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Factory jcw clubman stock issues??

Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:21 AM
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Factory jcw clubman stock issues??

I may be picking up a used jcw clubman this weekend, and was just wondering if they suffer from the same stock issues as the S models? It has the extended factory warranty, so I'm not overly concerned, but I just wanted to check so I can keep an ear out for anything that might come up.
Thanks in advance, and I hope to be joining the club soon!
Oh, one more thing, any problem areas I should look out for when doing my initial inspection?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilV89
I may be picking up a used jcw clubman this weekend, and was just wondering if they suffer from the same stock issues as the S models?
Issues... like what specifically have you seen or read?

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It has the extended factory warranty, so I'm not overly concerned, but I just wanted to check so I can keep an ear out for anything that might come up.
How many miles on the JCW Clubman?

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Oh, one more thing, any problem areas I should look out for when doing my initial inspection?
Check oil level, check heat sheild warping (related to heavy abuse)...

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 12:18 PM
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Well, I've read that the S has issues with the HPFP and timing chains due to low oil levels and the hydraulic chain tensioner.
The JCW has 39,400 miles
And thanks for the tips.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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Well, I've read that the S has issues with the HPFP and timing chains due to low oil levels and the hydraulic chain tensioner.
Yep, same stuff.

Kicker is the low oil level and long frequency between oil changes.
That causes oil sludging and therefore can have damaging affects on:
* vacuum pump - bearings are scored and the pump seizes causing the camshaft to lock-up and granading the cylinder head valvetrain
* timing chain tensioner (cold-start rattle) - low oil will reduce tension on the chain, allowing the chain to skip teeth on camshaft sprockets, granading cylinder head
* turbocharger oil feed lines - low oil, and infrequent oil changes will produce engine oil sludging which causes turbo bearings to fail

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 02:55 PM
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bummer. But, it's at least what I was expecting. So the main thing to do is check oil levels often and do more frequent oil changes. I can live with that. I'll have to do more research on the HPFP though. I just know it's an issue, and don't know what the early warning signs are.
I've had a chance to briefly look over the service record of the car, and there has been no mention of changing of the HPFP or any low oil issues. Is the dealership allowed to disclose the full service record of the car, if it's available? There was one mention of a "noisy flywheel" that was on the service record they let me see. Other than that it showed normal interval oil changes.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 03:34 PM
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Is the dealership allowed to disclose the full service record of the car, if it's available?
Sure, grab the VIN and run the dealer records.

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There was one mention of a "noisy flywheel" that was on the service record they let me see. Other than that it showed normal interval oil changes.
What year JCW? There was a manufacturing defect with some of clutch assemblies that were installed by the supplying manufacturer.

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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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I have a 2009 JCW Clubman also with 33k miles. The only issue I have is the bonnet scoop is warped due to turbo heat. Dealer is replacing under warranty and adding a metal heat shield (service bulletin). JCWs eat tires, even when driven easy like mine, so I am on my second set.

Very reliable and fun car to drive!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2012 | 07:33 PM
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Well I picked up my jcw clubman! Oh man what a sweet ride. I can't stop driving it. I find excuses just to get out and drive it.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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Congrats... Let's see some pics!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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Lol. I knew that would come up. I've been driving it so much its filthy! Plus its gonna rain this weekend so no car wash until next week. ill try and grab a few pics from a distance. :-)
 
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by minicoopermike
JCWs eat tires, even when driven easy like mine, so I am on my second set.

Very reliable and fun car to drive!
It shouldn't. The alignment specs are exactly the same as the S.
 
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