in me said "hold-on, try fixing it first and if it fails then get a new one" so I went to my library of glues and looked at what glue is good that can flex and will hold-up with outdoor weather and easy enough to apply in controlled small amount. The answer is Gorilla Super Glue.

So here is what I use:

1. Pair of surgical gloves (latex)
2. 2 small BBQ sticks (unused)
3. Gorilla Super Glue (non-gel type - blue container, impact resistant)
4. 2 piece of credit cards or similar

Here is how I did it:

1. The fabric is just glued on the flexible metal rail (metallic color). I would first pull the sun shade all the way to the open position. You do not need to remove the glass for this fix.

2. Lift-up the fabric and expose the underside of the fabric. You need to see the brownish side.

3. Starting from the pull side of the shade get one BBQ stick and put a dab of gorilla glue on the tip and apply small amount of the glue on the brown side. Do not put too much glue! THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Do it one inch at a time and take your time and do not rush it. The last thing you need is to put glue on the black guide rail itself and you will have a permanent shade in place.

4. Now when you have an inch of fabric with glue use another clean BBQ stick to maneuver the fabric back into the guide. Then use the stick to stretch the fabric. It should not be hard to put back the fabric and stretch it at the same time. The glue will set in within 10 seconds so you need to be quick on this next step.

5. Grab one of the credit card and insert it between the fabric and guide rail. When you insert the credit card make sure to drag it on the fabric so that it will pull-in the fabric towards the inside of the guide and this will press the fabric to the metal guide.

6. Count 5 seconds then you need to move the fabric shade with the credit card still in place (hold the card a little when you move the fabric and make sure the card also moves with the fabric). Move it back and forth 8-10 times so that the glue on the rail will set in and any glue that you accidentally placed on the guide rail will dry up and will not stick to the fabric.

7. Leave the first credit card in place then do #2 to #6 again. Upon placing the second credit card remove the first one and move the shade as per item #6.

8. The end part will be the tricky part but still doable. Just take your time and it will be glued-in and do not forget to move the shade.

Do it properly and you will have fixed your shade and it will only cost you $5. Do it like a red neck and you will have a permanent shade and you will be kicking your own nuts. When you manage to glue everything in and you are sure that it is moving freely leave it in the close position for 1 hour and bake it under the sun to make sure the glue will dry up properly and it will not delaminate. It took me 30 minutes per side to do the re-glue.

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Lex2008 05-23-2017 08:45 AM

I tried Loctite fabric glue which is of course flexible and didn't hold.

Keep us posted.

Shotgun_banjo 05-23-2017 10:32 AM

The Gorilla Super Glue should hold. I have it for a couple of days already and my windows and sun roof are all open and the wind hitting it and flapping the fabric does not seems to make it to delaminate. I Also tried opening and closing the fabric really fast like I want to break it and the glue did not fail. I have used The Gorilla Super Glue on exterior applications outside of my house and is exposed to direct sun and rain and for 3 years it has not failed yet. I can't imagine it failing on the sunroof if it has held my exposed outdoor security camera up for 3 years already. Try it as a last resort before replacing the entire fabric. I sound like I am now selling Gorilla Glue but this stuff really works.

Lex2008 05-23-2017 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Shotgun_banjo (Post 4303307)
The Gorilla Super Glue should hold. I have it for a couple of days already and my windows and sun roof are all open and the wind hitting it and flapping the fabric does not seems to make it to delaminate. I Also tried opening and closing the fabric really fast like I want to break it and the glue did not fail. I have used The Gorilla Super Glue on exterior applications outside of my house and is exposed to direct sun and rain and for 3 years it has not failed yet. I can't imagine it failing on the sunroof if it has held my exposed outdoor security camera up for 3 years already. Try it as a last resort before replacing the entire fabric. I sound like I am now selling Gorilla Glue but this stuff really works.

I dont like Gorilla products. I think they are pure hype/marketing. BUT keep us posted.

Does this glue bubble up like the regular Gorilla glue? I presume not or it couldnt roll up.

Shotgun_banjo 05-23-2017 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Lex2008 (Post 4303309)
I dont like Gorilla products. I think they are pure hype/marketing. BUT keep us posted.

Does this glue bubble up like the regular Gorilla glue? I presume not or it couldnt roll up.

Nope. I think the one that bubbles up is the regular Gorilla Glue. The "super" version has a lot of give and that is the reason why I used it versus other products. This glue also does not whiten up like other super glues when exposed to air and it dries clear.

I will post again after a week to see if it is holding up.

hands5 02-28-2018 02:06 PM

RE; 2006 Mini Cooper Base.

The sunscreen will not attach to anything that will keep it in the open position.

What is it missing? Clip/magnet or?

It functions fine...just can't get it to stay in the open position.


Thanks.

Lex2008 02-28-2018 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by hands5 (Post 4371342)
RE; 2006 Mini Cooper Base.

The sunscreen will not attach to anything that will keep it in the open position.

What is it missing? Clip/magnet or?

It functions fine...just can't get it to stay in the open position.


Thanks.

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I don't think the 2006 is the same body style is it? It's an R55 no?

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mom7x 05-28-2018 04:23 PM

Thanks for this!
 
Well-don't know if I'll get around to it anytime soon, especially since the part is now $100 more. $140-yes. $230-maybe. May try to repair, but will have to wait until it gets cooler. Too hot here to take the time.
Can you just take it out without replacing it? Thinking of an after market screen as an alternative.
Thanks again!

Lex2008 05-29-2018 06:31 AM

I did this job a long time ago but if my memory serves me correctly,, yes you can remove it completely and still have a functioning sunroof.

It's very very easy.

Myfast 12-18-2018 06:29 PM

Guys, when putting back your new or repaired shade, remember to put some soft tape between the roof and the Shade support, as this is one of the biggest contributors for rattles in a R56.

Lex2008 12-18-2018 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Myfast (Post 4438464)
Guys, when putting back your new or repaired shade, remember to put some soft tape between the roof and the Shade support, as this is one of the biggest contributors for rattles in a R56.

Can you provide a picture?

roger clubman 05-02-2019 03:57 PM

hello Lex2008 could you help me with this concern
 
hello how are you, excuse a question I was reading your publication that you made a few years ago and the truth interests me since I just bought a mini cooper clubman 08 and is with the problem of blinds of sun roof. My question is the following when I remove the sun roof and put it back again it has to be centered or it only has to be at the level of the holes of the screws I mean the two sun roofs because you have to remove them or you would give me that technique You used because my fear is that it is uneven, leaking water, or one side more open than the other. Thank
you for your time and I await your response soon

please if you could send me the name or photo of Loctite Blue you used since there are many variations in the market and they come by number thank you very much I thank you

roger clubman 05-02-2019 04:08 PM

hello how are you, excuse a question I was reading your publication that you made a few years ago and the truth interests me since I just bought a mini cooper clubman 08 and is with the problem of blinds of sun roof. My question is the following when I remove the sun roof and put it back again it has to be centered or it only has to be at the level of the holes of the screws I mean the two sun roofs because you have to remove them or you would give me that technique You used because my fear is that it is uneven, leaking water, or one side more open than the other. Thank
you for your time and I await your response soon

please if you could send me the name or photo of Loctite Blue you used since there are many variations in the market and they come by number thank you very much I thank you

roger clubman 05-02-2019 04:09 PM

Lex2008 I need you help
 
hello how are you, excuse a question I was reading your publication that you made a few years ago and the truth interests me since I just bought a mini cooper clubman 08 and is with the problem of blinds of sun roof. My question is the following when I remove the sun roof and put it back again it has to be centered or it only has to be at the level of the holes of the screws I mean the two sun roofs because you have to remove them or you would give me that technique You used because my fear is that it is uneven, leaking water, or one side more open than the other. Thank
you for your time and I await your response soon

please if you could send me the name or photo of Loctite Blue you used since there are many variations in the market and they come by number thank you very much I thank you

Lex2008 05-04-2019 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by roger clubman (Post 4467196)
hello how are you, excuse a question I was reading your publication that you made a few years ago and the truth interests me since I just bought a mini cooper clubman 08 and is with the problem of blinds of sun roof. My question is the following when I remove the sun roof and put it back again it has to be centered or it only has to be at the level of the holes of the screws I mean the two sun roofs because you have to remove them or you would give me that technique You used because my fear is that it is uneven, leaking water, or one side more open than the other. Thank
you for your time and I await your response soon

please if you could send me the name or photo of Loctite Blue you used since there are many variations in the market and they come by number thank you very much I thank you

Any medium strength thread locker will work. Go to Home Depot or any auto parts store and buy a medium thread locker. Liquid, gel, paste. Doesnt matter.

Im sorry but I did this years ago but I dont recall having any concerns with centering.

Is the 2008 Clubman an R56 body? or the prior body?


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