How To R50 Drivetrain :: Getrag 6-Speed Swap - Full How-To

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PDF needed

Does any one still have the pdf? please share
 
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Does any one still have the pdf? please share
I also need the guide if anyone has it. My midlands tranny just failed and I have a 6-speed from an R53 JCW on its way.
 
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Originally Posted by Thought of a good one
Thanks for the link.

It looks like it is broken
 
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Originally Posted by Mr.John
Hey folks,
I know this topic is old, but anyways...

Which stock airbox are you running after the Getrag6 conversion?
I've got a R50 Late 2005 (FL). My stock airbox doesn't fit any more due to the new gearbox mount.
Oh we just use the DDM R50 intake as it fits, and makes more power with a cool sound.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/way-dd...ntake-r50.html
 
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Hey! I'm in the club too, we should start up the BKL- equipped R50 on Saturday! Thanks to everybody who posted about this, especially the guys from Texas who made that sweet pdf, it would not have been possible to do it without your help.

Any last- minute hints???
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take pictures of how things were before, should make things easier to put back together. Allow extra time and don't be like me when I do stuff, I get all excited and hurry which makes me miss things and it ends up taking longer than it would if I just slowed down and took my time. This is a big project even if you are skilled, have all the tools and parts ahead of time. I would like to do this one day when my rebuilt one dies... should have had done the swap 3 years ago...
 
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Hey guys! Swap completed, For Future Reference:

-Get a BKL box, is the one with the oem-fitted LSD, it is absolutely bonkers. It is by far the best bang-for-buck upgrade to a R50, it rips thru corners, the car is transformed, it changes how you drive, it becomes faster and safer.

-Look for parts in the UK, they have a culture for cars&motorsport like no one, when I called the guy there he was "oh I see, you are looking for an R50 box conversion kit, ya I have them ready".
So really easy to source parts there from brand-specific massive scrapyards, they`ll ship you also all the bolts you may need.
Also their spare part prices are insanely good compared to continental Europe, like 70% lower. IDK about the USA.

-Get also the gearlever and bowden cables from the donor car & remember to lube them very well. Saves a lot of time, just fit as-is.

-Get the flywheel and clutch kit from Valeo, the single-mass one. It goes with the year and model of donor car, not receiver one. With a bit of ebay-searching you`ll get a great great price on it (again, I love you UK)

-Have a vacuum thing for clutch line purging if you want to do the thing with everything already in place, otherwise the siphon in the circuit makes it a rather annoying operation. Most shop nowadays have one, worth using it.

-Don`t really worry for small bits, you may end up wasting a lot of money on little un-needed parts (if the place where you get the box from is good a lot of little bits/piping/clips/etc will be included anyway) and still being stuck for another small one you didn`t think of in advance. Just plan to keep the car in the shop for 8-10gg so when/if little bits are needed you wait for them to arrive the next day.


Can`t think of anything else right now, hope the above help.

10/10 would do again.
 
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Again FFR: attached to this message is your main guide for the swap, the great .pdf file "Fixing the weak link" by Texas Speedwerks
 
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Congratulations with your successful conversion. I echo your positive experience working with the Brits. They are really a nice bunch. Always very responsive and professional. I contacted two outfits there for an LSD. Both responded promptly and I felt bad for the second one just being a day later, because they were referred by Quarfe. The one I went with had the LSD to me by the third business day - this is from UK to West coast USA.

On your point about buying used assemblies. What trouble me here in USA is ashhole sellers strip off the small parts and sell you just the bare minimum instead of everything that you need. They then get to sell you many other pieces a la carte. R56 cast aluminum rear arm for R53 conversion is one excellent example.
 
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Originally Posted by txwerks
Many of you may have read our trials on swapping in the Getrag 6-speed, and some may have read the pared down article in NAM Alliance... The full tech article was a mere 30ish pages (which, naturally, would have taken up a lot of space... hah!).

Anyway, we've sent out lots of electronic copies - so, rather than have to send it out, we've put it online for all to enjoy and contemplate.

It's the full story, with a parts list, tips and tricks, suggestions, etc.

Enjoy! (someone might wanna make this a sticky?)

Slow connections beware, this is a 3MB file!

http://www.txwerks.com/images/Instal..._Weak_Link.pdf
Hi everyone. Does anyone still have a copy of the install installation artical? I am considering doing the conversion. Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by S6616

Hi everyone. Does anyone still have a copy of the install installation artical? I am considering doing the conversion. Thanks
it is the pdf attached to the post 2 places above yours
 
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Originally Posted by Caterpillaraoz
it is the pdf attached to the post 2 places above yours
thank you so much.
 
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Originally Posted by chrisfrom619
Hi everyone,

I have a 2004 mini cooper I'm not planning on racing my mini but sometimes I have a heavy right foot. Right now I have a shattered tranny due to running over a large pot hole now I'm leaning toward the 6 speed conversion due to its durability my question is do I need to buy a aftermarket clutch and flywheel to do this swap or I can pretty much use whatever parts that will come out of cooper S. I have about 4k in funds is that sufficient enough to do the swap? I live about 2 minutes from the junkyard here in San Diego CA. Thanks in advance.
The r53 6 speed trans bolts right on. You need Cooper s axles and the shifter cables off the Cooper s as well. Everything else will be the same. No modifications at all. The shifter cables might take you a bit to position but nothing major.
 
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Any clutch and flywheel for an S will do (I used Valeo
but oem or aftermarket also work).
Starter, trans mount bracket, and a few more misc bits and pieces
from an S are also needed.
 
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Starter motor?

I too am in the process of gathering parts to swap out a CVT to the 6 speed Getrag.my question is does the MCS starter motor have to come from a 6 speed manual car or can a MCS automatic one fit as well?
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Originally Posted by Daryle Hughes
I too am in the process of gathering parts to swap out a CVT to the 6 speed Getrag.my question is does the MCS starter motor have to come from a 6 speed manual car or can a MCS automatic one fit as well?
Cheers
For R50 manual also the starter motor has to be swapped.
Go to www.realoem.com and look for the code of the starter motor in the two different version and you'll find out:-)
 
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I am doing my research for this conversion to my 2005 R50 with the original Getrag 5 speed. I was wondering if the starter motors are the same? Rockauto lists them as both having the same part number, so I am assuming they will interchange, but would like to be sure.
 
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They are different. I placed them side by side when I did the swap in my 06 r52. I forget which, but one has a larger gear inside.

 
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hi I have a 2001 mini one and just ordered all the stuff I need for the conversion it’s all come out of a 2008 mini the holes on my engine don’t line up with the gearbox have I ordered wrong parts or is there a conversion plate I should of bought thanks for any help
 
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Originally Posted by Connor Cars
hi I have a 2001 mini one and just ordered all the stuff I need for the conversion it’s all come out of a 2008 mini the holes on my engine don’t line up with the gearbox have I ordered wrong parts or is there a conversion plate I should of bought thanks for any help
Wrong gearbox, you want a 6-speed from a R53 Cooper S, 2002-2006! It's a bolt-on conversion, no need for plates etc
 
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Originally Posted by Blue R50
I am doing my research for this conversion to my 2005 R50 with the original Getrag 5 speed. I was wondering if the starter motors are the same? Rockauto lists them as both having the same part number, so I am assuming they will interchange, but would like to be sure.
NO they are NOT the same. You need a starter from a Manual R53, take it from the donor with the trans.

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hi I have a 2001 mini one and just ordered all the stuff I need for the conversion it’s all come out of a 2008 mini the holes on my engine don’t line up with the gearbox have I ordered wrong parts or is there a conversion plate I should of bought thanks for any help
Like it was said you got the wrong parts as it needs to come from an R53 chassis, if the bolt holes don't line up you likely have an R56 trans
 
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Hi all,
I made a swap for Getrag 5 to Getrag 6 on my Mini One from 2006 (MIni One "Seven Edition"). Issues that I have:
1) Slave cylinder from a donor car was broken. I replace it, but did not managed to bleed hydraulic line fully. For now I install salve cylinder in "alternative" way and can drive a car (see pic)
2) Revers gear sensor is different on my R50 and on donor R53, the cable too short as well.
3) Air filter box doesn't fit to gearbox mount, hope to solve this issue with the heated by reforming filter box shape.

Slave bleeding. How much liquid should go out ?

R50 - left, R53 -right

R53 -left, R50 -right

R53 -left, R50 -right

R53 -left, R50 -right

 
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i was given a beautful blue 04 mini with a blown midland 5speed and was reading your forum about a 6speed swap is it easy and i see its just a shift linkage is need . iv noticed tons of model s are available at the local pick and pulls will it bolt up useing the old flywheel and clutch im asking because it looks like i can get a trans for a few bucks but a used midland is around 1500 and im on a budget
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