F55/F56 :: Hatch Talk (2014+) MINI Cooper and Cooper S (F55/F56) hatchback discussions.

F55/F56 Software update - new graphics for engine temperature and green mode

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-15-2016, 04:37 PM
hp79's Avatar
hp79
hp79 is offline
4th Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Tigard, OR
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Software update - new graphics for engine temperature and green mode

I had my F56 in for the second year service, plus several other things on the list. One of them was a software update to change the behavior of the remote key fob so that it doesn't accidentally open the trunk while driving.

Picked up my car today and noticed the changes in the UI for the engine temperature and the green mode. See picture.
In green mode, the small circle hovers around more actively.

I like it that it's actually making more use of the the pixels in that tiny display.
I haven't checked the firmware version yet, but will when I find time to code some options again. (full shutdown when opening door, tail lights with day time running lights and stuff)


When attempted coding, it shows firmware version F056-16-03-502 (=2016 March). I couldn't pull anything using psdzdata 2.54.1.
 
Attached Thumbnails Software update - new graphics for engine temperature and green mode-20161115_152146.jpg   Software update - new graphics for engine temperature and green mode-20161115_152314.jpg  

Last edited by hp79; 11-15-2016 at 11:22 PM.
  #2  
Old 11-15-2016, 05:28 PM
S Cal Cruiser's Avatar
S Cal Cruiser
S Cal Cruiser is offline
Neutral
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: S Cal
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Looks good, thanks for sharing !

Ed
 
  #3  
Old 11-16-2016, 06:08 AM
ECSTuning's Avatar
ECSTuning
ECSTuning is online now
Platinum Sponsor
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Wadsworth, Ohio
Posts: 34,808
Received 1,966 Likes on 1,766 Posts
Yea, I saw that on a newer F55 I was driving, easier to read.
 
__________________

MINI Guru/ MINI Owner Since 2004 | NEW Lifetime Part Replacement | Local Pickup
Milltek | Genuine MINI | Forge Motorsport | NM Engineering | ECS Performance | M7 Speed
Customer Service Hours: 8am-8pm EST|Sales Team Hours: 8am-11pm | SAT 10am-7pm 800.924.5172
  #4  
Old 11-16-2016, 07:14 PM
seabrooktx's Avatar
seabrooktx
seabrooktx is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Houston
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Are they supposed to automatically do software updates when you go in for oil change? Do you have to request it?
 
  #5  
Old 11-17-2016, 03:10 AM
MiniF55's Avatar
MiniF55
MiniF55 is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 238
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Got a basic oil change/service. Don't think I got a refresh
 
  #6  
Old 11-17-2016, 04:42 AM
02fanatic's Avatar
02fanatic
02fanatic is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,160
Received 103 Likes on 94 Posts
The dealer should NOT do anything that you "the owner" is not aware of beforehand!
 
  #7  
Old 11-17-2016, 07:55 AM
3rdcoastmini's Avatar
3rdcoastmini
3rdcoastmini is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chicago
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Standard practice at dealer here to update whenever they have it in. Same on my Ford and BMW. I could care less, not like I have any clue what software version it should have.
 
  #8  
Old 11-17-2016, 08:46 AM
TheBigNewt's Avatar
TheBigNewt
TheBigNewt is offline
OVERDRIVE
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 5,603
Received 103 Likes on 82 Posts
Owned Gen 2 Minis for 9 years. Never had software update.
 
  #9  
Old 11-17-2016, 09:00 AM
hp79's Avatar
hp79
hp79 is offline
4th Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Tigard, OR
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I'm not sure but I think implementing the new trunk open behavior involves a complete software update. I was fortunate that the other updates just came along.

The dealer won't just update software on your request because that costs MINI money (each complete update taking 4 hours!! which sounds crazy). As with all other problems, unless the user notice it and complain about it they won't do anything, unless it's a recall. I wish software update was just done through the usb interface so that anyone can get the latest update. It's impossible to completely verify software so there's always going to be an update coming out just like Windows Updates.

I think my F56 (auto + sports package) went through 3 complete updates since Nov 2014, and each brought better behavior and functions. For example, in Mid mode if you kept engine idle stop turned off, then switch to Green mode and came back to Mid mode it'll remember which state it was in. Another thing, with engine on, I think it starts smoother from a stop as I release brake, but this could be my imagination. I remember it used to lurch forward making it impossible to launch slow and smooth. With the latest update, I see the coasting happens less on slower speed. It was annoying before when it would coast all the time, so I think that's another improvement. The graphics I don't care that much but they sure are making more use of it. Green mode miles-saved-counter seems to work better since the last two update I recieved.
 
  #10  
Old 02-14-2017, 02:43 PM
JC Exec's Avatar
JC Exec
JC Exec is offline
1st Gear
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mexico City, Mexico
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by hp79
I had my F56 in for the second year service, plus several other things on the list. One of them was a software update to change the behavior of the remote key fob so that it doesn't accidentally open the trunk while driving.

Picked up my car today and noticed the changes in the UI for the engine temperature and the green mode. See picture.
In green mode, the small circle hovers around more actively.

I like it that it's actually making more use of the the pixels in that tiny display.
I haven't checked the firmware version yet, but will when I find time to code some options again. (full shutdown when opening door, tail lights with day time running lights and stuff)


When attempted coding, it shows firmware version F056-16-03-502 (=2016 March). I couldn't pull anything using psdzdata 2.54.1.

Have you noticed any other improvements as part of this software update? (besides Fob accidental trunk opening, colors on operating temperature and green mode indicators)?
 
  #11  
Old 02-14-2017, 04:13 PM
hp79's Avatar
hp79
hp79 is offline
4th Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Tigard, OR
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by JC Exec
Have you noticed any other improvements as part of this software update? (besides Fob accidental trunk opening, colors on operating temperature and green mode indicators)?
Not really. The Green Mode mile accumulator (counter) actually works now - I never had it reset on its own anymore in between gas fill ups. The counter shows somewhere between 15-25 miles by the time I need a fill up. By the way, I coded the car so that it remembers which mode I had it on (Green-Mid-Sport).

The graphics for engine temperature is also much better as it has more precision. I wish they did something like this for the fuel gauge as the retro looking 8 lights are really ugly.

The graphics for the Green Mode is really intuitive now. Previous design with some stick bars was really hard to tell what it was for.
 
  #12  
Old 02-28-2017, 03:02 PM
MES11's Avatar
MES11
MES11 is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What year is your car? I have a 2015 JCW hardtop and my dealership says there isn't any software updates, but the 2017 Cooper S loaner I got has the update and show the different temp and green mode screens.
 
  #13  
Old 02-28-2017, 03:13 PM
hp79's Avatar
hp79
hp79 is offline
4th Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Tigard, OR
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
2015 F56 base + Automatic + Sports Package, as shown in my signature.

They won't just update it for the updated graphics. I got mine updated because of the change in key fob behavior - workaround for opening the trunk:
SI M51 09 16, SOFTWARE CONVERSION FOR KEY
 
  #14  
Old 02-28-2017, 03:47 PM
MES11's Avatar
MES11
MES11 is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My car's electronics has been buggy since I got it. I didn't want it just for the graphics. I was just hoping the update would do something to improve the car.
 
  #15  
Old 03-01-2017, 04:41 AM
DunkM's Avatar
DunkM
DunkM is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 351
Received 60 Likes on 51 Posts
There was also an update to allow for rev matching in second gear, but I believe that got swapped over in 2015.
 
  #16  
Old 03-02-2017, 02:45 PM
siriuszero's Avatar
siriuszero
siriuszero is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 1,599
Received 40 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by MES11
What year is your car? I have a 2015 JCW hardtop and my dealership says there isn't any software updates, but the 2017 Cooper S loaner I got has the update and show the different temp and green mode screens.
New software comes out almost monthly, so unless you just had an update done, there is definitely new software available. Most dealers won't update "just because" as in addition to taking 3-4 hours in a programming bay, it can sometimes cause more problems than it fixes so they will usually only update if there is a problem on the car. If you do request programming, they can charge you for it though as there is a labor cost involved.

HOWEVER, as OP posted, there is a bulletin that alters the trunk unlocking behavior. It is not a standard behavior, even on newer software and must be requested, but since they cannot change one thing in programming and have to update everything, it's a good excuse to update your software. Best of all, the bulletin states that this change is covered by warranty if your car is still under warranty.

Can't say it will fix your issues, but it doesn't hurt

Have them look the bulletin up: SI M51 09 16
 
  #17  
Old 03-02-2017, 02:56 PM
hp79's Avatar
hp79
hp79 is offline
4th Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Tigard, OR
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I don't think new software (firmware updates) comes out monthly for one model. Maybe for the infotainment system, but for even that I doubt it. Definitely not for the firmware in the rest of the ECUs. It's not like BMW will spend that much money on firmware and software updates, and also these cars are not connected (internet) cars so don't have security updates like Windows or OS X OS.

Definitely a good excuse to get the latest update. If you do get the update, please let us know what version you have.

I have F056-16-03-502 (=2016 March version) when this job was done in 2016 November. If they had monthly updates, I would guess my firmware version would have been much closer to the 2016 November, but that's just my thought.
 
  #18  
Old 03-02-2017, 05:03 PM
siriuszero's Avatar
siriuszero
siriuszero is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 1,599
Received 40 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by hp79
I don't think new software (firmware updates) comes out monthly for one model. Maybe for the infotainment system, but for even that I doubt it. Definitely not for the firmware in the rest of the ECUs. It's not like BMW will spend that much money on firmware and software updates, and also these cars are not connected (internet) cars so don't have security updates like Windows or OS X OS.

Definitely a good excuse to get the latest update. If you do get the update, please let us know what version you have.

I have F056-16-03-502 (=2016 March version) when this job was done in 2016 November. If they had monthly updates, I would guess my firmware version would have been much closer to the 2016 November, but that's just my thought.
Looking into it, you're right, not monthly but it looks like updates are coming typically every March, July, November and the occasional one in-between. Looks like F056-16-11-5xx is the newest with F056-17-03-500 coming soon. My own MINI is on F056-16-07-501
 
  #19  
Old 03-03-2017, 05:56 AM
MES11's Avatar
MES11
MES11 is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There hasn't been any software for the infotainment system for probably a year or more for my car. I don't know about for the ECU. As far as the dealership is concerned I'm up to date. I've asked them on several occasions about updates. How can I check what software version the ECU is?
 
  #20  
Old 03-03-2017, 11:16 AM
siriuszero's Avatar
siriuszero
siriuszero is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 1,599
Received 40 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by MES11
There hasn't been any software for the infotainment system for probably a year or more for my car. I don't know about for the ECU. As far as the dealership is concerned I'm up to date. I've asked them on several occasions about updates. How can I check what software version the ECU is?
You would either need ESYS setup on your computer for coding or service can tell you with a key read. On their systems it even calls out if there is a newer software available or not.
 
  #21  
Old 03-03-2017, 12:39 PM
MES11's Avatar
MES11
MES11 is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 82
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Ok. I'll ask them the version when I go back. I don't have ESYS. Thanks
 
  #22  
Old 03-03-2017, 12:41 PM
hp79's Avatar
hp79
hp79 is offline
4th Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Tigard, OR
Posts: 520
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
I'm pretty sure they will just tell you that "you have the latest version applicable for your specific car". They don't upgrade it unless there is a complaint and a bulletin for the problem. I don't think they even know about the version number unless you ask an actual technician that does firmware updates and stuff.
 
  #23  
Old 03-03-2017, 04:19 PM
siriuszero's Avatar
siriuszero
siriuszero is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Bothell, WA
Posts: 1,599
Received 40 Likes on 31 Posts
True. What I meant was they can check, but will they know how? lol
 
  #24  
Old 05-02-2017, 06:24 AM
r56mook's Avatar
r56mook
r56mook is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Tampa, FL
Posts: 104
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I just got this done last weekend. I told my SA about the bulletin and the issue with the key fob opening the trunk while driving and they did the update no questions asked.
 
  #25  
Old 07-11-2017, 10:21 AM
LormaD's Avatar
LormaD
LormaD is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Montreal, QC Canada
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Took it in for the Once a Year free oil change...

Took my JCW in for the once a year free oil change.... And I got the "ECU" update.

I can't really tell if there is any performance gains, because after leaving the dealership, I saw this at the Gas Station...




Blasted RFT

So I took it back for the Mini Tire Replacement Warranty. And, guess what, they don't have the blasted tires in stock. No worries, the dealer went the full 10 yards for me...

Hooked me up with a loaner from Enterprise, while they ordered the tire.

I asked twice about getting the Graphic style update (while the car was there) as I got the impression there is a ECU update for the computer, and another for graphics.

Since it is there, I want the whole gammit d@mnit LOL...

Cheers,
 



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:01 AM.