How To R50 Drivetrain :: Getrag 6-Speed Swap - Full How-To
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take pictures of how things were before, should make things easier to put back together. Allow extra time and don't be like me when I do stuff, I get all excited and hurry which makes me miss things and it ends up taking longer than it would if I just slowed down and took my time. This is a big project even if you are skilled, have all the tools and parts ahead of time. I would like to do this one day when my rebuilt one dies... should have had done the swap 3 years ago...
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Experience, FFR
Hey guys! Swap completed, For Future Reference:
-Get a BKL box, is the one with the oem-fitted LSD, it is absolutely bonkers. It is by far the best bang-for-buck upgrade to a R50, it rips thru corners, the car is transformed, it changes how you drive, it becomes faster and safer.
-Look for parts in the UK, they have a culture for cars&motorsport like no one, when I called the guy there he was "oh I see, you are looking for an R50 box conversion kit, ya I have them ready".
So really easy to source parts there from brand-specific massive scrapyards, they`ll ship you also all the bolts you may need.
Also their spare part prices are insanely good compared to continental Europe, like 70% lower. IDK about the USA.
-Get also the gearlever and bowden cables from the donor car & remember to lube them very well. Saves a lot of time, just fit as-is.
-Get the flywheel and clutch kit from Valeo, the single-mass one. It goes with the year and model of donor car, not receiver one. With a bit of ebay-searching you`ll get a great great price on it (again, I love you UK)
-Have a vacuum thing for clutch line purging if you want to do the thing with everything already in place, otherwise the siphon in the circuit makes it a rather annoying operation. Most shop nowadays have one, worth using it.
-Don`t really worry for small bits, you may end up wasting a lot of money on little un-needed parts (if the place where you get the box from is good a lot of little bits/piping/clips/etc will be included anyway) and still being stuck for another small one you didn`t think of in advance. Just plan to keep the car in the shop for 8-10gg so when/if little bits are needed you wait for them to arrive the next day.
Can`t think of anything else right now, hope the above help.
10/10 would do again.
-Get a BKL box, is the one with the oem-fitted LSD, it is absolutely bonkers. It is by far the best bang-for-buck upgrade to a R50, it rips thru corners, the car is transformed, it changes how you drive, it becomes faster and safer.
-Look for parts in the UK, they have a culture for cars&motorsport like no one, when I called the guy there he was "oh I see, you are looking for an R50 box conversion kit, ya I have them ready".
So really easy to source parts there from brand-specific massive scrapyards, they`ll ship you also all the bolts you may need.
Also their spare part prices are insanely good compared to continental Europe, like 70% lower. IDK about the USA.
-Get also the gearlever and bowden cables from the donor car & remember to lube them very well. Saves a lot of time, just fit as-is.
-Get the flywheel and clutch kit from Valeo, the single-mass one. It goes with the year and model of donor car, not receiver one. With a bit of ebay-searching you`ll get a great great price on it (again, I love you UK)
-Have a vacuum thing for clutch line purging if you want to do the thing with everything already in place, otherwise the siphon in the circuit makes it a rather annoying operation. Most shop nowadays have one, worth using it.
-Don`t really worry for small bits, you may end up wasting a lot of money on little un-needed parts (if the place where you get the box from is good a lot of little bits/piping/clips/etc will be included anyway) and still being stuck for another small one you didn`t think of in advance. Just plan to keep the car in the shop for 8-10gg so when/if little bits are needed you wait for them to arrive the next day.
Can`t think of anything else right now, hope the above help.
10/10 would do again.
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Congratulations with your successful conversion. I echo your positive experience working with the Brits. They are really a nice bunch. Always very responsive and professional. I contacted two outfits there for an LSD. Both responded promptly and I felt bad for the second one just being a day later, because they were referred by Quarfe. The one I went with had the LSD to me by the third business day - this is from UK to West coast USA.
On your point about buying used assemblies. What trouble me here in USA is ashhole sellers strip off the small parts and sell you just the bare minimum instead of everything that you need. They then get to sell you many other pieces a la carte. R56 cast aluminum rear arm for R53 conversion is one excellent example.
On your point about buying used assemblies. What trouble me here in USA is ashhole sellers strip off the small parts and sell you just the bare minimum instead of everything that you need. They then get to sell you many other pieces a la carte. R56 cast aluminum rear arm for R53 conversion is one excellent example.
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Many of you may have read our trials on swapping in the Getrag 6-speed, and some may have read the pared down article in NAM Alliance... The full tech article was a mere 30ish pages (which, naturally, would have taken up a lot of space... hah!).
Anyway, we've sent out lots of electronic copies - so, rather than have to send it out, we've put it online for all to enjoy and contemplate.
It's the full story, with a parts list, tips and tricks, suggestions, etc.
Enjoy! (someone might wanna make this a sticky?)
Slow connections beware, this is a 3MB file!
http://www.txwerks.com/images/Instal..._Weak_Link.pdf
Anyway, we've sent out lots of electronic copies - so, rather than have to send it out, we've put it online for all to enjoy and contemplate.
It's the full story, with a parts list, tips and tricks, suggestions, etc.
Enjoy! (someone might wanna make this a sticky?)
Slow connections beware, this is a 3MB file!
http://www.txwerks.com/images/Instal..._Weak_Link.pdf
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Hi everyone,
I have a 2004 mini cooper I'm not planning on racing my mini but sometimes I have a heavy right foot. Right now I have a shattered tranny due to running over a large pot hole now I'm leaning toward the 6 speed conversion due to its durability my question is do I need to buy a aftermarket clutch and flywheel to do this swap or I can pretty much use whatever parts that will come out of cooper S. I have about 4k in funds is that sufficient enough to do the swap? I live about 2 minutes from the junkyard here in San Diego CA. Thanks in advance.
I have a 2004 mini cooper I'm not planning on racing my mini but sometimes I have a heavy right foot. Right now I have a shattered tranny due to running over a large pot hole now I'm leaning toward the 6 speed conversion due to its durability my question is do I need to buy a aftermarket clutch and flywheel to do this swap or I can pretty much use whatever parts that will come out of cooper S. I have about 4k in funds is that sufficient enough to do the swap? I live about 2 minutes from the junkyard here in San Diego CA. Thanks in advance.
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Go to www.realoem.com and look for the code of the starter motor in the two different version and you'll find out:-)
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Daryle Hughes (09-02-2019)
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Wrong gearbox, you want a 6-speed from a R53 Cooper S, 2002-2006! It's a bolt-on conversion, no need for plates etc
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WayMotorWorks (03-28-2020)
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Hi all,
I made a swap for Getrag 5 to Getrag 6 on my Mini One from 2006 (MIni One "Seven Edition"). Issues that I have:
1) Slave cylinder from a donor car was broken. I replace it, but did not managed to bleed hydraulic line fully. For now I install salve cylinder in "alternative" way and can drive a car (see pic)
2) Revers gear sensor is different on my R50 and on donor R53, the cable too short as well.
3) Air filter box doesn't fit to gearbox mount, hope to solve this issue with the heated by reforming filter box shape.
Slave bleeding. How much liquid should go out ?
R50 - left, R53 -right
R53 -left, R50 -right
R53 -left, R50 -right
R53 -left, R50 -right
I made a swap for Getrag 5 to Getrag 6 on my Mini One from 2006 (MIni One "Seven Edition"). Issues that I have:
1) Slave cylinder from a donor car was broken. I replace it, but did not managed to bleed hydraulic line fully. For now I install salve cylinder in "alternative" way and can drive a car (see pic)
2) Revers gear sensor is different on my R50 and on donor R53, the cable too short as well.
3) Air filter box doesn't fit to gearbox mount, hope to solve this issue with the heated by reforming filter box shape.
Slave bleeding. How much liquid should go out ?
R50 - left, R53 -right
R53 -left, R50 -right
R53 -left, R50 -right
R53 -left, R50 -right
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i was given a beautful blue 04 mini with a blown midland 5speed and was reading your forum about a 6speed swap is it easy and i see its just a shift linkage is need . iv noticed tons of model s are available at the local pick and pulls will it bolt up useing the old flywheel and clutch im asking because it looks like i can get a trans for a few bucks but a used midland is around 1500 and im on a budget
thankyou dan vootenbeer7@gmail.com
thankyou dan vootenbeer7@gmail.com