Does anyone wave anymore?
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Does anyone wave anymore?
Sorry if this is in the wrong place, but I have been pretty upset about the lack of enthusiasm from fellow MINI owners. When I first had the MINI back in '03, everyone waved back at me and there were a couple people that actually followed me to talk about the cars. My fiance has a Jeep Wrangler and she/I gets a wave everytime we pass another Wrangler, and they're pretty much every other car in my neck of the woods. I barely see any other 1st gens, and the only person who has waved at me was a guy in a r56 on the highway. Most of the MINI's are the larger 4 doors and convertibles, so maybe there aren't as many enthusiasts? Or maybe they don't even know that they're supposed to wave? Does that happen to other OG's or is that just me in my area?
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I'm a waver in my old R52, Ive only had a couple of waves back in the 4 or 5 months Ive had it, and those dont seem to come from the new maxi sized minis:( Maybe waving just isnt a thing for people driving small new crossovers rather than old fun go carts...
Ill admit I dont wave to every mini, sometimes I dont spot them till its too late while also trying to avoid the crappy drivers around me.
Ill admit I dont wave to every mini, sometimes I dont spot them till its too late while also trying to avoid the crappy drivers around me.
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I have only gotten one wave back but a lot of strange looks here in Tucson. This is actually funny as a similar question was poster on a klr forum. Seems like waving is fading as noob's don't know about it and the seasoned folks have given up?
I still wave, either when driving the MINI or on the bike.
I still wave, either when driving the MINI or on the bike.
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I've waved at other apparently, "hot rod" (lowered, aftermarket wheels, etc.) Minis, with nothing back.
I also drive a sport bike. I've waved to and been waved at other types of bike drivers, from cross country style bikes to "real" Harley's (NOT the Hollywood Harley types), to other sport bikes. I've even had "Gang" (showing colors) type Harley guys wave.
Mini drivers...not so much...at least here in SoCal. Kinda goes with the same reception I got at the Bimmer Fest last year. THAT was a big waste of time and money.
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I also drive a sport bike. I've waved to and been waved at other types of bike drivers, from cross country style bikes to "real" Harley's (NOT the Hollywood Harley types), to other sport bikes. I've even had "Gang" (showing colors) type Harley guys wave.
Mini drivers...not so much...at least here in SoCal. Kinda goes with the same reception I got at the Bimmer Fest last year. THAT was a big waste of time and money.
Mike
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I still wave, but rarely get a return wave. Like mentioned above, a lot of folks just don’t seem to have any awareness of what’s going on around them anymore. Usually the modded ones will wave back. Some of us in the “big crossover “ Mini’s do wave! But I see a lot of people not even looking anywhere but straight ahead when driving. A little too focused if you ask me! Lol.... maybe it’s me, ha ha
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I wave most of the time (usually a V sign on whichever hand is on the wheel) but am surprised when I get anything back as it's pretty rare these days. Every once in awhile I will swear off waving altogether, but I invariably get a wave from someone the very next day and get re-energized about it.
I think a lot of people are just zoned out when they're driving and don't see anything. I wave to my neighbors when I see them driving (not MINI drivers) and they never even notice me. It's too bad.
I think a lot of people are just zoned out when they're driving and don't see anything. I wave to my neighbors when I see them driving (not MINI drivers) and they never even notice me. It's too bad.
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Maybe it’s just the “Damn kids these days!” Maybe we’re too old.
Seems like when I do get a return wave it’s usually someone mid-30’s or older. Maybe we are just too old for the cool kids to wave back, while the rest are just zoning out.
My son is planning to buy a Mini after he turns 18 next month, I know he’ll wave, but he’s an oddball like his dad.
chrunck has it right up above too. Not only is the two finger “V” the quickest and easiest to flash, it is from what I’ve read, the classic Mini wave. I think it even says that in my owners manual somewhere.
Seems like when I do get a return wave it’s usually someone mid-30’s or older. Maybe we are just too old for the cool kids to wave back, while the rest are just zoning out.
My son is planning to buy a Mini after he turns 18 next month, I know he’ll wave, but he’s an oddball like his dad.
chrunck has it right up above too. Not only is the two finger “V” the quickest and easiest to flash, it is from what I’ve read, the classic Mini wave. I think it even says that in my owners manual somewhere.
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I wave, a lot. Don't get many returns, but it could be because it's hard to see with my dark window tint. Too many surgeries on my left arm to ride around with my arm hanging out. It's like when I first bought my Corvette. Up until that time it was mostly an enthusiasts car. They were fast, handled great, but it was like climbing in and out of a hole when you got in or out of it. Rode hard as a conestoga wagon too. Then they came out with the C5 and it opened up to a whole new market. As more people bought them just because they were cool and much more comfortable than previous generations, the enthusiast pool was thinned out, much like has happened with the Mini. Most of the new owners could care less about "The Wave". Could have changed again in recent years though. My Vette has been in storage for 10 years now.
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I do all the time, but it seems like the newer MINIs dont wave back as much, when I see another R53 9/10 I get a wave back. R56 about 7/10. If its F56+ about 5/10 times.
Back when I had my 2005 bought at the end of 2004 I got waves from everyone and even non MINI oners as they had never seen a MINI before and would stare at it. LOL
Back when I had my 2005 bought at the end of 2004 I got waves from everyone and even non MINI oners as they had never seen a MINI before and would stare at it. LOL
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"There is an Admin on my local Mini group who I saw on the highway, literally coming onto the highway from an on-ramp, about 4 feet next to him. I waved like and idiot..... he drove right by." Wow that's like removal from the MINI club back in the day.
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I'll agree with a lot that's been said here. I think it comes down to a combination of a disconnection from other road users in general and a shift in the average mini buyer from the days of "only small cars, only standard transmission".
We get less waves returned in the R61 JCW than we did in the R56, but still plenty from people who recognise it for the unicorn that it is. My wife always gives me crap for waving at FIATs while driving the JCW and waving at Minis while driving the Abarth.
I don't care about brand loyalty, in this day and age if you are driving something even remotely interesting and are having fun doing it, I'll give you a wave to acknowledge your status as someone who still gives a damn about cars.
Oh!, and I'll always wave to motorcycles when riding. The other rider commented that the habit of waving simply isn't being taught to newbies, and I think that's true. My wife just took a rider safety/skills course to get her motorcycle endorsement and they apparently didn't even mention waving to your fellow two-wheeled brethren. Sad days.
We get less waves returned in the R61 JCW than we did in the R56, but still plenty from people who recognise it for the unicorn that it is. My wife always gives me crap for waving at FIATs while driving the JCW and waving at Minis while driving the Abarth.
I don't care about brand loyalty, in this day and age if you are driving something even remotely interesting and are having fun doing it, I'll give you a wave to acknowledge your status as someone who still gives a damn about cars.
Oh!, and I'll always wave to motorcycles when riding. The other rider commented that the habit of waving simply isn't being taught to newbies, and I think that's true. My wife just took a rider safety/skills course to get her motorcycle endorsement and they apparently didn't even mention waving to your fellow two-wheeled brethren. Sad days.
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