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Old 01-11-2018, 04:48 AM
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BMW/MINI door panel Expanding Nut

I recently have had reasons to pull my interior door trims off -- sound deadening, speaker upgrades, and to replace my interior rubber seal (with the felt) because the @$$hole tint installers screwed it up.

In the process, I discovered that removing & reinstalling the door trims, that a certain "expanding nut" (part no. 07147265039) is prone to break and/or become unusable. I have replacements on order from ECS now:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/07147265039/

This nut is for the screw behind the interior door opener. I guess it isn't 100% needed, however, I like having things like this work properly and for the paneling to be snug as the factory meant it to be. I do not muscle the screws out or in, but I have found they seem to be designed to be one- or two-time use only. It really is a PITA. I wonder if BMW/MINI did this as a way to tell if the door trims had been removed? A sort of tamper-evident fastener?

Anyone else run into this?
 
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:07 AM
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I think you just got unlucky in that it broke. I doubt that they decided to make one fastener in the car a tamper-evident fastener because so many people are taking door panels off.
 
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Yeah, it does sound far-fetched, but I am careful with this stuff and two bad out of three is not so good. I'll try to get to the 4th door today and see what happens there.
 
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Well I did the 4th door last night, and I was more careful with this one and it didn't break; so 50/50 for me. What I did differently was: I was slow and methodical when unscrewing keeping the screwdriver straight with no lateral wobble. Same thing when putting it back together. My guess is that I must have torqued it with forward and/or sideways pressure causing the off-white retaining piece to separate from the black holder piece.
 
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Fasteners in just about every car are not engineered with multiple use in mind. The cost would be very high if they made a fastener that was strong enough to hold and be released multiple times... so they are brittle and cheap and break. That said - they are also very cheap to replace. My S2000 uses fasteners in the wheel liners to hold them in place. Each time i have to get to the headlights or something behind there I break em so I just have a bulk size bag full of them and basically replace them each time. Probably go through 3 a season...
 
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Those door clips are always good to have a spare, after having BMWs and MINIs they seem to all snap every once in a while. I just always keep extras or a kit around.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vaico-pa...t/v991010~vaq/


 
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Originally Posted by f60jcw
I recently have had reasons to pull my interior door trims off -- sound deadening, speaker upgrades, and to replace my interior rubber seal (with the felt) because the @$$hole tint installers screwed it up.

In the process, I discovered that removing & reinstalling the door trims, that a certain "expanding nut" (part no. 07147265039) is prone to break and/or become unusable. I have replacements on order from ECS now:

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...t/07147265039/

This nut is for the screw behind the interior door opener. I guess it isn't 100% needed, however, I like having things like this work properly and for the paneling to be snug as the factory meant it to be. I do not muscle the screws out or in, but I have found they seem to be designed to be one- or two-time use only. It really is a PITA. I wonder if BMW/MINI did this as a way to tell if the door trims had been removed? A sort of tamper-evident fastener?

Anyone else run into this?
Yes, on my F56, i had one broken by the dealer them selves! I replaced one. I also bought myself reserve ones. Also some extra doorclips, the break even faster. But they don't cost much at the dealer. So good plan. Get some as reserve!
 
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:38 AM
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Ironically, these parts didn't break so easily on my old D-90 and D-110 Land Rovers!
 
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Originally Posted by ECSTuning
Those door clips are always good to have a spare, after having BMWs and MINIs they seem to all snap every once in a while. I just always keep extras or a kit around.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vaico-pa...t/v991010~vaq/


Man, seeing those E36 plastic window guides in that photo just gave me a flashback. And not in a good way...
 
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