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mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 12:02 PM

What's wrong with my Mini? Seriously?
 
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My Mini has been for sale for over 3 months...under blue book/Nada. I need to sell it so I can get a CM All4. Which I really don't even want to do, but necessary as my baby's car seat doesn't fit in the back rear facing. But I've barely had a bite. Are R56s still selling? Or are they not as popular anymore due to the new designs (CM, Coupe, etc).

I'm getting disillusioned. :sad:

Looking for feedback, advice, etc.

Thanks in advance!

WeaverNH Jul 8, 2012 01:04 PM

MINI not selling
 
Marketing a car is an elusive art. It may stay as it is for weeks for quite a while before the buyer who wants it and contacts you. Many times it depends on the price you are asking. If it is too little then shoppers think it has probelms. If it is too high then shoppers think you're trying to take advantage of them. You can't ask retail as a private seller. Heck, you can't ask retail as a retailer. It can also depend on where you are advertising. If you have put all your eggs in the Craigslist basket and it is not working then pay a little bit of money and put it on AutoTrader or eBay. Like so many things in sales, if something doesn't work, change it. That can include everything from the venue of advertising to the actual price of the car.
Good Luck.
:thumbsup:

mbu Jul 8, 2012 01:14 PM

I think it's all those oil leaks under your mini shown in the photo! :eek2:....:wink:

Seriously... it'll sell. The mini has a "classical" look, so no matter what year you have, it will always be desirable.

For what it's worth, I would never advertise a car like the mini under blue book. Mini is a car that either you want or don't - but if you want it, you'll pay big for it! Having dealers in the U.S. so far away from each other makes the vehicle a little more in demand for the private sales car market.

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mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 01:18 PM

Thanks WeaverNH for the insight. I've got it on both Craigslist and Autotrader. Admittedly I haven't made any changes to my ads since I initially posted them. I guess it's time to lower the price a little although I thought it was competitively listed.

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by mbu (Post 3545806)
I think it's all those oil leaks under your mini! :eek2:

Seriously... it'll sell. The mini has a "classical" look, so no matter what year you have, it will always be desirable.

For what it's worth, I would never advertise a car like the mini under blue book. Mini is a car that either you want or don't - but if you want it, you'll pay big for it! Having dealers in the U.S. so far away makes the vehicle a little more in demand for the used car market.

MBU, Those aren't oil leaks! Do they really look like oil leaks??? :confused: Yikes! It's water from me having just hand washed the car.

I get a lot of compliments/comments on it so I really thought it would sell quickly with my competitive pricing. But as WeaverNH said, maybe pricing it under blue book makes it look as if something's wrong with it.

mbu Jul 8, 2012 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by mulrey31 (Post 3545811)
MBU, Those aren't oil leaks! Do they really look like oil leaks??? :confused: ..

Just teasing... hence the "seriously".

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by mbu (Post 3545814)
Just teasing... hence the "seriously".

OH! :lol: Sorry, I should have totally picked up on that!

mbu Jul 8, 2012 01:35 PM


... I guess it's time to lower the price a little...
No, raise the price!

Where I live a used car dealer can't keep a mini on their lot. They sell well over blue book and some are in very poor condition!

InTheClub Jul 8, 2012 01:37 PM

Do you have a link to your ad? Maybe someone on here could help with the wording, etc. I'd list it for sale in the NAM marketplace as well.

Good luck! :-)

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by mbu (Post 3545817)
No, raise the price!

Where I live a used car dealer can't keep a mini on their lot. They sell well over blue book and some are in very poor condition!

Wow, that's incredible! Mine is in excellent condition...so I'm feeling encouraged to at the very least keep the price the same. Thanks, MBU!

Blackbomber Jul 8, 2012 01:48 PM

Try eBay classifieds - that's how I sold my TDI (after wasting weeks on Craigslist and newspaper classifieds). I've never sold a car on Autotrader, but every car I tried to buy (four or so) turned out to be a scam.

I'd also consider putting the factory wheels back on, and remove the window film. Where I live, not many cars have film, and it's usually a turn off. Some places, like Florida, are different, and I obviously don't know your area. People that want film know it's between $100-200 to have done, so they don't go looking for cars with it. People who don't want it, would stay away from a car with it, I imagine.

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Blackbomber (Post 3545825)
Try eBay classifieds - that's how I sold my TDI (after wasting weeks on Craigslist and newspaper classifieds). I've never sold a car on Autotrader, but every car I tried to buy (four or so) turned out to be a scam.

I'd also consider putting the factory wheels back on, and remove the window film. Where I live, not many cars have film, and it's usually a turn off. Some places, like Florida, are different, and I obviously don't know your area. People that want film know it's between $100-200 to have done, so they don't go looking for cars with it. People who don't want it, would stay away from a car with it, I imagine.

Blackbomber, I actually wondered about the tint...weather or not it could/would be a deterrent for a possible buyer. I couldn't put the factory wheels back on though because the tread on those tires are rather worn. Ebay is definitely a thought. I sold a Honda Prelude on Ebay years ago...I didn't want to deal with the sellers fees this time around.

mbu Jul 8, 2012 01:57 PM

If you're going to buy a Mini CM for a replacement what did/will the dealer offer you for it on a trade-in?

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 01:58 PM

Link to my ad...advice, critiques welcome:
 

Originally Posted by InTheClub (Post 3545818)
Do you have a link to your ad? Maybe someone on here could help with the wording, etc. I'd list it for sale in the NAM marketplace as well.

Good luck! :-)

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...ngId=316277722

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by mbu (Post 3545832)
If you're going to buy a Mini CM for a replacement what did/will the dealer offer you for it on a trade-in?

They use this Black Book online thing where you put in your car's info and they email you what they'll offer you for your trade...it was insultingly low. IMO. It was lower than kbb/nada's Trade numbers. Then they'd turn around and sell it for about $5K more.

Gizmo Jul 8, 2012 03:09 PM

Instead of "Upgraded sound" I would put Factory installed Harmon and Kardon Premium Sound System"

MCDawg Jul 8, 2012 03:25 PM

Definitely change the 1st picture. The water underneath is bad. Nice looking car. I'd also change your reference to the maintenance. The recommended intervals aren't good enough for a lot of people. I typically look for frequent oil changes <7, 500 miles.

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by JohnW94 (Post 3545864)
Instead of "Upgraded sound" I would put Factory installed Harmon and Kardon Premium Sound System"

Thanks JohnW94! I will change that. :)

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by MCDawg (Post 3545870)
Definitely change the 1st picture. The water underneath is bad. Nice looking car. I'd also change your reference to the maintenance. The recommended intervals aren't good enough for a lot of people. I typically look for frequent oil changes <7, 500 miles.

MCDawg, yeah, ever since MBU joked about the oil leaks, I can see how that could look bad. I'm going to change out those pics with water on the ground.

And I agree about the maintenance.

Thanks so much for your help and the compliment! :)

PJD Jul 8, 2012 04:08 PM

The tint would turn me off but maybe that's because I'm a crotchety New Englander who wouldn't go that dark. That said it may be a draw in your area.

I would take off the peace sticker and mention something about being adult owned and driven. Unless you're really young and that isn't the case. Psychologically that affects me personally.

starman Jul 8, 2012 04:12 PM

eBay seller fees are only $125 for a car in your price range - maybe less and almost the price of the best AutoTrader ad. eBay classifieds are free. FWIW.

Also not sure which book values you are referring to (retail, wholesale, trade in, etc), but places like Carmax are paying $3k under KBB wholesale trade in for most MINIs, again FWIW.

mulrey31 Jul 8, 2012 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by PJD (Post 3545891)
The tint would turn me off but maybe that's because I'm a crotchety New Englander who wouldn't go that dark. That said it may be a draw in your area.

I would take off the peace sticker and mention something about being adult owned and driven. Unless you're really young and that isn't the case. Psychologically that affects me personally.

Ok, I can appreciate that. I'm 35. :wink: I have the peace and Staind decals, but they're vinyl and I just assumed people would know they're easily removed. Better to just alleviate the guessing and assumptions though, right?

Thanks, PJD.

NovaScocean Jul 8, 2012 04:17 PM

Having just purchased a 2010 MC and spent hours looking through online listings, I'd suggest:
          • finally, the peace sign could bother people looking for a more pristine look.
          Oxygen blue is an unusual, lovely color and I wonder if some can't really appreciate its specialness online. I didn't until I saw one in-person.

          Here's another 2008 Autotrader private seller example to consider: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...17381136&Log=0

          Ultimately, purchasing a MC is a very personal decision, and it's hard to know what will be attractive to any specific buyer. Best of luck!

          starman Jul 8, 2012 04:21 PM

          Just saw your ad and the first thing I would do is drop it to $15,900 or even $15,800. I know it's mumbo jumbo but how often do you see car dealers selling something at $16,000? How about never. There is a REASON that people that do this for a living, do that. ;)

          docv Jul 8, 2012 04:45 PM

          There are two things I see that may deter buyers, first it is not an S, second it is an automatic. A 2008 Cooper in my area is only going to bring about 14,500.
          I looked for 4 months before I found what I was looking for at a price I was willing to pay, so there are people looking at it you just haven't found the right one, they will come.
          Just my 2 cents..


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